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noname warrior
DUST University Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:34:00 -
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I've tried to make this game fun. I've tried to be positive. I've tried to learn from my mistakes.
And I give up.
You've made this game almost impossible for newcomers in this game. I've tried and I've tried and I am tired of being killed over and over.
Delete.
I will do the fun games I have on my system from now on. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
471
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:36:00 -
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Late's. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1003
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:36:00 -
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Your principle will be disappointed in you. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
332
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:37:00 -
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On behalf of Hellstorm, We're sorry for pubstomping
loljk |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
760
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:41:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:On behalf of Hellstorm, We're sorry for pubstomping
loljk sure |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
261
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:45:00 -
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Door knob.. rear end.. bye. |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
56
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:47:00 -
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And so the assholes come out of the woodwork. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
43
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:48:00 -
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Seems like Dust uni is doing a bad job...the date for dropping out with 50% refund of credits has passed. |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
33
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:49:00 -
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Hope your listening CCP... |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
717
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:49:00 -
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noname warrior wrote:I've tried to make this game fun. I've tried to be positive.
And I give up.
Totally understandable.
Take note CCP, going to be alot more of these posts. Especially if you're just "announcing" when the next update is in 1.5 months at fanfest and not actually deploying it.
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Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
448
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:57:00 -
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Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. |
Three Double-A Batteries
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
58
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:58:00 -
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And this player is one several who came to say something, not just delete.
As a F2P you can expect a bit of drop out, but by going beta with only bare bones CCP can't expect much good word of mouth despite their PR spin machine. |
hermin hermit
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:58:00 -
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Won't be long until the only people left are closed beta vets who are desperate to justify the time and money invested into dust |
Three Double-A Batteries
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:04:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. Don't be surprised if this game is ever released proper new player rolls will only put new players only x% behind the average bitter vet and not the huge gap it is now.
Something that CCP has been asked several times since it was apparent the open beta would last forever.
They simply haven't commented on it at all. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries
505
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:05:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. I've done this twice already, it isn't really that hard.
Just run the free fits until you skill up into standard suits and advanced mods and you'll do fine.
Heck, you don't even really need the advanced mods, the standard ones are cheap enough to hold you over until you skill into advanced too. |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
431
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:07:00 -
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hermin hermit wrote:Won't be long until the only people left are closed beta vets who are desperate to justify the time and money invested into dust
Do you see us closed beta vets stroking CCP's epeen? No?
We're some of the loudest complainers. If the game gets terrible we won't be here. |
Spyder Spyra
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
0
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:08:00 -
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Interesting, You need to get your skill up! I started almost 2 weeks after the open Beta started and I am able to hang with all the people that double my SP.
What I find is get other good players in a squad with you it makes a difference on the performance and the ease of the game. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
69
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:09:00 -
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Honestly, with the current features/content, we've tested and reported/discussed just about all there is to at this point. It's pretty much all in the hands of CCP at this point, they know (hopefully) the issues with the game, and there really isn't anything left for us to do until Dust is updated.
So, if you're a vet who's burnt out, I'd suggest taking a break (like me) for a month or so and hopefully there will be something new by them. If not, move on to something else.
If your new and finding it hard, let your passive build up for a while. Hopefully Dust will become more newb friendly in the next build and you can come back then, along with all the returning vets. |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
261
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:11:00 -
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I started in December but I am not a "bitter vet" I just come from the Halo 4 forums and so tired of seeing people crying out about the game as they leave. |
hermin hermit
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:12:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:hermin hermit wrote:Won't be long until the only people left are closed beta vets who are desperate to justify the time and money invested into dust Do you see us closed beta vets stroking CCP's epeen? No? We're some of the loudest complainers. If the game gets terrible we won't be here.
If the game gets terrible? If?...........if? Lol where have you been the last 6 months? |
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Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
448
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:19:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. I've done this twice already, it isn't really that hard. Just run the free fits until you skill up into standard suits and advanced mods and you'll do fine. Heck, you don't even really need the advanced mods, the standard ones are cheap enough to hold you over until you skill into advanced too. I did it with a completely new suit so I wasn't familiar with the heavy suit. I'm a logistics and on the new file I was a heavy so the play style was completely different than what I'm used to.
but then again it was a heavy... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
471
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:30:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. I've done this twice already, it isn't really that hard. Just run the free fits until you skill up into standard suits and advanced mods and you'll do fine. Heck, you don't even really need the advanced mods, the standard ones are cheap enough to hold you over until you skill into advanced too. I did it with a completely new suit so I wasn't familiar with the heavy suit. I'm a logistics and on the new file I was a heavy so the play style was completely different than what I'm used to. but then again it was a heavy... Heavy's easy mode don'tchaknow?
