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ladwar
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Posted - 2013.06.01 09:38:00 -
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EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote:ladwar wrote:shield HAVs are slower then armor HAVs so more "maneuverable" goes to armor HAVs. Any armor HAV with a single plate for tanking instantly becomes slower than the shield tank, even with the smallest armor plating. Shield HAVs also have enough high slots to spare for a nitrous injector if they so choose (slights their tank a little) armor HAV have high slots that are mostly un-used for armor for nitrous injector without losing any tank so saying shield HAV have high slots is like saving a gun has a type of ammo for it. means nothing. armor HAVs have enough low slot for powerplants |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.06.01 15:53:00 -
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Horse Schitt wrote:Many people are only seeing the stats here. Tanking is more than just how many shots it will take to destroy another. A shield tanks by nature has to be faster and more manuverable than an armor tank. A shield tank should have the ability to disengage from a fight, depending on the situation.
I think CCP and others should look at World of Tanks or similar MMOs. Whoever wins doesn't always come down to has more tank or more damage. If a guy with a railgun/shield tank is 200m out from an armor/blaster tank, obviously the armor is going down. But what about a shield/railgun vs an armor/railgun?
Well. whenever I use railguns I always use a caldari shield tank. The shield tank allows for me to be faster, and get into a position (Usually above the target) where I can shoot at him, but he can't shoot me. This is how I think shield tanks are supposed to be. Fast, but not a brawler.
Something I notice is that people tend to treat their shield tanks as a brawler, which leads to them complaining on the forum. Now, let's look at EVE. If a guys using a kite fit is playing like a brawler, should CCP rebalance the modules or the guns? No, because they aren't playing to their advantages, which makes it easier for the enemy to take them out.
1) Armor tanks are faster then shield tanks currently.
2) An armor railgun will always beat the brakes off of a shield railgun.
3) In WoT you can bounce a shot, In dust if you hit you automatically do damage. So it does come down to who has more tank if the damage is so miniscule as it is now. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:05:00 -
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My glass cannon gunlogi destroies way more tanks than I loose . 2 stacked dammage mods heavy shield repper compresed prototurret and bada boom im not giving away what I put on my other high slots but get inventive witg glass cabnins and youll start destroing everything. |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.06.01 19:43:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:My glass cannon gunlogi destroies way more tanks than I loose . 2 stacked dammage mods heavy shield repper compresed prototurret and bada boom im not giving away what I put on my other high slots but get inventive witg glass cabnins and youll start destroing everything.
Bring your fit into a high tier PC battle and see how well it does. This game needs to stop being balanced off of pub stats. The balance should come from PC battles |
pegasis prime
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Posted - 2013.06.01 22:12:00 -
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slap26 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:My glass cannon gunlogi destroies way more tanks than I loose . 2 stacked dammage mods heavy shield repper compresed prototurret and bada boom im not giving away what I put on my other high slots but get inventive witg glass cabnins and youll start destroing everything. Bring your fit into a high tier PC battle and see how well it does. This game needs to stop being balanced off of pub stats. The balance should come from PC battles
Oh dont get me wrong thats soly a pub game tank destroier when iv playd in pc iv followed the rules of balanceing gank and tank and because armour tanks have an exploitable glich that lets them fire down wards through the front of their hull iv lost many gublogis and falcones . So I do know the true pain of shield verses armour balance |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.06.03 15:18:00 -
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CCP please balance |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:41:00 -
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slap26 wrote:CCP please balance ^ |
ladwar
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:42:00 -
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slap26 wrote:Horse Schitt wrote:Many people are only seeing the stats here. Tanking is more than just how many shots it will take to destroy another. A shield tanks by nature has to be faster and more manuverable than an armor tank. A shield tank should have the ability to disengage from a fight, depending on the situation.
I think CCP and others should look at World of Tanks or similar MMOs. Whoever wins doesn't always come down to has more tank or more damage. If a guy with a railgun/shield tank is 200m out from an armor/blaster tank, obviously the armor is going down. But what about a shield/railgun vs an armor/railgun?
Well. whenever I use railguns I always use a caldari shield tank. The shield tank allows for me to be faster, and get into a position (Usually above the target) where I can shoot at him, but he can't shoot me. This is how I think shield tanks are supposed to be. Fast, but not a brawler.
Something I notice is that people tend to treat their shield tanks as a brawler, which leads to them complaining on the forum. Now, let's look at EVE. If a guys using a kite fit is playing like a brawler, should CCP rebalance the modules or the guns? No, because they aren't playing to their advantages, which makes it easier for the enemy to take them out.
1) Armor tanks are faster then shield tanks currently. 2) An armor railgun will always beat the brakes off of a shield railgun. 3) In WoT you can bounce a shot, In dust if you hit you automatically do damage. So it does come down to who has more tank if the damage is so miniscule as it is now. and because the repairer on armor are that better its a clear cut winner for armor. |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:37:00 -
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ladwar wrote:slap26 wrote:Horse Schitt wrote:Many people are only seeing the stats here. Tanking is more than just how many shots it will take to destroy another. A shield tanks by nature has to be faster and more manuverable than an armor tank. A shield tank should have the ability to disengage from a fight, depending on the situation.
I think CCP and others should look at World of Tanks or similar MMOs. Whoever wins doesn't always come down to has more tank or more damage. If a guy with a railgun/shield tank is 200m out from an armor/blaster tank, obviously the armor is going down. But what about a shield/railgun vs an armor/railgun?
Well. whenever I use railguns I always use a caldari shield tank. The shield tank allows for me to be faster, and get into a position (Usually above the target) where I can shoot at him, but he can't shoot me. This is how I think shield tanks are supposed to be. Fast, but not a brawler.
Something I notice is that people tend to treat their shield tanks as a brawler, which leads to them complaining on the forum. Now, let's look at EVE. If a guys using a kite fit is playing like a brawler, should CCP rebalance the modules or the guns? No, because they aren't playing to their advantages, which makes it easier for the enemy to take them out.
1) Armor tanks are faster then shield tanks currently. 2) An armor railgun will always beat the brakes off of a shield railgun. 3) In WoT you can bounce a shot, In dust if you hit you automatically do damage. So it does come down to who has more tank if the damage is so miniscule as it is now. and because the repairer on armor are that better its a clear cut winner for armor.
true the armor repairer is superior to the shield booster. |
slap26
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:38:00 -
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also if you check the ingame stats, armor tanks are faster then shield tanks |
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