DUST Search - Marksman Rifle - Gallente Light Weapon

Negris Albedo wrote:

RINON114 wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Meeko Fent wrote:

I have no problem with the weapons Idea, Just amke it either Minmatar or Caldari. Niether have a general purporse weapon, unless SMG counts, to their name that we know is coming out
Amarr-Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle
Gallente-Assault Rifle
Minmatar-The Sidearm, SMG
Caldari-Nothing

I believe that The Caldari should get this DMR, then the Minmatar should have a LMG

Caldari gauss rifle is coming
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Minmatar have mass driver, which is good for close and mid range.

I think the scrambler or gauss rifle might already occupy this role anyway.

I thought that too but I think eventually all races will have weapons that fulfil all roles with distinct advantages and disadvantages to each. The Gallente military would favour their own manufactured weapons surely, over he Caldari counterpart so maybe we might see an EVE style racial bonus (like the ship weapons bonus).

You mean like Gallente Assault having a bonus to hybrid damage whereas Caldari Assault have a bonus to hybrid range? That would be interesting.

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Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 127	Posted - 2013.03.22 08:33:00 - [1] - Quote The Marksman Rifle is a Gallente weapon developed by CreoDron. Combing accuracy with powerful blaster technology was a difficult and complicated venture, and many who tried gave up on the technology. Some corporations tried to cut their losses by downsizing the mechanics into a more stable version, from which the Gallente Assault Rifle was born. CreoDron did not give up on the idea of combing precision with powerful blaster tech, however. Using state-of-the-art drone AI technology, CreoDron developed an integrated accuracy program that would automatically adjust the the internal mechanisms and scope to cope inherent blaster complexities. The result was the Gallente Marksman Rifle. The Marksman Rifle is basically a Sniper Rifle designed to be used in the heat of battle and not from some isolated hilltop. Due to the nature of the Marksman Rifle, it produces far less scope sway. Scope magnification is also reduced, making it easier to shoot at mid-range targets. The Marksman Rifle deals slightly less damage, but has greater rate of fire and clip size. Unfortunately, blaster tech can only go so far, and the Marksman Rifle suffers damage falloff at exceedingly long ranges. It is for this reason it is called a Marksman Rifle and not a Sniper Rifle. In dense urban environments, the Marksman Rifle performs amicably, but in wide open areas with few areas of cover, the Sniper Rifle performs best. The Marksman Rifle's only similarities to the Tactical Sniper Rifle is it's rate of fire. I say this because I predict that If I didn't say this, people would ignorantly point out that we already have this in the form of the Tactical Sniper Rifle. They are quite different weapons with different goals. Advantages over the Sniper Rifle Increased rate of fire and clip size means missing a target is more forgiving on you. Decreased scope sway and magnification allow the Marksman Rifle to be used at closer ranges. Disadvantages over the Sniper Rifle Damage falloff for the Marksman Rifle means that long-range sniping is best left to the Sniper Rifle. Decreased scope magnification reduces long-range sniping ability. Role of the Marksman Rifle The Marksman Rifle plays a Sniper role in dense urban environments. The Marksman is of tactical (squad) importance whereas the Sniper is of strategic (team) importance. The Marksman has a better chance of surviving direct contact with the enemy. Variants Charge - Charging increases damage and effective range. Charging makes you more Sniper-like. Tactical - Reduced damage but increased rate of fire and range.
Angus McBeanie Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.03.22 10:37:00 - [2] - Quote Could be nicely this, in my eyes it's just an oldschool hunting rifle tho, but they're awesome!
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 600	Posted - 2013.03.22 11:17:00 - [3] - Quote I'd perfer it be Roden shipyards made but that's my only gripe
Terry Webber Gothic Wars Consortium 57	Posted - 2013.03.22 13:48:00 - [4] - Quote Good idea.
Aeon Amadi WarRavens 1115	Posted - 2013.03.22 14:08:00 - [5] - Quote Make it Minmatar design and a Projectile weapon and it makes sense. Never heard of a "mid-range blaster". CreoDron also likes to focus their development on automated usages, the Shotgun being a fluke. Roden Shipyards on the other hand likes to make their designs either missile heavy (wtf) or blaster heavy. Not sure that either of these designers would make a "blaster marksman rifle" as the instability of blaster technology makes it incredibly difficult to manage accuracy. We're talking about firing -anti matter and plasma- as opposed to a kinetic charge of some kind. Of course, there is a kinetic charge in it, but it's going to dissipate in the globs of super-heated plasma. You COULD, however, make this Railgun technology as Gallente do sometimes use them. They just don't specialize in them like the Caldari do.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 601	Posted - 2013.03.22 14:30:00 - [6] - Quote Actually the forge gun is technically considered an electrically charged blaster made by yet another fluke
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 61	Posted - 2013.03.22 18:14:00 - [7] - Quote +1
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 130	Posted - 2013.03.22 20:25:00 - [8] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Make it Minmatar design and a Projectile weapon and it makes sense. Never heard of a "mid-range blaster". Most blasters increase in range the more power you put into the charge. This basically takes a high-powered, long-ranged blaster and compresses it into hand-held form.
Jathniel G I A N T 106	Posted - 2013.03.22 21:44:00 - [9] - Quote lol... +1 OP. I see what you tried to do here. We had something like this a LONG time ago... It was called gasp... The "Tactical Assault Rifle". lol
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 67	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:46:00 - [10] - Quote Jathniel wrote: lol... +1 OP. I see what you tried to do here. We had something like this a LONG time ago... It was called gasp... The "Tactical Assault Rifle". lol Yeah I remember that but now it's garbage. Personally I see this having just a bit more range than the AR at maybe 150m + and not so much a half sniper, half AR. Clip size should be around 10-15 as the power to achieve higher ranges would expend more energy (in the clip). I think my favourite type of weapon in any game is the DMR, especially the one from Halo: Reach so if CCP just rip that off I will be happy.

