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Mark Crusader
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Posted - 2013.03.20 21:49:00 -
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LXicon wrote:wouldn't this mean your "alt corp" loses 150 clones? -you are going to run out of alt corps very quickly.
Even if this was an issue, you would only go "through" alt-corps very quickly. You can't "run out" of them. All you would need is one character and less than 2M isk - something that large corps can have plenty of - and creating alt-corps is otherwise limitless.
And as Absolute pointed out, the alt-corp itself can just rinse and repeat by getting donations and never holding territory. |
Mark Crusader
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:02:00 -
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I've heard an idea of 'bidding' for attacks on territories brought up in various forms. What if there was a time window during which a corp could preempt the attack of another (in this case the battle-shielding alt-corp) by committing more clones than they have by a certain margin? With only 200 clones to compete with for an alt-corp with a Genolution pack, an established corp could move in with up to 300~450 clones and bypass the battle-shield.
This solution would possibly make it harder for a new corp to legitimately secure territory, since an established corp could always preempt their attack and not allow them to ever fight... |
Mark Crusader
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:45:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:I had a brief thought in the same vein myself. It can still be used to deny genuine fights though, I'll have a think to bring my words together on how. Initial thought is how the 'fnal' battle where the defender has less than 150 clones and will lose the district if they lose. A fellow corp (say your alliance mates, official or unofficial) could 'outbid' the attackers and force a false battle. Simply pay your mates 15m for the 150 clones they will lose!
But what would prevent that other established allied corp from being preempted by yet another attacker with more clones? The only fully defined situation here is when the allies are shielding the defenders with a maxed bank of 450 clones. This shouldn't be seen as a problem, since these clones were not generated instantly with isk, but were displaced from somewhere else on the map, leaving behind a territory completely abandoned. There is a very real cost to battle-shielding in that manner, and it is something that enemies will be able to exploit. |
Mark Crusader
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.03.20 22:51:00 -
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As for #1, that is an issue that will only exist until until all territory becomes claimed. Any solution that makes the land-grab "fair" may not be worth the effort depending on how long it is expected to take for all territory to be claimed.
The exchange of territory between a main-corp and an alt-corp is already time sensitive and vulnerable to interference. |
Mark Crusader
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.03.21 03:57:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:Your alliance mates simply sent max 450 (or less, if you need to out-bid by a minimum) and they reinforce their original district from their other districts. I'm not saying this can apply in all circumstances, just that it can.
Then the mechanics for reinforcement might need to be reconsidered with some limitations. |
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