Blame CCP. Don't get mad at people for being bored to death with the game but refuse to lose SP cuz there's no SP pool. THE GAME IS BORING, PUB GAMES ARE BORING. There's ZERO reason to play other than pubstomp on 4-5 maps... there's that many? Seems like 3 maps on some days.

For people in the closed beta months before it went open beta, this build has been played to death! There are 2 reasons to play the game as of right now.

1) Skill points

2) ISK

Both you can get while AFK. You mad cuz people don't want to play the game, PUBS, but they are forced to in order to keep up with SP? You really THAT butthurt? How about not taking pub games so seriously, and even better yet, not take this beta build so seriously.

Direct your anger and butthurtery towards CCP, not your fellow gamers who have been playing this stale beta... for months with no new content.

1) Skill points

1) It's basically boosting.

2) You could cost your team a win by taking up a spot that would otherwise be filled by a useful player.

1) It's basically boosting.

2) You could cost your team a win by taking up a spot that would otherwise be filled by a useful player.

Blame CCP. Don't get mad at people for being bored to death with the game but refuse to lose SP cuz there's no SP pool. THE GAME IS BORING, PUB GAMES ARE BORING. There's ZERO reason to play other than pubstomp on 4-5 maps... there's that many? Seems like 3 maps on some days.

For people in the closed beta months before it went open beta, this build has been played to death! There are 2 reasons to play the game as of right now.

1) Skill points

2) ISK

Both you can get while AFK. You mad cuz people don't want to play the game, PUBS, but they are forced to in order to keep up with SP? You really THAT butthurt? How about not taking pub games so seriously, and even better yet, not take this beta build so seriously.

Direct your anger and butthurtery towards CCP, not your fellow gamers who have been playing this stale beta... for months with no new content.

New players will always have less skill points then you unless they grind like crazy, so don't blame CCP for your desire to stay "competitive" or relevant.

Is CCP partially to blame? Yes, but so are AFKers.

Give me a break! I normally I agree with your opinions, but not with this one. It's not a matter of new players, it's a matter of not losing your SP a week cuz CCP hasn't put in a pool for SP yet. If you don't hit your cap every week, that's SP lost never to be seen again.

So I won't be forced to play this dull beta just so I won't lose SP. Not the players fault that CCP doesn't have a pool, or that there hasn't been any new content for months.

So then the Roll over system would stop you from AFKing? That's good to hear. I'm sure there's those would AFK anyway, but then again I don't actually care if people do... CCP should still figure out a way to stop them though.

OH NOOOO YOU LOST A PUB GAME!!!...

Boosting? Not really. It's a mechanic CCP put into the game. 5 sp a second? By standing still and not getting in the way of anyone, or going out of my way to get SP is boosting now?

smh.

New players will always have less skill points then you unless they grind like crazy, so don't blame CCP for your desire to stay "competitive" or relevant.

Is CCP partially to blame? Yes, but so are AFKers.

I would say that new players would never catch up this way, but to be honest, at this rate they probably never will even with active Sp. Still, I feel like there should be some incentive to play and not just leave passive SP turned on, aside from Isk farming.

I had someone who tried out the game yesterday for the first time quit immediately after a Skirmish game where a part of the enemy team was AFKing in the MCC. There were other reasons why this person didn't like the game, but after that match, he said he actually hated the game. I don't expect this player to be back, ever again. That's just an anecdote.

You're not doing the game any favors, only yourself.

You are justifying your egotistical behavior with a really silly argument. Much like someone who steals stuff from a store because the storefront window was already broken with a huge gaping hole, and y'know, your argument is that because the window was obviously broken, you HAD to steal from the store because this was the only way that the store owners would notice that they needed to fix the window.

To you and anybody else who follows suit, you deserve the fair warning that you're making yourselves look incredibly stupid.

correction
*he lost the team the game

the team did nothing wrong
it was the afk player who filled in the spot that would have other wise turned a even game into a loss for one team

I'm egotistical for stating facts?

No, you're egotistical for staying in, clogging up a match's spots for people who are new and actually interested in playing, when you could just as well not be playing.

