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I like the idea of winning SP from a match, guess it's a bad costume from overall gaming. In any case I would increase the SP cap by 50% at least since I usually hit it in 4 days. I haven't played with my main since Saturday and won't be until Wednesday. To solve the AFK problem make a timer that kicks you from match after 5 minutes of being idle/being on MCC.

The problem with this kind of solution is that players will circumvent an idle timer by setting a controller to run in circles, etc.

II think it'd be a good idea to drop the active sp and boost passive by about half of the former active weekly cap.

How about staying in the MCC? Announcer gives some warnings like "GTFO and Fight!", if not you're kicked from the game. The redline still exists and you can simply stay behind cover and AFK. A solution to that is too remove the redline and hopefully a red dot kills you. I feel the redline is important though, so the solution is quite difficult to implement.

I've seen people afking outside the mcc too though. The problem then becomes that the active players are all up at the front lines fighting. The afker is waaay in back, even if they aren't in the mcc. The reds will never get there, and currently the only way to team kill is through an exploit.

I appreciate your dialog, but I still think 100% passive is the better way to go.

Exactly what I was thinking...I agree the removing of active SP would definitely remove AFKing, but at the same time it removes the satisfaction of gaining experience points after a match. I like seeing those numbers lol, especially when they're large.

How about the badges system that BF3 has? Active SP is gained from WP + challenges badges (ie. kill 5 guys in a match = 1000 SP, winning a match = 1000 SP).

That's why there should be challenges that are newbie-friendly, not just from getting killstreaks. Hacking 3 things, reviving 3 people, kill with a grenade, idk...things. Things that reward player action. Newbies will still be left behind by us veterans with an only passive SP gain system. It's the MMO aspect of the game. Creating servers for low SP players is a solution for that, but that goes to another discussion.

I suggest, like Eve, make dust passive SP only. This will completely end afk farming and also end all arguments about skill caps.

Additionally, a totally passive Dust will not impact the ability of new players to compete any more than the current system. Keep in mind, like Eve, once a player has a certain number of sp they can't get "better" they can only diversify.

If CCP should wish to ease the introduction to Dust for new players more than currently, they can simply add additional sp to the new player starting pool.

Switching to passive only sp gain would ensure that players only enter matches in order to play the game modes they like.

This is like repairing one thing by breaking something else. I do not think it's a good idea; the four incentives to win or do well in a match currently are stats, salvage, ISK, and SP. SP is the only one that is clearly linked to your performance in the sense of how many WP you garnered = the more SP you gain. Stats are also very straightforward, but in every other competitive game and thusly not incredibly interesting. The ISK gains and salvage are very non-transparent in how they relate to your participation and performance. The SP are a good motivation to participate.

Now "passive SP only" is not a good solution to combat AFK farming of SP. In fact, it's a fallacy. You can still farm for ISK. People will still be able to sit AFK in the MCC, doing nothing, the latter being the actual issue. This fixes nothing, only takes away one of the incentives to play.

If you want to fix the people from doing nothing and sitting around in an MCC the entire match, make it so nobody can sit in the MCC indefinitely. After 30 seconds up there, you get dropped out right away. Or something like that.

I suggest, like Eve, make dust passive SP only. This will completely end afk farming and also end all arguments about skill caps.

Additionally, a totally passive Dust will not impact the ability of new players to compete any more than the current system. Keep in mind, like Eve, once a player has a certain number of sp they can't get "better" they can only diversify.

If CCP should wish to ease the introduction to Dust for new players more than currently, they can simply add additional sp to the new player starting pool.

Switching to passive only sp gain would ensure that players only enter matches in order to play the game modes they like.

\. The community needs to get off this SP train and onto the ISK train. Eve is all about ISK.

I have been saying this for almost a year. Passive SP is the way to go but the fps/cod mercs feel like they need instant rewards for everything as soon as they do it. It will pass in the next year when everyone has all the core skills leveled and true specialized training begins. These fps/cod mercs will just cry about something else. They do not grasp the idea that there is no end game, no level cap and the only thing that will matter in a years time will be knowledge of game mechanics and experience. They haven't even considered that all the districts will be different. They only know die - respawn - die - respawn and memorize the map. Tactics, team play and working towards a corporate goal or for a cause is foreign to them.

If isk was a meaningful award they could probably do this, and I hope it gets to that point eventually.

Personally, I'm hoping that "matches" as we know them are merely a temporary thing until an open world architecture can be put together. In an open world when would they award SP?

Really I think SP should be awarded only for WP from matches. That way if you AFK you get noooothing. Isk should be rewarded the same.