But seriously OP, take Sete's advice. Turn on Passive SP and comeback in a month or 2, hopefully we''ll have better match making by then. |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
319
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:37:00 -
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New players have a hella hard time trying to adjust. Even with good gun game it is difficult. The solution isn't flatlining the gear, it is a proper match making system which should have been in place 6 months ago. A little forethought on ccp 's end would have avoided this calamity. This build has been a long time coming and ....well....I am not getting my hopes up. I wish they'd wow me and prove all the naysayers wrong, but if history is any evidence of the future... |
Magnus the Wolf
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:38:00 -
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It's definitely not for everyone.
I'm currently running the free arbiter scout suit, with either a assault rifle, smg or shotty, all militia grade, only 567k in SP and I have a KDR of 2.17 (no use of sniper rifles so far). Not awesome but its definitely doable if you're smart and run from protos. |
HOMMANDO
Immobile Infantry
46
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:45:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick.
I have an alt with no points invested into weapons or dropsuits and I can do just fine with the default militia fit. |
Magnus the Wolf
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:54:00 -
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HOMMANDO wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. I have an alt with no points invested into weapons or dropsuits and I can do just fine with the default militia fit.
Exactly! Just went 11-3. Just have to play smart |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
474
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:04:00 -
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Magnus the Wolf wrote:HOMMANDO wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. I have an alt with no points invested into weapons or dropsuits and I can do just fine with the default militia fit. Exactly! Just went 11-3. Just have to play smart Playing smart's hard to do when you're new, it's kind of hard to develop tactics when you get killed the instant someone sees you. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
38
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:09:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:New players have a hella hard time trying to adjust. Even with good gun game it is difficult. The solution isn't flatlining the gear, it is a proper match making system which should have been in place 6 months ago. A little forethought on ccp 's end would have avoided this calamity. This build has been a long time coming and ....well....I am not getting my hopes up. I wish they'd wow me and prove all the naysayers wrong, but if history is any evidence of the future...
For pub matches thats fine to say, I guess, but I think the whole point of the game is to get into corps, and begin Faction Warfare and competitive Corp gameplay....if you arent in a real corp then you arent getting the most out of this game.
@ OP you should Run with a corp willing to train you, to watch your back, to help you out with suggestions, even to sponsor you with better gear or ISK while you level up. without that you are just a man on a small planet full to the brim of people who want to kill you with the biggest and scariest guns in existance.....not to mention the million ton warships in orbit....but lets not start with that.
Give dust another try. The beta is a bit clunky, mechanics are screwy, but it IMO is one of the best shooters ive player and up there with MAG for competitive team play. |
Magnus the Wolf
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:15:00 -
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Sloth,
I hear you, but when I say smart I mean less Call of Duty, more Halo. It's all about shield and armor management, not just charging headlong or camping and hoping to gank the other guy first.
I think the problem is most people coming into this approach it from a Call of Duty style. |
Sgt Kirk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
448
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:17:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Magnus the Wolf wrote:HOMMANDO wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. I have an alt with no points invested into weapons or dropsuits and I can do just fine with the default militia fit. Exactly! Just went 11-3. Just have to play smart Playing smart's hard to do when you're new, it's kind of hard to develop tactics when you get killed the instant someone sees you. That's the point I'm trying to get across Jesus ******* Christ thank you Sloth. It's easy if you stick with the assault suit. Going with a heavy suit on the other hand while your team is filled with NPCs and the other team is stacked is a different story. What's a noob to do? he doesn't have battle knowledge, even core FPS skills only get you so far in DUST. This makes me have some respect for the corps that enlist rookies (eugh, yes even PRO). |
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hermin hermit
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:17:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:William HBonney wrote:New players have a hella hard time trying to adjust. Even with good gun game it is difficult. The solution isn't flatlining the gear, it is a proper match making system which should have been in place 6 months ago. A little forethought on ccp 's end would have avoided this calamity. This build has been a long time coming and ....well....I am not getting my hopes up. I wish they'd wow me and prove all the naysayers wrong, but if history is any evidence of the future... For pub matches thats fine to say, I guess, but I think the whole point of the game is to get into corps, and begin Faction Warfare and competitive Corp gameplay....if you arent in a real corp then you arent getting the most out of this game. @ OP you should Run with a corp willing to train you, to watch your back, to help you out with suggestions, even to sponsor you with better gear or ISK while you level up. without that you are just a man on a small planet full to the brim of people who want to kill you with the biggest and scariest guns in existance.....not to mention the million ton warships in orbit....but lets not start with that. Give dust another try. The beta is a bit clunky, mechanics are screwy, but it IMO is one of the best shooters ive player and up there with MAG for competitive team play.
