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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 02:23:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:I pointed out that they did cost isk for the deployer. and that they require squad WP to deploy. so no turrets at the start, and a lot of people have vitas(I do. at least, and according to near a minimum of 3 others are active within one kilometer and have reported in to near at least once)
it works like the orbital call ins from eve to dust, sqaud leader puts out the call, the command user puts the orbital down.
Dust is pay to win. You spend more isk/aurum you stand a better chance than people who don't, statistically. This would just be another form of spending isk and even giving up a player on the ground for potential benefits to your squad.(potential because you have to rely on them to be competent and earn enough WP with one fewer player on the field.)
Did you even read?
Paying isk isn't pay to win it's something everyone has access too.
Aurum isn't either. That's why aurum frees no advantages over regular equipment.
Why should a vita app be given special abilities that not everyone has access too.
We have a deployable screen already when we call in vehicles and orbitals why do you we need a separate one on a handhold that I repeat no one has them. They're like wiiU's atm
The app is better for letting people make fittings, buy and sell stuff and send messages or chat.
this game is free to play. You shouldn't need to spend 200$ to access a special mode that gives you special abilities.
While we're at it make havs and dropships only operable from the vita.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1142
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Posted - 2014.03.31 02:39:00 -
[122] - Quote
Auris Lionesse wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I pointed out that they did cost isk for the deployer. and that they require squad WP to deploy. so no turrets at the start, and a lot of people have vitas(I do. at least, and according to near a minimum of 3 others are active within one kilometer and have reported in to near at least once)
it works like the orbital call ins from eve to dust, sqaud leader puts out the call, the command user puts the orbital down.
Dust is pay to win. You spend more isk/aurum you stand a better chance than people who don't, statistically. This would just be another form of spending isk and even giving up a player on the ground for potential benefits to your squad.(potential because you have to rely on them to be competent and earn enough WP with one fewer player on the field.)
Did you even read? Paying isk isn't pay to win it's something everyone has access too. Aurum isn't either. That's why aurum frees no advantages over regular equipment. Why should a vita app be given special abilities that not everyone has access too. We have a deployable screen already when we call in vehicles and orbitals why do you we need a separate one on a handhold that I repeat no one has them. They're like wiiU's atm The app is better for letting people make fittings, buy and sell stuff and send messages or chat. this game is free to play. You shouldn't need to spend 200$ to access a special mode that gives you special abilities. While we're at it make havs and dropships only operable from the vita.
Because that's stupid. you're taking functionality out of the game. in this way you're adding to it and giving sony a reason to put up with this game.
Right, keep telling me that aurum is no advantage while you pay for your SP and FW point boosts. That is paying for an advantage that is not available to people who do not pay. The very definition of pay to win.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
613
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:04:00 -
[123] - Quote
Heathen Bastard wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I pointed out that they did cost isk for the deployer. and that they require squad WP to deploy. so no turrets at the start, and a lot of people have vitas(I do. at least, and according to near a minimum of 3 others are active within one kilometer and have reported in to near at least once)
it works like the orbital call ins from eve to dust, sqaud leader puts out the call, the command user puts the orbital down.
Dust is pay to win. You spend more isk/aurum you stand a better chance than people who don't, statistically. This would just be another form of spending isk and even giving up a player on the ground for potential benefits to your squad.(potential because you have to rely on them to be competent and earn enough WP with one fewer player on the field.)
Did you even read? Paying isk isn't pay to win it's something everyone has access too. Aurum isn't either. That's why aurum frees no advantages over regular equipment. Why should a vita app be given special abilities that not everyone has access too. We have a deployable screen already when we call in vehicles and orbitals why do you we need a separate one on a handhold that I repeat no one has them. They're like wiiU's atm The app is better for letting people make fittings, buy and sell stuff and send messages or chat. this game is free to play. You shouldn't need to spend 200$ to access a special mode that gives you special abilities. While we're at it make havs and dropships only operable from the vita. Because that's stupid. you're taking functionality out of the game. in this way you're adding to it and giving sony a reason to put up with this game. Right, keep telling me that aurum is no advantage while you pay for your SP and FW point boosts. That is paying for an advantage that is not available to people who do not pay. The very definition of pay to win.
