DUST Search - vehicle discussion! (i would love to get some devs on)

Halador Osiris wrote:

Arright I'll bite. I believe that dropship health is too low. I fly a shield tanked Myron, so I can't fully comment for an armor tanked pilot. The fit is shown below. After looking at the fit, you'll see this is the best gear you can get. I've got Shield Control 3 (working it up) which, if I recall correctly, puts my tank at about 4390. Aside from the 10% I'll get to my base shield for 2 more levels of Shield Control, this is as high as it gets.

Currently, I run as soon as I either A) see a forge gun; or B) take a forge/rail round. I am perfectly fine with running, except a lot of the time I don't make it out. I've got the ship pitched as far forward as I can and I'm weaving left and right, but sometimes I lose it. I really wish I could hang out in battle and take a few rounds before having to retreat, but for now as soon as I begin taking damage I have to withdraw. Having a bit more health would afford me the opportunity to either decide to stick around a bit and risk my ship, or retreat safely. Either way, the AV have removed me from the battlefield for the meantime which renders me useless. The only difference is that one is temporary.

TL;DR Gunships had better have the PG/CPU for Heavy Azeotropic Shield Extenders

Fit:
2x Azeotropic Shield Extender
1x Clarity Shield Booster
2x Local Power Diagnostic Unit
2x Scattered Ion Blaster

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Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 1	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:26:00 - [1] - Quote Just discusse vehicle stuff like what needs to be balanced and ideas for new vehicles and hopefully we'll get some conversations about it with devs
Beld Errmon UnReaL. 519	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:28:00 - [2] - Quote cause there hasn't been 50+ threadnoughts on the subject over the last 8 months right?
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 496	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:30:00 - [3] - Quote I would like a purple bicycle.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 1	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:33:00 - [4] - Quote @beld i actually have only seen QQ threads since open beta launch so lets change that
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 1	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:34:00 - [5] - Quote @beld i actually have only seen QQ threads since open beta launch so lets change that
Beld Errmon UnReaL. 519	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:41:00 - [6] - Quote Alright well if we are going to have a discussion that isn't about people tearing up about vehicles. I'm looking forward to seeing what CCP has in mind in regards to medium vehicles, I've always loved APCs, atm I tend to throw a CRU on my armor tank so players can spawn and jump out to capture points i'm attacking, although it seems more often than not people spawn in and stay in, missing the point. I picture a 7 seat vehicle with a tank similar to a HAV but with a small or medium turret, and an in built CRU.
Artic Owl Dangerously Designed 0	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:44:00 - [7] - Quote A bike would be good. Use it from grenade or equipment slots. It would be a fast way to travel when they expand the redline.
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 183	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:45:00 - [8] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Just discusse vehicle stuff like what needs to be balanced and ideas for new vehicles and hopefully we'll get some conversations about it with devs really need to have a reason to use drop ships besides this situation: begining of match call it in fly to far objective bail out take it and instant redline other team
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 1	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:46:00 - [9] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Alright well if we are going to have a discussion that isn't about people tearing up about vehicles. I'm looking forward to seeing what CCP has in mind in regards to medium vehicles, I've always loved APCs, atm I tend to throw a CRU on my armor tank so players can spawn and jump out to capture points i'm attacking, although it seems more often than not people spawn in and stay in, missing the point. I picture a 7 seat vehicle with a tank similar to a HAV but with a small or medium turret, and an in built CRU. a small turret slot would also be good
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 1	Posted - 2013.03.11 02:51:00 - [10] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Just discusse vehicle stuff like what needs to be balanced and ideas for new vehicles and hopefully we'll get some conversations about it with devs really need to have a reason to use drop ships besides this situation: begining of match call it in fly to far objective bail out take it and instant redline other team when the maps get bigger they will be vital