In other words, suck a lot of E-**** so you can shoot at stuff without being insta killed |
Tyrin Tonious
Wraith Shadow Guards
7
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:19:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Magnus the Wolf wrote:HOMMANDO wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick. I have an alt with no points invested into weapons or dropsuits and I can do just fine with the default militia fit. Exactly! Just went 11-3. Just have to play smart Playing smart's hard to do when you're new, it's kind of hard to develop tactics when you get killed the instant someone sees you.
Yeah, it is tough and some players just don't have the patience and/or nerves to deal with dieing while trying to learn how to properly play a new game. I'd say the hardest ones that might have a hard time would be peeps from COD since Dust isn't a run and gun type of game. I don't even though Kill Zone is as Run n Gun as CoD is, lol, I may be wrong though.
All I know is I learned, got through it. Now I know to run from Protos (black suits), and HVY's when within their optimal and to not get pissed by shotties in CQC and those random 1hitkill sniper shots from the charged or the other, which always blows ass. Just laugh it off like I do when I hear that heart wrenching shotgun sound before I drop... lmao.
Just play tactically, don't run up to anyone, not even when they are reloading unless you for sure have confirmation that there isn't backup around the corner, cap bases, and lastly, just laugh it off, it sucks, but no sense getting pissed, we all have our bad nights. One night I blew a lot of TR 3 stuff until I put it to the kitten and switched to my TR1 BPO suits |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
38
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:25:00 -
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hermin hermit wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:William HBonney wrote:New players have a hella hard time trying to adjust. Even with good gun game it is difficult. The solution isn't flatlining the gear, it is a proper match making system which should have been in place 6 months ago. A little forethought on ccp 's end would have avoided this calamity. This build has been a long time coming and ....well....I am not getting my hopes up. I wish they'd wow me and prove all the naysayers wrong, but if history is any evidence of the future... For pub matches thats fine to say, I guess, but I think the whole point of the game is to get into corps, and begin Faction Warfare and competitive Corp gameplay....if you arent in a real corp then you arent getting the most out of this game. @ OP you should Run with a corp willing to train you, to watch your back, to help you out with suggestions, even to sponsor you with better gear or ISK while you level up. without that you are just a man on a small planet full to the brim of people who want to kill you with the biggest and scariest guns in existance.....not to mention the million ton warships in orbit....but lets not start with that. Give dust another try. The beta is a bit clunky, mechanics are screwy, but it IMO is one of the best shooters ive player and up there with MAG for competitive team play. In other words, suck a lot of E-willy so you can shoot at stuff without being insta killed
Cant get anywhere in like with out stroking a bit of c*** |
Bling Blaine
FrontLine-Coalition
4
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:35:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:New players have a hella hard time trying to adjust. Even with good gun game it is difficult. The solution isn't flatlining the gear, it is a proper match making system which should have been in place 6 months ago. A little forethought on ccp 's end would have avoided this calamity. This build has been a long time coming and ....well....I am not getting my hopes up. I wish they'd wow me and prove all the naysayers wrong, but if history is any evidence of the future...
I agree with billy the kid, the matchmaking system would have alleviated alot of new players discouraging defeats, especially with so many vet players having a distinct advantage of map layout and skill dispersion.
Alot of the new players are just too overwhelmed and out gunned at this point in time, hence the more frequent hate threads. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:39:00 -
[35] - Quote
You going to end up coming back if you dont delete your characters,destory the last chains holding you to this game. |
Callidus Vanus
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:42:00 -
[36] - Quote
bye bye |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
445
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:49:00 -
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I've Benn doing a lot of solo play on my alts and can say that the Logi is the one to do if you find yourself lacking in getting WP.
Once you get the first tier of logi with 3 equipment slots, one should not have a problem getting skilled up.
I understand that going logi is a totally different mindset than what players are used to in other FPS games where logi is second fiddle.