Then you go on to brag about how long you've been playing the game, complain how boring it is, and use this as a justification for your behavior as if it will magically improve the game, when in reality, it's only adding to its issues and only serves to pad your SP reserves.

Don't kid yourself: it's actually pathetic.

Blame CCP. Don't get mad at people for being bored to death with the game but refuse to lose SP cuz there's no SP pool. THE GAME IS BORING, PUB GAMES ARE BORING. There's ZERO reason to play other than pubstomp on 4-5 maps... there's that many? Seems like 3 maps on some days.

For people in the closed beta months before it went open beta, this build has been played to death! There are 2 reasons to play the game as of right now.

1) Skill points

2) ISK

Both you can get while AFK. You mad cuz people don't want to play the game, PUBS, but they are forced to in order to keep up with SP? You really THAT butthurt? How about not taking pub games so seriously, and even better yet, not take this beta build so seriously.

Direct your anger and butthurtery towards CCP, not your fellow gamers who have been playing this stale beta... for months with no new content.

Not only are AFKers so self absorbed, not realizing the affect other real people playing the game, they don't care when they are told this and . . . their excuse is they want to keep up in a game that is, in their view, behind in production.

Let me break it down for u

currently i dont afk farm i still suffer through my weekly cap but i fully understand why ppl do

1st off pubs are MEANINGLESS in the grand scheme of things
ppl who afk farm are from the prominent corps and the reason they do this is because unlike u these ppl are in actual corps that plan to play FW and especially PC so they need to keep gettin the SP to get their gear up and builds sorted.

When FW and PC drops u'd be dumb goin into those fights with std gear so ppl need the SP

This beta has been at a standstill since October or so. U really expect ppl to NOT be bored to death?
if all ppl cared about was pubs then ppl wouldnt afk farm, they would leave the game and just collect the passive SP and come back when its better and more content added but they cant do that atm when PC and FW will be highly competitive

Each time i join a match (by looking at the scoreboard), i can immediately see which team is going to win...
So, if you're AFK in the winning team you're just evening things out. If you're AFK on the losing team you are just saving your team clones for your teammates to die as much as they want... lol

I'll say it again, in any other game, if you were bored with it, you would not turn it on. Being bored, our burnt out, or calling the main game mode (for those not in elite corps) meaningless. is not an excuse to rob players excited by the game, fresh to the game, and adding new meaning to their playstyle. . . a chance of winning a match, which might surprise you, is more important than whether a particular skill is at level 3 or 4.

You are standing in a parking spot. And don't know why cars are honking at you.

Each time i join a match (by looking at the scoreboard), i can immediately see which team is going to win...
So, if you're AFK in the winning team you're just evening things out. If you're AFK on the losing team you are just saving your team clones for your teammates to die as much as they want... lol

Being AFK is equal to a scrubberry. Only less annoying. - Devil

Dude the matches that made me start that other thread were matches that I told myself looking at starting scoresheet this is going to be a good match or "we got this" The player names and corp names that got me thinking that way are the ones that bailed while still on the battlefield. There is now no way to judge the initial scoresheet because you never know who will actually play.

This doesn't addresss what I said in the post. People are saying they are bored. Really, they are being selfish and inconsiderate. I'd take a scrub meat shield any day over statue character taking a dump in real life.

Each time i join a match (by looking at the scoreboard), i can immediately see which team is going to win...
So, if you're AFK in the winning team you're just evening things out. If you're AFK on the losing team you are just saving your team clones for your teammates to die as much as they want... lol

You would take a player who cost you clones over one who does not?



Please stop.

Yes, even if that player is shooting at the MCC with a blaster like a mad man, as long as never gives up, there is at least the illuision of team spirit. or the idea that one day that guy will improve and bring down the MCC the real way.

A scrub can delay and distract and that is more valuable than 0/0 no show. Yeah, effort matters.

I can smell the BS from here. You would cry your little eyes out because you would be have more MCC but get cloned.

2 or 3 enemies gun down an easy target while laughing. One of their heads explodes thanks to a friendly sniper, another 2 go down to a Shotgun Scout.

We lost one guy who "cost us clones". They lost 3 because he kept their sights off the real threats for just long enough...

