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N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:21:00 -
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Ok so is there any news of a new Dropship coming in the new build?
I have never used them reason being i hear they kinda suck.
People need a reason to use them other then dropping guys off somewhere.
increase there hit points so there no longer paper thin give the driver something to do other then drive, he should be able to fire some pretty epic missiles.
Not a whining thread just stating some facts. 2 hits from a militia swarm launcher and there gone. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:25:00 -
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Their dropships, transporting troops is their job not close air support. We should be getting fighters and gunships some time post release. and if you're getting 2 hitted by militia swarms you're either using militia dropships which have all the resistance to AV of a sponge to water, or you are fitting them so very wrong you clearly need help. |
N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
169
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:28:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Their dropships, transporting troops is their job not close air support. We should be getting fighters and gunships some time post release. and if you're getting 2 hitted by militia swarms you're either using militia dropships which have all the resistance to AV of a sponge to water, or you are fitting them so very wrong you clearly need help.
Having gunships and fighter jets would be really cool, But to make it fair those vehicles need only 2 seats so you can't go up and stomp the noobs |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:37:00 -
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Gunships two seater= yes, only way I can see them working effectively.
Fighters two seaters= no would work terribly, aircraft would be moving much two fast for the pair to properly coordinate, especially if your not with a dedicated co-pilot your used to pairing up with |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
486
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:41:00 -
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I wouldn't mind seeing fighters with a player whose camera is on the bottom, controlling some kind of bombing/EMP. |
Assi9 Ventox
The Hellspawned
Ronin Oni Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:42:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Their dropships, transporting troops is their job not close air support. We should be getting fighters and gunships some time post release. and if you're getting 2 hitted by militia swarms you're either using militia dropships which have all the resistance to AV of a sponge to water, or you are fitting them so very wrong you clearly need help.
While I agree the militia dropships aren't ideal, I have fit them with some basic (non-militia) gear and had decent results in the 10-12K HP range. My last dropship was able to take about 6 swarm launcher shots before dying. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
821
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:44:00 -
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Assi9 Ventox wrote:gbghg wrote:Their dropships, transporting troops is their job not close air support. We should be getting fighters and gunships some time post release. and if you're getting 2 hitted by militia swarms you're either using militia dropships which have all the resistance to AV of a sponge to water, or you are fitting them so very wrong you clearly need help. While I agree the militia dropships aren't ideal, I have fit them with some basic (non-militia) gear and had decent results in the 10-12K HP range. My last dropship was able to take about 6 swarm launcher shots before dying.
I think you've got the wrong vehicle there... |
N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
169
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:45:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Gunships two seater= yes, only way I can see them working effectively.
Fighters two seaters= no would work terribly, aircraft would be moving much two fast for the pair to properly coordinate, especially if your not with a dedicated co-pilot your used to pairing up with
My idea is that the second seater could just turn and look around and be almost a spotter and could tell you where other things were and stuff. Not really a downfall if you don't have him there but it is a slight advantage if he is there |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:52:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:gbghg wrote:Gunships two seater= yes, only way I can see them working effectively.
Fighters two seaters= no would work terribly, aircraft would be moving much two fast for the pair to properly coordinate, especially if your not with a dedicated co-pilot your used to pairing up with My idea is that the second seater could just turn and look around and be almost a spotter and could tell you where other things were and stuff. Not really a downfall if you don't have him there but it is a slight advantage if he is there
maybe but a guy in your backseat sightseeing is a guy who could be on the ground capping objectives or taking out enemy AV, I just don't really see a need for them to be two seater. I mean how hard would it be for them to mount a camera on the back and sides of the jet so the pilot can scan around him as he needs too. |
N1ck Comeau
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
169
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Posted - 2013.03.25 20:56:00 -
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gbghg wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:gbghg wrote:Gunships two seater= yes, only way I can see them working effectively.
Fighters two seaters= no would work terribly, aircraft would be moving much two fast for the pair to properly coordinate, especially if your not with a dedicated co-pilot your used to pairing up with My idea is that the second seater could just turn and look around and be almost a spotter and could tell you where other things were and stuff. Not really a downfall if you don't have him there but it is a slight advantage if he is there maybe but a guy in your backseat sightseeing is a guy who could be on the ground capping objectives or taking out enemy AV, I just don't really see a need for them to be two seater. I mean how hard would it be for them to mount a camera on the back and sides of the jet so the pilot can scan around him as he needs too.
Very good point, i now think i one seater would be better. |
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Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
261
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Posted - 2013.03.25 21:05:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing fighters with a player whose camera is on the bottom, controlling some kind of bombing/EMP.
I think this is quite a good idea. We already have multi-purpose aircraft, such as the eurofighter, which do both air superiority and bombers. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
1094
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Posted - 2013.03.25 21:09:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Ok so is there any news of a new Dropship coming in the new build?
I have never used them reason being i hear they kinda suck.
People need a reason to use them other then dropping guys off somewhere.
increase there hit points so there no longer paper thin give the driver something to do other then drive, he should be able to fire some pretty epic missiles.
Not a whining thread just stating some facts. 2 hits from a militia swarm launcher and there gone.
Actually, when the game gets patched to allow them to be effectively used as transports there will be many tears shed.
When squad size is buffed to six we will begin to see coordinated groups of five being dropped on an objective all at once. If the objectives are ever spread out more than a casual stroll apart this will matter even more.
At that time players in active corps will embrace the DS while randoms will curse its ability to deploy teamwork. |
Eriknaught
666th Hellraisers
0
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Posted - 2013.03.25 21:30:00 -
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I cannot wait for the time to actually be a troop carrier that people USE. Until then it's just pure fun to fly around buzzing tanks & squashing snipers. As far as AV goes my Myron shrugs off Swarms & Forge's only take me out if I allow myself to get hit multiple times....rare....
Do I get gunner kills? no. Do I successfully drop troops off at objectives? No (tried for the longest time but no one gets the hint......) So I guess I'm content just being that "Crazy pilot doing barrel rolls for no reason," I feel success in the fact that I see half the Red team going AV trying to take me out (easy kills for the ground pounders).
That's my 2 ISK.....
side note: Fighters and Gunships are gonna RULE and together we shall OWN THE SKIES!!!!! Still gonna be driving my bus tho...... |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
79
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Posted - 2013.03.26 13:49:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Assi9 Ventox wrote:gbghg wrote:Their dropships, transporting troops is their job not close air support. We should be getting fighters and gunships some time post release. and if you're getting 2 hitted by militia swarms you're either using militia dropships which have all the resistance to AV of a sponge to water, or you are fitting them so very wrong you clearly need help. While I agree the militia dropships aren't ideal, I have fit them with some basic (non-militia) gear and had decent results in the 10-12K HP range. My last dropship was able to take about 6 swarm launcher shots before dying. I think you've got the wrong vehicle there... My Myron is almost maxed (just need Shield Control 4 and 5) and it's sitting about 4.4K |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
357
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:37:00 -
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It says right in description of dropship it is for providing air support. |
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