Meeko Fent Kinsho Swords Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.03.23 03:06:00 - [11] - Quote I have no problem with the weapons Idea, Just amke it either Minmatar or Caldari. Niether have a general purporse weapon, unless SMG counts, to their name that we know is coming out Amarr-Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle Gallente-Assault Rifle Minmatar-The Sidearm, SMG Caldari-Nothing I believe that The Caldari should get this DMR, then the Minmatar should have a LMG
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 152	Posted - 2013.03.23 05:26:00 - [12] - Quote Jathniel wrote: lol... +1 OP. I see what you tried to do here. We had something like this a LONG time ago... It was called gasp... The "Tactical Assault Rifle". lol If the Tactical Assault Rifle was worth a kitten more people would use it. As is... just horrible.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 35	Posted - 2013.03.23 05:54:00 - [13] - Quote XXfootnoteXX wrote: Jathniel wrote: lol... +1 OP. I see what you tried to do here. We had something like this a LONG time ago... It was called gasp... The "Tactical Assault Rifle". lol If the Tactical Assault Rifle was worth a kitten more people would use it. As is... just horrible. yea... it needs more range and damage, not alot just a slight bit more. im thinking 150m without skills and 48 damage for the TAR and buff the rest to the same curb, that or slighly less recoil.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3220	Posted - 2013.03.23 05:57:00 - [14] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: I have no problem with the weapons Idea, Just amke it either Minmatar or Caldari. Niether have a general purporse weapon, unless SMG counts, to their name that we know is coming out Amarr-Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle Gallente-Assault Rifle Minmatar-The Sidearm, SMG Caldari-Nothing I believe that The Caldari should get this DMR, then the Minmatar should have a LMG Caldari gauss rifle is coming https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE1KRDVCQAAtDWt.jpg:large http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8514/8405809671_63327759bd_h.jpg
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 67	Posted - 2013.03.23 08:53:00 - [15] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: I have no problem with the weapons Idea, Just amke it either Minmatar or Caldari. Niether have a general purporse weapon, unless SMG counts, to their name that we know is coming out Amarr-Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle Gallente-Assault Rifle Minmatar-The Sidearm, SMG Caldari-Nothing I believe that The Caldari should get this DMR, then the Minmatar should have a LMG Caldari gauss rifle is coming https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE1KRDVCQAAtDWt.jpg:large http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8514/8405809671_63327759bd_h.jpg Minmatar have mass driver, which is good for close and mid range. I think the scrambler or gauss rifle might already occupy this role anyway. I thought that too but I think eventually all races will have weapons that fulfil all roles with distinct advantages and disadvantages to each. The Gallente military would favour their own manufactured weapons surely, over he Caldari counterpart so maybe we might see an EVE style racial bonus (like the ship weapons bonus).
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 136	Posted - 2013.03.23 15:05:00 - [16] - Quote Jathniel wrote: lol... +1 OP. I see what you tried to do here. We had something like this a LONG time ago... It was called gasp... The "Tactical Assault Rifle". lol The Marksman Rifle is more like a Sniper Rifle than the Tactical Assault Rifle was, but not as much Sniper Rifle as to compete with other Sniper Rifles at long-range.