This game needs dedicated logis and is probably the best reason for them only having 1 weapon slot (cause your here to heal me idiot!). When playing logi, one should have their repair gun out more then their gun. Stay with the heavys they have no equipment and loads of health, what they need you got.
Tips for being a decent logi: Logi suit just past militia grade Gauged nanohives (gives you 3) Militia injector Militia repair tool Fit the rest of the suit how you want but I suggest a complex damage mod on the high side. And an enhanced armor rep cause who is healing the logi?
Be observant and learn what people do on certain maps and anyone can be a good logi to score in the top of the leader boards.
Funny feeling when your first on a winning team with 6 kills and 1 death (oh ya as a logi learn to run away! You are not assault gtfo of there when faced with a blob!) and around 1500 wp by yourself.
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Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
41
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:01:00 -
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Thought dont neglect to heal other Logi's as well. The more of them that are in the field the more damage your team can potentially do, they are force multipliers after all.
And dont forget your Assault Bros we may be many and you may sometimes over look us rather to pick up a heavy but I would argue a skilled assault trooper can do more for a team than any heavy could.....excepting one with a Boundless..... |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
445
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:09:00 -
[39] - Quote
Ya these were just a couple simple tips that any logi can use and get decent wp thus getting a good amount of sp.
There are tons of ways to make a logi useful and they are truly the versatile class and im sure there are those that can write pages of things that a logi can do besides killing to get to the top of the score board and being a force multiplier.
Those that have witnessed the revive trains that occur in BF3 can see the benefit of the logi, but they also get the repair tool and any other equipment and all different kinds of load outs to be effective.
I find supply depots my best friend as a logi. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
420
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:15:00 -
[40] - Quote
Start of Open Beta, I got 15 people on my friends list to give Dust a try.
Only 3 still play it.
It can't be that hard to make and add a skill point capped playlist can it? Please, Stop letting these newberries play with the rest of us veterans before it's only us left.
With every passing day, no literally every second, the skill gap between a new player and vet increases. |
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Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
445
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:18:00 -
[41] - Quote
IRuby Heart wrote:Start of Open Beta, I got 15 people on my friends list to give Dust a try. Only 3 still play it. It can't be that hard to make and add a skill point capped playlist can it? Please, Stop letting these newberries play with the rest of us veterans before it's only us left.
3 outta 15 is pretty decent I would say. I came from MAG so a good bit trickled in but the ones that are from BF3 and COD ( i havent played COD since the first MW) seem a bit harder to hook. |
Kovak Therim
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
169
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:25:00 -
[42] - Quote
TC, give it a few months and come back. Hopefully this game has begun to look like the vision we all had in our heads of a galactic war set in the EVE universe. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries
505
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:32:00 -
[43] - Quote
Belzeebub Santana wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:Start of Open Beta, I got 15 people on my friends list to give Dust a try. Only 3 still play it. It can't be that hard to make and add a skill point capped playlist can it? Please, Stop letting these newberries play with the rest of us veterans before it's only us left. 3 outta 15 is pretty decent I would say. I came from MAG so a good bit trickled in but the ones that are from BF3 and COD ( i havent played COD since the first MW) seem a bit harder to hook. I'd imagine that it's because of the drastically different TTK between DUST and BF3/CoD.
In CoD, I don't know of a single gun that needs more than seven hits, while in DUST it will usally take well over fifteen at a similar rate of fire (assuming players are using the standard AR of either game), and even then some well tanked proto suits can take a whole magazine. Even when I happen upon some poor militia-fitted blueberry with my enhanced damage mods and HMG the TTK is still longer than what you'd see in BF3 or CoD. In MAG, TTK is a little more diverse (not a whole lot, but it's there) when compared to most other games, so it's not really as big of a transition. |
TODDSTER024
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:44:00 -
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I run with pretty much militia bpo's and i dont really die that often. Ive invested my sp in what think is best for me. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2077
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:51:00 -
[45] - Quote
Part of me feels bad for slaughtering newberries on my team.