FrozenChaos Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned 6	Posted - 2013.03.11 03:00:00 - [11] - Quote oh man I cant wait for those bigger maps
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 1	Posted - 2013.03.11 03:02:00 - [12] - Quote FrozenChaos wrote: oh man I cant wait for those bigger maps thats why im skiiling up for mcru dropship
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 2	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:31:00 - [13] - Quote any more ideas? how about a vehicle module that makes a shield that is impervious to all weopans for 30 sec that cover 15 m radius
Skipper Jones ZionTCD Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2013.03.12 04:09:00 - [14] - Quote A plane of some sort (or maybe even an updated dropship that can shoot down other dropships in a better way) would be pretty slick. Imagine a huge map with infantry below that have planes/dropships fighting in the air.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 104	Posted - 2013.03.12 04:18:00 - [15] - Quote This is not the way yo udraw dev to a thread... You literally asked for a dev to show up to your one-line discussion about vehicles thread? They are drawn to huge discussions ;)
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 4	Posted - 2013.03.12 04:26:00 - [16] - Quote so lets make it huge
Yohan YOSHI Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.25 19:36:00 - [17] - Quote They should have like a "mech suit" or "exo armour" kinda like a robot that has a pilot inside
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 79	Posted - 2013.03.25 19:59:00 - [18] - Quote Arright I'll bite. I believe that dropship health is too low. I fly a shield tanked Myron, so I can't fully comment for an armor tanked pilot. The fit is shown below. After looking at the fit, you'll see this is the best gear you can get. I've got Shield Control 3 (working it up) which, if I recall correctly, puts my tank at about 4390. Aside from the 10% I'll get to my base shield for 2 more levels of Shield Control, this is as high as it gets. Currently, I run as soon as I either A) see a forge gun; or B) take a forge/rail round. I am perfectly fine with running, except a lot of the time I don't make it out. I've got the ship pitched as far forward as I can and I'm weaving left and right, but sometimes I lose it. I really wish I could hang out in battle and take a few rounds before having to retreat, but for now as soon as I begin taking damage I have to withdraw. Having a bit more health would afford me the opportunity to either decide to stick around a bit and risk my ship, or retreat safely. Either way, the AV have removed me from the battlefield for the meantime which renders me useless. The only difference is that one is temporary. TL;DR Gunships had better have the PG/CPU for Heavy Azeotropic Shield Extenders Fit: 2x Azeotropic Shield Extender 1x Clarity Shield Booster 2x Local Power Diagnostic Unit 2x Scattered Ion Blaster
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.03.25 20:08:00 - [19] - Quote Have the ability to chance the default vehicle control option. Seriously, it's ridiculous flying a dropship.
FrozenChaos Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned 6	Posted - 2013.03.25 20:09:00 - [20] - Quote Halador Osiris wrote: Arright I'll bite. I believe that dropship health is too low. I fly a shield tanked Myron, so I can't fully comment for an armor tanked pilot. The fit is shown below. After looking at the fit, you'll see this is the best gear you can get. I've got Shield Control 3 (working it up) which, if I recall correctly, puts my tank at about 4390. Aside from the 10% I'll get to my base shield for 2 more levels of Shield Control, this is as high as it gets. Currently, I run as soon as I either A) see a forge gun; or B) take a forge/rail round. I am perfectly fine with running, except a lot of the time I don't make it out. I've got the ship pitched as far forward as I can and I'm weaving left and right, but sometimes I lose it. I really wish I could hang out in battle and take a few rounds before having to retreat, but for now as soon as I begin taking damage I have to withdraw. Having a bit more health would afford me the opportunity to either decide to stick around a bit and risk my ship, or retreat safely. Either way, the AV have removed me from the battlefield for the meantime which renders me useless. The only difference is that one is temporary. TL;DR Gunships had better have the PG/CPU for Heavy Azeotropic Shield Extenders Fit: 2x Azeotropic Shield Extender 1x Clarity Shield Booster 2x Local Power Diagnostic Unit 2x Scattered Ion Blaster sounds like u need afterburners lol