Negris Albedo Nuevo Atlas Corporation 5	Posted - 2013.03.23 18:20:00 - [17] - Quote RINON114 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: I have no problem with the weapons Idea, Just amke it either Minmatar or Caldari. Niether have a general purporse weapon, unless SMG counts, to their name that we know is coming out Amarr-Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle Gallente-Assault Rifle Minmatar-The Sidearm, SMG Caldari-Nothing I believe that The Caldari should get this DMR, then the Minmatar should have a LMG Caldari gauss rifle is coming https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE1KRDVCQAAtDWt.jpg:large http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8514/8405809671_63327759bd_h.jpg Minmatar have mass driver, which is good for close and mid range. I think the scrambler or gauss rifle might already occupy this role anyway. I thought that too but I think eventually all races will have weapons that fulfil all roles with distinct advantages and disadvantages to each. The Gallente military would favour their own manufactured weapons surely, over he Caldari counterpart so maybe we might see an EVE style racial bonus (like the ship weapons bonus). You mean like Gallente Assault having a bonus to hybrid damage whereas Caldari Assault have a bonus to hybrid range? That would be interesting.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 142	Posted - 2013.03.24 04:45:00 - [18] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: I'd perfer it be Roden shipyards made but that's my only gripe If it wasn't CreoDron, it would probably be Duvolle. Roden generally prefers developing weapon platforms as opposed to the actual weapons, which you can tell just by the name: Roden Shipyards.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 70	Posted - 2013.03.24 08:16:00 - [19] - Quote Negris Albedo wrote: RINON114 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: I have no problem with the weapons Idea, Just amke it either Minmatar or Caldari. Niether have a general purporse weapon, unless SMG counts, to their name that we know is coming out Amarr-Laser Rifle/ Scrambler Rifle Gallente-Assault Rifle Minmatar-The Sidearm, SMG Caldari-Nothing I believe that The Caldari should get this DMR, then the Minmatar should have a LMG Caldari gauss rifle is coming https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE1KRDVCQAAtDWt.jpg:large http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8514/8405809671_63327759bd_h.jpg Minmatar have mass driver, which is good for close and mid range. I think the scrambler or gauss rifle might already occupy this role anyway. I thought that too but I think eventually all races will have weapons that fulfil all roles with distinct advantages and disadvantages to each. The Gallente military would favour their own manufactured weapons surely, over he Caldari counterpart so maybe we might see an EVE style racial bonus (like the ship weapons bonus). You mean like Gallente Assault having a bonus to hybrid damage whereas Caldari Assault have a bonus to hybrid range? That would be interesting. Yep. I can't remember exactly but I think the ships in EVE have these racial benefits already for having certain skills or something. I can't remember it's been years since I played!
Hexen Trickster The Southern Legion 19	Posted - 2013.03.24 15:23:00 - [20] - Quote While not the marksmen rifle there is ment to be a scrambler rifle, a semi-auto mid ranged weapon

