you can easily fit 2 heavy extenders or a heavy extender and a heavy booster on a sag I've actually got a fitting that has 2 heavy proto extenders and a heavy booster on it.... don't use it very often just saying it is possible and fairly easy to have more shield even with the damage mods there....

caeli posted in ur other thread
mind if i link ur thread into mine?
seems passive skills are broken and dmg mods just display the wrong value but stack properly

You can link them Mav I want CCP to see these things.

@Ulysses Knapse you are so incorrect it is sad.
Armor are the best anti-infantry. They can actually take a lot more punishment from AV weapons then shield tanks can dream of. And this is showing CCP what happens if they put damage mods to 10%.

You can link them Mav I want CCP to see these things.

@Ulysses Knapse you are so incorrect it is sad.
Armor are the best anti-infantry. They can actually take a lot more punishment from AV weapons then shield tanks can dream of. And this is showing CCP what happens if they put damage mods to 10%.

Me? Incorrect? Blasphemy.
Sure, Armor has a larger buffer, but it is still slower, still takes more damage from swarm launchers, and still has to use modules to repair to any degree. If you try to say I'm incorrect, you must correct me.

not true imho
if u have 2 good swarmers with dmg mods loaded up they gonna punish an armor tank
trust me i have a high defense tank and swarms and av nades the ez mode weapons of AV hurt armor and hurt quick
reps arent gonna rep all the dmg u can take back

its harder for shields to go down cuz they faster and forge gunners who are most dangerous to shields put themselves at alot more risk than lolswarmers

2 good assault FGers can take down a shield pretty easily just as 2 good swarmers can take down an armor tank
overall both tanks are weak imo when it comes to infantry AV

Just curious, but if CCP switches the racial skill on Caldari tanks to a 4% bonus per point in marauder from missiles to railguns, would that help after the damage change? Surya is the clear winner for blaster builds, but I'm curious if the shield tank could get some bonus to railguns too. It makes sense to have different tanks good at different things, instead of making one tank the best at everything.


edited out "mod", because it's not, sry mispoke D:

Just curious, but if CCP switches the racial skill on Caldari tanks to a 4% bonus per point in marauder from missiles to railguns, would that help after the damage change? Surya is the clear winner for blaster builds, but I'm curious if the shield tank could get some bonus to railguns too. It makes sense to have different tanks good at different things, instead of making one tank the best at everything.


edited out "mod", because it's not, sry mispoke D:

Just a quick update from our developers: Tank combat (Tank vs Tank) is getting investigated and worked on for the next update.

Your feedback already proved to be very valuable, but further constructive suggestions and experience feedback would be most welcome.

Thanks for commenting on this thread. :) If the dev staff has any questions about my figures or would like me to try to test something else they are wondering about I am willing to put the effort in to make game play improve overall.

Purely out of curiousity: Have anyone held an 8v8 Corp Tank Battle before?

Asking, since this is definitely one of the ways to get impressions of the feasibility of different builds, as long as both sides agree to some basic rules (let HAVs spawn, at least initially, use varied builds instead of 8 identical ones, etc etc).

not true imho
if u have 2 good swarmers with dmg mods loaded up they gonna punish an armor tank
trust me i have a high defense tank and swarms and av nades the ez mode weapons of AV hurt armor and hurt quick
reps arent gonna rep all the dmg u can take back

its harder for shields to go down cuz they faster and forge gunners who are most dangerous to shields put themselves at alot more risk than lolswarmers

2 good assault FGers can take down a shield pretty easily just as 2 good swarmers can take down an armor tank
overall both tanks are weak imo when it comes to infantry AV

Just a quick update from our developers: Tank combat (Tank vs Tank) is getting investigated and worked on for the next update.

Your feedback already proved to be very valuable, but further constructive suggestions and experience feedback would be most welcome.

They obviously didn't read a damned thing in this thread

Edit: tanking is in the exact situation that was presented here.

shield HAVs are slower then armor HAVs so more "maneuverable" goes to armor HAVs.

Any armor HAV with a single plate for tanking instantly becomes slower than the shield tank, even with the smallest armor plating. Shield HAVs also have enough high slots to spare for a nitrous injector if they so choose (slights their tank a little)

Many people are only seeing the stats here. Tanking is more than just how many shots it will take to destroy another. A shield tanks by nature has to be faster and more manuverable than an armor tank. A shield tank should have the ability to disengage from a fight, depending on the situation.

I think CCP and others should look at World of Tanks or similar MMOs. Whoever wins doesn't always come down to has more tank or more damage. If a guy with a railgun/shield tank is 200m out from an armor/blaster tank, obviously the armor is going down. But what about a shield/railgun vs an armor/railgun?

Well. whenever I use railguns I always use a caldari shield tank. The shield tank allows for me to be faster, and get into a position (Usually above the target) where I can shoot at him, but he can't shoot me. This is how I think shield tanks are supposed to be. Fast, but not a brawler.

Something I notice is that people tend to treat their shield tanks as a brawler, which leads to them complaining on the forum. Now, let's look at EVE. If a guys using a kite fit is playing like a brawler, should CCP rebalance the modules or the guns? No, because they aren't playing to their advantages, which makes it easier for the enemy to take them out.

My glass cannon gunlogi destroies way more tanks than I loose . 2 stacked dammage mods heavy shield repper compresed prototurret and bada boom im not giving away what I put on my other high slots but get inventive witg glass cabnins and youll start destroing everything.

Bring your fit into a high tier PC battle and see how well it does. This game needs to stop being balanced off of pub stats. The balance should come from PC battles

CCP please balance

1) Armor tanks are faster then shield tanks currently.

2) An armor railgun will always beat the brakes off of a shield railgun.

3) In WoT you can bounce a shot, In dust if you hit you automatically do damage. So it does come down to who has more tank if the damage is so miniscule as it is now.

and because the repairer on armor are that better its a clear cut winner for armor.