Then the other part of me realizes that it is exactly how CCP intended us to play, soooo....DIE NEWBERRIES DIE!!! MUAHAHAHA!!!!! |
SpaceNatz
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2013.03.17 07:52:00 -
[46] - Quote
Well Im not sure if the OP is still around here, but try this: take some weeks off from dust or maybe a month let the passive sp do some work for you and try it again. Yes I know the sp gap will remain but at least you can gather some sp without the frustation of been pub stomped |
hermin hermit
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.03.17 08:07:00 -
[47] - Quote
So new players to dust should play the game by not playing the game for x amount of time? |
Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION
308
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Posted - 2013.03.17 08:16:00 -
[48] - Quote
You can use an assault Type-II and Gek-38 on a brand new character who is speced properly. If you have the skills you can easily take a brand new character to the top of the leaderboard. The problem is not with the system, but rather with how people use the system.
I've spoken to players who were planning to pick up hacking V right away, the game is going to be miserable if you are building up non-priority skills or you don't know what you are doing. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2077
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Posted - 2013.03.17 08:20:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote: If you have the skills you can easily take a brand new character to the top of the leaderboard. .
Firstly, leaderboards are anything but an indication of skill, at least right now.
Secondly, I severely doubt it.
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Rifter7
Improvise.
97
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Posted - 2013.03.17 09:10:00 -
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whatever man being new isn't an excuse. i didn't play in the closed beta and i started a week or two after the game went open when the closed beta guys had a solid month of sp's over me at that point and much more in terms of experience..
seriously. look at how you're dieing and fix it. -are you getting one hit by snipers? you need more hp or awareness. -you're losing to a specific weapon consistently? learn where your weapons strength and its weakness is. -tired of getting pubstomped? find a better corp or htfu and do better alone. -can't win firefights? get better at strafing if you die to fast, headshots if they live to long and picking your fights and running if its a better suit than yours.
i've got less than 4mil sp and under 4k kills and my kdr is pushing 6 and still going back when it started at 2 or less. i run alone with my laser/smg or with a sniper in squad of all things. don't blame the game, blame yourself. there's still way more you can do to get better. |
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Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION
309
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Posted - 2013.03.17 09:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote: If you have the skills you can easily take a brand new character to the top of the leaderboard. . Firstly, leaderboards are anything but an indication of skill, at least right now. Secondly, I severely doubt it.
Being able to aim and knowing the enemy position, and where you need to be to avoid getting surrounded and killed is the big difference maker in this game. I just made a new character a day ago and was at a 4 KDR after 9-10 matches right off the bat as a Gek-38 Type II assault.
This is not an arcade shooter where you can blast your way out of any situation. If you see 3-4 ppl moving to your objective don't be the hero and try and fight them all off by yourself, find a safe out if there is one and take it. I think knowing when to fight and when to run is the most basic key to survival that is so rare to see. Map awareness is by far the biggest handicap players have in my opinion. If you want to do well you need to know where the enemy is pushing, and where their vehicles are. It's all visible before you spawn. If you don't have the skill to stand toe to toe learn the maps and how to flank effectively.
If you don't have the skill to kill a player one on one that is one issue, there are going to be people who have 100-200 more HP than you (or if you made the bad choice of militia 300-400 more HP than you which is nearly impossible 1v1 at that point I agree), and if you can't figure out a way to beat them (superior aim or positioning, get the drop on them, or use explosives and lure them) perhaps the game isn't going to be fun for you. |
hermin hermit
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2013.03.17 09:39:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote: If you have the skills you can easily take a brand new character to the top of the leaderboard. . Firstly, leaderboards are anything but an indication of skill, at least right now. Secondly, I severely doubt it. Being able to aim and knowing the enemy position, and where you need to be to avoid getting surrounded and killed is the big difference maker in this game. I just made a new character a day ago and was at a 4 KDR after 9-10 matches right off the bat as a Gek-38 Type II assault. This is not an arcade shooter where you can blast your way out of any situation. If you see 3-4 ppl moving to your objective don't be the hero and try and fight them all off by yourself, find a safe out if there is one and take it. I think knowing when to fight and when to run is the most basic key to survival that is so rare to see. Map awareness is by far the biggest handicap players have in my opinion. If you want to do well you need to know where the enemy is pushing, and where their vehicles are. It's all visible before you spawn. If you don't have the skill to stand toe to toe learn the maps and how to flank effectively. There are going to be people who have 100-200 more HP than you (or if you made the bad choice of militia 300-400 more HP than you which is nearly impossible 1v1 at that point I agree), and if you can't figure out a way to beat them (superior aim or positioning, get the drop on them, or use explosives and lure them) perhaps the game isn't going to be fun for you.
You are so ******* awesome at dust! Will you carry my child?
