What I think should be done is to substantially raise the amount of hp all vehicles have across the board, now before you crucify me like a minmatar heretic hear me out. At the same time there should be really high damage Av that has a highly limited range. In this scenario long range Av would have it's place but only when deployed in groups, however by using the close range Av you can take said tank down the sane tank (both scenarios on paper) in a relatively shirt amount of time solo or at most with 2 total users if said close range Av.

Any thoughts?

*Pulls hammer, nails, and 2x4s*

no, the current AV is good, in comparison to the old style of god-mode tanks that required the entire team to switch to AV to hope to take down a crappy driver.

Close range AV.... What are AV grenades?

Or one well coordinated squad.

That's pretty much what I'm referring to, but at most they do little over a swarm launcher volley

*Pulls hammer, nails, and 2x4s*

no, the current AV is good, in comparison to the old style of god-mode tanks that required the entire team to switch to AV to hope to take down a crappy driver.

still too much. one player should be defeatable by one player, a technical superiority(tank) should be defeated by a tactical superiority(learning to fire from cover and ducking shots)

Close range AV like an AV shotgun???

That would explain all the whining from both sides about the other being op, this way if people want ti take down a Hav in the quickest way (depending in the scenario) they'll have to close the distance ir engage the Hav in a close quarters part if the map.

But technically tanks can hold 3 people so therefor it should take more then one person to destroy it since you have a chance at getting a triple kill plus the 40 wp you get for destroying it.

I have destroyed plenty of tanks with av grenades..... Nanohive and packed av grenades.....

But from what I've seen the main complaint from tanks have been Av having toi much range while some Av people complain that they don't do enough damage, si this way Av players can choose between range and damage and have a noticeable gap in between the damage (I remember Av grenade damage for standards being in the range of 1100-1200 back when the damage was still shown

yeah, lets go engage the thing that kills us in half a second at close range, at close range!

seriously, in the open, vs a blaster tank, you getting within 40 yards and surviving is the sign of a terrible driver with crap gunners.

But from what I've seen the main complaint from tanks have been Av having toi much range while some Av people complain that they don't do enough damage, si this way Av players can choose between range and damage and have a noticeable gap in between the damage (I remember Av grenade damage for standards being in the range of 1100-1200 back when the damage was still shown

One guy can already solo a tank with Av grenades.

That's only in the open, unless they're sniping from the back they won't be impossible to flank and they'd have very little short range defense being sniper fit

my sniping tank(my tanks are refitted militia for cost and skill point purposes) has small blaster turrets fitted for anyone deciding to get up in my face, and I only call it in when I have a squad willing to man the guns.

But technically tanks can hold 3 people so therefor it should take more then one person to destroy it since you have a chance at getting a triple kill plus the 40 wp you get for destroying it.

This would certainly help dropships. And if it helps dropships, count me as for it.

ignoring the top gun that has full mobility. and can watch my back.

Whose watching your right and left then?

its 150 for tanks 75 for dropships and 40 for lavs

My tanks ability to tank shots and leave, any driver who does not have at least 3 escape plans is bad. unless I get 3-5 shots from coordinated forges/swarms/vehicle nades(accounting for skill levels and damage mods) I can simply leave the area and get behind a hill/rock/building have the gunners cover one corner they can come around, use the main to cover the other.

if that much damage happens quickly enough that I could not even mount a defense then I was outmaneuvered. it means I need to get better, not scream that everything else needs a nerf.