You want to make deployables require a vita how is that not taking functionality out of the game. it's the same thing
And as you already said it's stupid. Just like commander modes.
A small free app on the vita isn't going to make Sony want to support this game any more than it already does.-áWe have 10k players tops.-á
What's wrong with squad leaders calling orbitals now? Why do we need a special mode that only vita users can use? Why should they be allowed to drop crus and supply depots where ever they want when the regular players can't. (which you suggested)
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
254
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:07:00 -
[124] - Quote
Has anyone played Nuclear Dawn? That's closer to what I hope a Commander Role should be.
A dust merc steps into the MCC's control room. If he does a good job the team lets him stay, if he doesn't they can vote to remove him. A Dust Merc leading Dust Mercs who allow him/her to stay in command.
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1142
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:14:00 -
[125] - Quote
Auris Lionesse wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I pointed out that they did cost isk for the deployer. and that they require squad WP to deploy. so no turrets at the start, and a lot of people have vitas(I do. at least, and according to near a minimum of 3 others are active within one kilometer and have reported in to near at least once)
it works like the orbital call ins from eve to dust, sqaud leader puts out the call, the command user puts the orbital down.
Dust is pay to win. You spend more isk/aurum you stand a better chance than people who don't, statistically. This would just be another form of spending isk and even giving up a player on the ground for potential benefits to your squad.(potential because you have to rely on them to be competent and earn enough WP with one fewer player on the field.)
Did you even read? Paying isk isn't pay to win it's something everyone has access too. Aurum isn't either. That's why aurum frees no advantages over regular equipment. Why should a vita app be given special abilities that not everyone has access too. We have a deployable screen already when we call in vehicles and orbitals why do you we need a separate one on a handhold that I repeat no one has them. They're like wiiU's atm The app is better for letting people make fittings, buy and sell stuff and send messages or chat. this game is free to play. You shouldn't need to spend 200$ to access a special mode that gives you special abilities. While we're at it make havs and dropships only operable from the vita. Because that's stupid. you're taking functionality out of the game. in this way you're adding to it and giving sony a reason to put up with this game. Right, keep telling me that aurum is no advantage while you pay for your SP and FW point boosts. That is paying for an advantage that is not available to people who do not pay. The very definition of pay to win. You want to make deployables require a vita how is that not taking functionality out of the game. it's the same thing And as you already said it's stupid. Just like commander modes. A small free app on the vita isn't going to make Sony want to support this game any more than it already does.-áWe have 10k players tops.-á What's wrong with squad leaders calling orbitals now? Why do we need a special mode that only vita users can use? Why should they be allowed to drop crus and supply depots where ever they want when the regular players can't. (which you suggested)
I never said "only" with a vita. Just for the commander slot, basically what CCP wanted to do with the commander suit. and you would never specifically require a vita, it would just be easier than navigating through menus while people try to kill you. And squad leads would still have full control in lieu of commander slot being filled, with a volunteer and vote system. It should be a measure of confidence from the squad.
I also never said anything about cru's or full supply depots( I suggested temporary ones that cost squad WP and isk from the commander's pocket to deploy)
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
619
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:38:00 -
[126] - Quote
Heathen Bastard wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I pointed out that they did cost isk for the deployer. and that they require squad WP to deploy. so no turrets at the start, and a lot of people have vitas(I do. at least, and according to near a minimum of 3 others are active within one kilometer and have reported in to near at least once)
it works like the orbital call ins from eve to dust, sqaud leader puts out the call, the command user puts the orbital down.
Dust is pay to win. You spend more isk/aurum you stand a better chance than people who don't, statistically. This would just be another form of spending isk and even giving up a player on the ground for potential benefits to your squad.(potential because you have to rely on them to be competent and earn enough WP with one fewer player on the field.)