Surely new players should be facing off against other new players? Atlleast to begin with, if anybody disagrees i would assume it's because you are a ***** and like playing easy mode. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION
309
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Posted - 2013.03.17 10:07:00 -
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hermin hermit wrote:
You are so ******* awesome at dust! Will you carry my child?
Surely new players should be facing off against other new players? Atlleast to begin with, if anybody disagrees i would assume it's because you are a ***** and like playing easy mode.
Oh condescension I see.
CCP just needs to add SP rewards to Corp matches, and make the matches worth something. Then things will get a lot better for pub players.
I'm just trying to offer some advice to players who seem to be struggling with the game, if you want to think of me as an elitist **** that's your call. |
blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.03.17 10:46:00 -
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the problem is there is nothing to tie up the majority of good players, so we have non stop pub stomps, hopefully this will change with the advent of open faction warfare, and PCT, but well see. |
charlesnette dalari
Creative Killers
175
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Posted - 2013.03.17 11:35:00 -
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hermin hermit wrote:Tectonious Falcon wrote:hermin hermit wrote:Won't be long until the only people left are closed beta vets who are desperate to justify the time and money invested into dust Do you see us closed beta vets stroking CCP's epeen? No? We're some of the loudest complainers. If the game gets terrible we won't be here. If the game gets terrible? If?...........if? Lol where have you been the last 6 months?
if its so bad why are you still here? all i see from you are troll posts about how bad you think the game is and insults to others that like the game. so i ask again why are you still here? are you stupid or perhaps just a troll?
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Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
51
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Posted - 2013.03.17 11:55:00 -
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Giving corps a proper place to play in would stop the pub stomping that's happening right now. *Nudge* *Nudge* Hey CCP, do you hear that? You're losing costumers! |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
66
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Posted - 2013.03.17 12:36:00 -
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I see more than a couple of people in here complaining about how bad the game is after over a year in beta. Yet they are still here, playing the game? That doesn't make much sense. The only reason I play is because I enjoy it. If I didn't, I wouldn't waste my time. You can say things like "well I am waiting for it to get better." no offense, but if you haven't enjoyed the game in a year, chances are you won't enjoy the game a full release. I have found a great group of people to play along side and we all thoroughly enjoy Dust. If you have a complaint, put it in the requests. If there is a glitch, put it in the bugs. I can't count how many times I have seen people ***** and complain about various things they find wrong with the game, and then all of the sudden it becomes some big drawn out deal that wasn't even on the radar before the initial mention. If you don't like it, don't let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya! |
hermin hermit
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:02:00 -
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charlesnette dalari wrote:hermin hermit wrote:Tectonious Falcon wrote:hermin hermit wrote:Won't be long until the only people left are closed beta vets who are desperate to justify the time and money invested into dust Do you see us closed beta vets stroking CCP's epeen? No? We're some of the loudest complainers. If the game gets terrible we won't be here. If the game gets terrible? If?...........if? Lol where have you been the last 6 months? if its so bad why are you still here? all i see from you are troll posts about how bad you think the game is and insults to others that like the game. so i ask again why are you still here? are you stupid or perhaps just a troll? i am betting a little of both
Correct. Mostly trolling with a whiff of stupidity. It's fun, that is why I'm here. Good day, sir.
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Deadly Mitauchi
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
146
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:15:00 -
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noname warrior wrote:I've tried to make this game fun. I've tried to be positive. I've tried to learn from my mistakes.
And I give up.
You've made this game almost impossible for newcomers in this game. I've tried and I've tried and I am tired of being killed over and over.
Delete.
I will do the fun games I have on my system from now on.
Well I would give you a traditional "Can I have your stuff?" but unfortunately CCP hasn't implemented player trading yet! |
Deadly Mitauchi
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
146
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Giving corps a proper place to play in would stop the pub stomping that's happening right now. *Nudge* *Nudge* Hey CCP, do you hear that? You're losing costumers!
Yes your losing customers on your free game!!!
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Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
52
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:24:00 -
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Deadly Mitauchi wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Giving corps a proper place to play in would stop the pub stomping that's happening right now. *Nudge* *Nudge* Hey CCP, do you hear that? You're losing costumers! Yes your losing customers on your free game!!! And at the same time they're losing potential paying costumers ^_^ Plus in an FPS shooter, the people are half the content, if nobody is playing, what's the point of playing? And then it goes to the snowball effect where people hear "well, this game is a ghost town, why should I join/keep playing?". So yeah, even if they lose free people they are still losing. |
Yay Adski
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
152
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:30:00 -
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People still play this? |
neurol forever
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:33:00 -
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noname warrior wrote:I've tried to make this game fun. I've tried to be positive. I've tried to learn from my mistakes.