Who's more valuable? The suicidal decoy, or the guy in the MCC who doesn't even do THAT job right?

Even if they really screw you over, I'd rather someone ACTIVELY screwing the team because they're so bad than someone who COULD win single-handed but stands in a corner and does nothing instead because "I'm bored, but I still want to be rewarded without participation".

im voting with my wallet , no more AUR for me because of this AFK exploiting issue, in a MMO cheating is a no-go

CCP has stated that it is not cheating themselves and are allowing it. Their word not mine.

that may be true , hope more people will vote with wallets too so the reduced income lets them rethink it

I shall remember this

Blame CCP. Don't get mad at people for being bored to death with the game but refuse to lose SP cuz there's no SP pool. THE GAME IS BORING, PUB GAMES ARE BORING....

Meow. Meow. Meow.

Cry. Cry. Whine. Whine.

Lose SP.

Seriously. You have no RIGHT to skill points. If you cannot bring yourself to play the game, don't.

I frequently choose to not play the game- because I'm tired, bored, busy, and so on. In making that choice, I accept that I may miss out on some SP. I'm sure that I don't have as many skill points as you, and I'm fine with that. I don't require an epeen to enjoy a game. I don't feel like I need to max my in-game skills and rock proto gear to enjoy the game.

I've stated before that I believe AFK farming to be tantamount to macro mining, i.e.- it should be a bannable offense. At the very least, those players who advocate it and openly admit to it should be reset to 0 SP.

no ISK SP gain behind red line is my suggestion

Go to CCP and ask them if they find it good that people are exploiting the hell out of the game, destroying the games purpose (purpose - people to actually play it) , and spreading controversy into the community by splitting it into pro-boosters and anti- boosters , i for myself wont be spending anymore money AUR just because they allow people cheating in a MMO game

Go to CCP and ask them if they find it good that people are exploiting the hell out of the game, destroying the games purpose (purpose - people to actually play it) , and spreading controversy into the community by splitting it into pro-boosters and anti- boosters , i for myself wont be spending anymore money AUR just because they allow people cheating in a MMO game

Well based on all your posts I can honestly say you have no clue what cheating is do you?

Definition of CHEAT
transitive verb
1: to deprive of something valuable by the use of deceit or fraud
2: to influence or lead by deceit, trick, or artifice
3: to elude or thwart by or as if by outwitting
intransitive verb
1a : to practice fraud or trickery b : to violate rules dishonestly
2: to be sexually unfaithful GÇöusually used with on
3: to position oneself defensively near a particular area in anticipation of a play in that area

Last I checked there is no deceit or fraud involved in AFKers getting SP/ISK as this is being gained exactly as stipulated by CCP. The only definition that could be used for this is if you are using the 3rd definition which means that you are upset that AFKers are outwitting you in tactics. If you are using it in this sense then I apologize as you are using it correctly and you may continue to tell all AFKers that they are outwitting you and you are upset about that.

you can find even more excuses for cheating, boosting whatever you want to call it , at the end you are gaining a advantage over people that play legit and hurting the whole dust community , CCP will lose money because of this long term, who would waste the money for active boosters when they can compensate it just by AFK'ing , have fun with the game until it lasts , wont long going in this direction

Blame CCP. Don't get mad at people for being bored to death with the game but refuse to lose SP cuz there's no SP pool. THE GAME IS BORING, PUB GAMES ARE BORING. There's ZERO reason to play other than pubstomp on 4-5 maps... there's that many? Seems like 3 maps on some days.

For people in the closed beta months before it went open beta, this build has been played to death! There are 2 reasons to play the game as of right now.

1) Skill points

2) ISK

Both you can get while AFK. You mad cuz people don't want to play the game, PUBS, but they are forced to in order to keep up with SP? You really THAT butthurt? How about not taking pub games so seriously, and even better yet, not take this beta build so seriously.

Direct your anger and butthurtery towards CCP, not your fellow gamers who have been playing this stale beta... for months with no new content.

The Sp cap goes up 50% with an active. Just sayin'. Maybe you should think before you post. You're obviously not cut out for forum posting, like you're not cut out for playing an EvE game.