FrozenChaos Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned 6	Posted - 2013.03.25 20:10:00 - [21] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Have the ability to chance the default vehicle control option. Seriously, it's ridiculous flying a dropship. nah controls are fine they just take some getting used to in the beginning
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 164	Posted - 2013.03.25 20:29:00 - [22] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Alright well if we are going to have a discussion that isn't about people tearing up about vehicles. I'm looking forward to seeing what CCP has in mind in regards to medium vehicles, I've always loved APCs, atm I tend to throw a CRU on my armor tank so players can spawn and jump out to capture points i'm attacking, although it seems more often than not people spawn in and stay in, missing the point. I picture a 7 seat vehicle with a tank similar to a HAV but with a small or medium turret, and an in built CRU. Also they stay in because they control a gun and also you cannot boot them The APC needs to be fast but also be able to withstand alot more than a LAV but slighly less than a tank 1 small turret slot is the way to go, if you want 2 then stick it on the back but you dont want ppl to camp them so we need the boot button but also the option to not have any turrets on any vehicles I see the APC not like a HAV, not as wide and long, just a bit bigger than a LAV in both dimensions, also wheels not tracks Also it should resupply players ammo supply, dropships should also have this feature
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 79	Posted - 2013.03.25 20:47:00 - [23] - Quote FrozenChaos wrote: sounds like u need afterburners lol I'd need to either entirely reskill into gallente gear or lose 700-some odd shield to pull that off.
FrozenChaos Brotherhood ofthe Commissioned 6	Posted - 2013.03.25 21:24:00 - [24] - Quote Halador Osiris wrote: FrozenChaos wrote: sounds like u need afterburners lol I'd need to either entirely reskill into gallente gear or lose 700-some odd shield to pull that off. not really if you have combat engineering maxed then you could make a few variations instead of: 2x Azeotropic Shield Extender 1x Clarity Shield Booster 2x Local Power Diagnostic Unit 2x Scattered Ion Blaster you could try 2x Azeotropic Shield Extender 1x Clarity Shield Booster 1x After burners 1x Local Power Diagnostic Unit 2x rocket turrets blasters require a lot of pg/cpu so if you use rockets it gives you more room for alterations
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 992	Posted - 2013.03.25 21:36:00 - [25] - Quote Afterburners are trash bow, recommending someone put them on their DS shows a basic lack of familiarity with dropships.
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.03.25 21:44:00 - [26] - Quote FrozenChaos wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Have the ability to chance the default vehicle control option. Seriously, it's ridiculous flying a dropship. nah controls are fine they just take some getting used to in the beginning Maybe, admittingly I'm still trying to sort these controls out. It doesn't hurt to add an option to accelerate and decelerate with the unused buttons. I'm tired of having to jump the hell out and wasting 200k+ instead of just parking because the the ship seems to be floating in space.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 153	Posted - 2013.03.25 22:07:00 - [27] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Afterburners are trash bow, recommending someone put them on their DS shows a basic lack of familiarity with dropships. gft
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 4	Posted - 2013.03.25 22:16:00 - [28] - Quote love 'em
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 823	Posted - 2013.03.25 22:22:00 - [29] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Afterburners are trash bow, recommending someone put them on their DS shows a basic lack of familiarity with dropships. They're not as good as they used to be, but they can still help you get out of crap situations, sometimes the extra speed is helpful. and justin you can increase/decrease thrust, they key to landing it to tip your belly up so that thrust is being used to kill your speed, once your speed is low enough you want to come down relatively slowly, too fast and you'll take impact damage.
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 79	Posted - 2013.03.26 15:59:00 - [30] - Quote FrozenChaos wrote: Halador Osiris wrote: FrozenChaos wrote: sounds like u need afterburners lol I'd need to either entirely reskill into gallente gear or lose 700-some odd shield to pull that off. not really if you have combat engineering maxed then you could make a few variations instead of: 2x Azeotropic Shield Extender 1x Clarity Shield Booster 2x Local Power Diagnostic Unit 2x Scattered Ion Blaster you could try 2x Azeotropic Shield Extender 1x Clarity Shield Booster 1x After burners 1x Local Power Diagnostic Unit 1x local power expansion 2x rocket turrets blasters require a lot of pg/cpu so if you use rockets it gives you more room for alterations Have you ever used missile turrets?

Micheal JF IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 4	Posted - 2013.03.26 16:28:00 - [31] - Quote I have to say right now armor is the better DS. Yes the Myron has more acceleration due to less mass but their top speeds feel pretty close. The Grimsnes is more stable due to mass and can tank a lot better as well because of slots You can make a armor DS with ehp of around 5500 easy. They also have a higher PG which suits more towards vehicles. An armor DS can take 3 rounds from a rail turret and still get out of you can fly.


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