And I give up.
You've made this game almost impossible for newcomers in this game. I've tried and I've tried and I am tired of being killed over and over.
Delete.
I will do the fun games I have on my system from now on.
First sorry for my english.
In every MP games almost every new player will be bullying from players who play longest time.
I-Śm new/blueberry. Playing this game only one week and i feel better and better ingame. Using only militia frontline items, AR and some ammo and respawn. Sometime i dies too much but not so much like first day in game. This game is not so hard how some people saying and when i kill heavy or destroy tank with militia items i feel very good. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
28
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:41:00 -
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if u destroy tank with milita gear its a milita tank |
neurol forever
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:49:00 -
[65] - Quote
Draxus Prime wrote:if u destroy tank with milita gear its a milita tank
Yes, but he must buy it and that is why i still feel happy. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
118
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:03:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Seriously fellow veterans of DUST. Try making a fresh account and see how difficult it is just to play the game. You will see how insane it is, to make it even worse at least I/we have battle knowledge, the newberries have nothing. Especially when pitted up against a stacked team of corporations while your team is full of NPC corps.
Needless to say I went back to my main real quick.
i made a brand new logi account and had a 6.0 k/d in it running pub matches solo..... Being "knew" isn't as hard as people make it out to be (nor is being a logi for pub matches). Granted i have a lot more experiance with the game then "new" people but knowledge is power and i think if the guy here took some initiative, could have done much better by asking people whats better. Learning from trial by error is fine, nothings wrong with that, but if you do it to the point of quitting the game due to frustration..... it might be time to ask for some help. Lol not everyone here is Thomas Edison.... |
GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
121
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:20:00 -
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The fact that so many people had to suggest to the OP that he take a break and let the passive do the work shows how messed up the current system is.
If the first step in an enjoyable experience with the game is to create an account and then come back a month later, then the system is completely broken.
The biggest problem is that the system is not going to change until at least the next build, and the only thing we know about when that is is that we might get an announcement in 6 weeks.
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BLENDEDDAVE
WARRIORS 1NC
56
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:34:00 -
[68] - Quote
any one who feels like the OP please feel free to apply to warriors 1nc we try to help you out and that you are in a squad with corp m8s . we don't like to see any one leave dust514 |
Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:37:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE wrote:any one who feels like the OP please feel free to apply to warriors 1nc we try to help you out and that you are in a squad with corp m8s . we don't like to see any one leave dust514 It has nothing to do with that. The problem is that the game lacks content, and CCP are frustrating. They're setting the expectations too high and give too little. And they always respond with Soon(TM), which is slowly turning into Never(TM).
Have you seen how people went kitten over a simple cosmetic change for a map? That's what you call content starved. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
422
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:40:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:whatever man being new isn't an excuse. i didn't play in the closed beta and i started a week or two after the game went open when the closed beta guys had a solid month of sp's over me at that point and much more in terms of experience..
seriously. look at how you're dieing and fix it. -are you getting one hit by snipers? you need more hp or awareness. -you're losing to a specific weapon consistently? learn where your weapons strength and its weakness is. -tired of getting pubstomped? find a better corp or htfu and do better alone. -can't win firefights? get better at strafing if you die to fast, headshots if they live to long and picking your fights and running if its a better suit than yours.
i've got less than 4mil sp and under 4k kills and my kdr is pushing 6 and still going back when it started at 2 or less. i run with my laser/smg or with a sniper in squad of all things. don't blame the game, blame yourself. there's still way more you can do to get better.
Completely demerited your post of any significant value. |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
399
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:42:00 -
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Moving this to the locker room. |
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BLENDEDDAVE
WARRIORS 1NC
58
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:BLENDEDDAVE wrote:any one who feels like the OP please feel free to apply to warriors 1nc we try to help you out and that you are in a squad with corp m8s . we don't like to see any one leave dust514 It has nothing to do with that. The problem is that the game lacks content, and CCP are frustrating. They're setting the expectations too high and give too little. And they always respond with Soon(TM), which is slowly turning into Never(TM). Have you seen how people went kitten over a simple cosmetic change for a map? That's what you call content starved.
yes but we live in hope that stuff will get better and it would nice if there was a player base here when/if it does |
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