Did you even read? Paying isk isn't pay to win it's something everyone has access too. Aurum isn't either. That's why aurum frees no advantages over regular equipment. Why should a vita app be given special abilities that not everyone has access too. We have a deployable screen already when we call in vehicles and orbitals why do you we need a separate one on a handhold that I repeat no one has them. They're like wiiU's atm The app is better for letting people make fittings, buy and sell stuff and send messages or chat. this game is free to play. You shouldn't need to spend 200$ to access a special mode that gives you special abilities. While we're at it make havs and dropships only operable from the vita. Because that's stupid. you're taking functionality out of the game. in this way you're adding to it and giving sony a reason to put up with this game. Right, keep telling me that aurum is no advantage while you pay for your SP and FW point boosts. That is paying for an advantage that is not available to people who do not pay. The very definition of pay to win. You want to make deployables require a vita how is that not taking functionality out of the game. it's the same thing And as you already said it's stupid. Just like commander modes. A small free app on the vita isn't going to make Sony want to support this game any more than it already does.-áWe have 10k players tops.-á What's wrong with squad leaders calling orbitals now? Why do we need a special mode that only vita users can use? Why should they be allowed to drop crus and supply depots where ever they want when the regular players can't. (which you suggested) I never said "only" with a vita. Just for the commander slot, basically what CCP wanted to do with the commander suit. and you would never specifically require a vita, it would just be easier than navigating through menus while people try to kill you. And squad leads would still have full control in lieu of commander slot being filled, with a volunteer and vote system. It should be a measure of confidence from the squad. I also never said anything about cru's or full supply depots( I suggested temporary ones that cost squad WP and isk from the commander's pocket to deploy)
As long as everyone has equal access to anything commander mode can offer.
So apart from menus there's no actual point to having it on the vita? Or having the mode exist in general.
Let's just fix the ingame deployable menu and axe the mode altogether.
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Heroes in a half Gank!
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Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist
384
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:41:00 -
[127] - Quote
Hey guys, what's going on in here?
Pineapples on pizza.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2500
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:41:00 -
[128] - Quote
So is this a thing that's actually happening?
It is ironic that a Dev assured us that the vita app isn't vapourware...
ak.0 4 LYFE
CCP GIB LANCE TURRET PLOX
LET ME MELEE PEOPLE WITH MY STEED
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1142
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Posted - 2014.03.31 03:44:00 -
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Auris, why are you so against a commander mode? Some people enjoy playing differently. I for one prefer and do better at overwatch/coordinating a defense over simply rushing guys with a shotgun like so many other scouts.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
619
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Posted - 2014.03.31 04:03:00 -
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It just adds a redundant mode into the game.
I shouldn't be able to call in anything that no one else can and they shouldn't be allowed to do the same.
What does a commander mode offer apart from exactly that.
If it doesn't offer that what does it offer that makes it essential to spend resources making it when we have so many broken features already.
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
Heroes in a half Gank!
TURTLE POWER!!!
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
503
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Posted - 2014.03.31 04:11:00 -
[131] - Quote
Really wish there was some Dust content for my mobile!
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1142
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Posted - 2014.03.31 04:33:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:It just adds a redundant mode into the game.
I shouldn't be able to call in anything that no one else can and they shouldn't be allowed to do the same.
What does a commander mode offer apart from exactly that.
If it doesn't offer that what does it offer that makes it essential to spend resources making it when we have so many broken features already.
Dunno. Why do they keep adding suits and guns when the core of the game is so broken?
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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The Robot Devil
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
2227
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Posted - 2014.03.31 04:43:00 -
[133] - Quote
The VITA app is more about mobile MQ stuff than anything else and I would say that any type of commander mode would only be for PC or coordinated FW teams. Pub matches don't need a commander mode, we should be able to call in structures but it should be for any squad whom has the skills, WPs and ISK to do it.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
433
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Posted - 2014.03.31 05:44:00 -
[134] - Quote
id like to be able to use my corp/alliance or public chat channels throught the app as well as a secondary live time map/scoreboard while im actualy playing dust on the ps3 that would be sweet |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
433
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Posted - 2014.03.31 05:46:00 -
[135] - Quote
id like to be able to use my corp/alliance or public chat channels throught the app as well as a secondary live time map/scoreboard while im actualy playing dust on the ps3 that would be sweet |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
433
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Posted - 2014.03.31 05:48:00 -
[136] - Quote
id like to be able to use my corp/alliance or public chat channels throught the app as well as a secondary live time map/scoreboard while im actualy playing dust on the ps3 that would be sweet |
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