Negris Albedo Nuevo Atlas Corporation 5	Posted - 2013.03.27 03:22:00 - [21] - Quote Hexen Trickster wrote: While not the marksmen rifle there is ment to be a scrambler rifle, a semi-auto mid ranged weapon I believe that will be a similar but different sort of weapon, but who knows? It's not out quite yet.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 644	Posted - 2013.03.27 03:24:00 - [22] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I'd perfer it be Roden shipyards made but that's my only gripe If it wasn't CreoDron, it would probably be Duvolle. Roden generally prefers developing weapon platforms as opposed to the actual weapons, which you can tell just by the name: Roden Shipyards. Well in eve, none of them make weapons but roden shipyards made ships are geared towards med to longer range combat
Negris Albedo Nuevo Atlas Corporation 5	Posted - 2013.03.27 03:32:00 - [23] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I'd perfer it be Roden shipyards made but that's my only gripe If it wasn't CreoDron, it would probably be Duvolle. Roden generally prefers developing weapon platforms as opposed to the actual weapons, which you can tell just by the name: Roden Shipyards. Well in eve, none of them make weapons but roden shipyards made ships are geared towards med to longer range combat Ever heard of ArcLite Arms? It's a small arms manufacturer that was acquired by Duvolle Laboratories years ago (YC110), confirmed by EVE lore before Dust 514 was even announced. And CreoDron makes drones, which could be considered weapons. In fact, Duvolle Laboratories has made weapon systems since YC100. Sure, it doesn't release any blueprints designs officially carrying the Duvolle logo, but still, lore confirmed it.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 644	Posted - 2013.03.27 03:36:00 - [24] - Quote Negris Albedo wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I'd perfer it be Roden shipyards made but that's my only gripe If it wasn't CreoDron, it would probably be Duvolle. Roden generally prefers developing weapon platforms as opposed to the actual weapons, which you can tell just by the name: Roden Shipyards. Well in eve, none of them make weapons but roden shipyards made ships are geared towards med to longer range combat Ever heard of ArcLite Arms? It's a small arms manufacturer that was acquired by Duvolle Laboratories years ago (YC110), confirmed by EVE lore before Dust 514 was even announced. And CreoDron makes drones, which could be considered weapons. In fact, Duvolle Laboratories has made weapon systems since YC100. Sure, it doesn't release any blueprints designs officially carrying the Duvolle logo, but still, lore confirmed it. The best example of roden shipyards focusing on range is the fact that the Emyo (roden shipyards frigate) has a unique bonus that out of every gallente ship ot is the only to have an optimal range bonus.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 146	Posted - 2013.03.27 03:50:00 - [25] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Negris Albedo wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I'd perfer it be Roden shipyards made but that's my only gripe If it wasn't CreoDron, it would probably be Duvolle. Roden generally prefers developing weapon platforms as opposed to the actual weapons, which you can tell just by the name: Roden Shipyards. Well in eve, none of them make weapons but roden shipyards made ships are geared towards med to longer range combat Ever heard of ArcLite Arms? It's a small arms manufacturer that was acquired by Duvolle Laboratories years ago (YC110), confirmed by EVE lore before Dust 514 was even announced. And CreoDron makes drones, which could be considered weapons. In fact, Duvolle Laboratories has made weapon systems since YC100. Sure, it doesn't release any blueprints designs officially carrying the Duvolle logo, but still, lore confirmed it. The best example of roden shipyards focusing on range is the fact that the Emyo (roden shipyards frigate) has a unique bonus that out of every gallente ship ot is the only to have an optimal range bonus. *Enyo May I point out that the Ishkur, the Enyo's CreoDron counterpart, has an equally significant optimal range bonus?
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 644	Posted - 2013.03.27 04:00:00 - [26] - Quote Ah how did I forget that, but the ishkur would ideally be using railguns to support it's drones at a range, while the enyo has all of the traits of a brawler except with that conflicting bonus (having both tracking and optimal)
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 166	Posted - 2013.04.02 07:47:00 - [27] - Quote Negris Albedo wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I'd perfer it be Roden shipyards made but that's my only gripe If it wasn't CreoDron, it would probably be Duvolle. Roden generally prefers developing weapon platforms as opposed to the actual weapons, which you can tell just by the name: Roden Shipyards. Well in eve, none of them make weapons but roden shipyards made ships are geared towards med to longer range combat Ever heard of ArcLite Arms? It's a small arms manufacturer that was acquired by Duvolle Laboratories years ago (YC110), confirmed by EVE lore before Dust 514 was even announced. And CreoDron makes drones, which could be considered weapons. In fact, Duvolle Laboratories has made weapon systems since YC100. Sure, it doesn't release any blueprints designs officially carrying the Duvolle logo, but still, lore confirmed it. I love lore. It makes me happy.
Samael Theosi Shining Flame Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.04.02 15:19:00 - [28] - Quote I like the idea. +1
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 242	Posted - 2013.04.15 07:17:00 - [29] - Quote Tap.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 485	Posted - 2013.04.15 10:41:00 - [30] - Quote Hexen Trickster wrote: While not the marksmen rifle there is ment to be a scrambler rifle, a semi-auto mid ranged weapon Wrong. It comes in a full auto and a semi auto variant, like the AR. Confirmed by CCP wolfman on IRC.



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