DUST Search - (Request) Female vs. Male Heavy Suits.

Kesi Raae Kaae wrote:

Ulysses Knapse wrote:

Kesi Raae Kaae wrote:

The female scouts and assaults don't look like female soldiers clad in armour, they look like photo-shopped models clad in armour.

While this is fine and progressive in the context of gaming in general, it just feels out of place in the context of New Eden. I'm not saying that the way the female mercenaries look is sexist or anything like that, I'm saying their look is inconsistent and jarring.

"Model". They are soldiers, of course they are going to be physically fit. If you mean with gigantic buxom and an unproportionate posterior, I'm going to say I don't really see that.

They don't look physically fit at all, they have nice breasts and huge bums with anorexic limbs and waist, they just look odd, everything is out of proportion. If their limbs and waist were just a bit thicker/more muscular I don't think I would have a problem, they'd look nice and proportional, more soldiery and more consistent with Dust's feel.

I also think the male scout and assault suits look odd and out of proportion, too, but not to the extent that the female suits do and at least they almost look as if a soldier is occupying them.

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Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 484	Posted - 2013.03.09 18:30:00 - [31] - Quote While I _do_ appreciate the need for female players to have in-game avatars that match their... physical... characteristics, do keep in mind that the female inside the heavy suit does not have the same dimensions as... you... The reason why they are considered a 'heavy' is due to the thickness of the armor rather than the flesh.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 102	Posted - 2013.03.09 19:07:00 - [32] - Quote Quarters Minour wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: The Amarr are just sexist, don't worry about it bro. Also, please don't call me bro. I am definitely lacking in the assholishness associated with the male gender. Although I do probably have bigger balls than you do. Why are you attacking me? I never said you were a guy, I just said you were a bro. There's a difference.
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 51	Posted - 2013.03.09 19:20:00 - [33] - Quote The female scouts and assaults don't look like female soldiers clad in armour, they look like photo-shopped models clad in armour. While this is fine and progressive in the context of gaming in general, it just feels out of place in the context of New Eden. I'm not saying that the way the female mercenaries look is sexist or anything like that, I'm saying their look is inconsistent and jarring.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 102	Posted - 2013.03.09 19:59:00 - [34] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: The female scouts and assaults don't look like female soldiers clad in armour, they look like photo-shopped models clad in armour. While this is fine and progressive in the context of gaming in general, it just feels out of place in the context of New Eden. I'm not saying that the way the female mercenaries look is sexist or anything like that, I'm saying their look is inconsistent and jarring. "Model". They are soldiers, of course they are going to be physically fit. If you mean with gigantic buxom and an unproportionate posterior, I'm going to say I don't really see that.
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 51	Posted - 2013.03.09 20:34:00 - [35] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: The female scouts and assaults don't look like female soldiers clad in armour, they look like photo-shopped models clad in armour. While this is fine and progressive in the context of gaming in general, it just feels out of place in the context of New Eden. I'm not saying that the way the female mercenaries look is sexist or anything like that, I'm saying their look is inconsistent and jarring. "Model". They are soldiers, of course they are going to be physically fit. If you mean with gigantic buxom and an unproportionate posterior, I'm going to say I don't really see that. They don't look physically fit at all, they have nice breasts and huge bums with anorexic limbs and waist, they just look odd, everything is out of proportion. I also think the male scout and assault suits look odd and out of proportion, too, but not to the extent that the female suits do and at least they look as if a soldier is occupying them.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 103	Posted - 2013.03.09 22:27:00 - [36] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: The female scouts and assaults don't look like female soldiers clad in armour, they look like photo-shopped models clad in armour. While this is fine and progressive in the context of gaming in general, it just feels out of place in the context of New Eden. I'm not saying that the way the female mercenaries look is sexist or anything like that, I'm saying their look is inconsistent and jarring. "Model". They are soldiers, of course they are going to be physically fit. If you mean with gigantic buxom and an unproportionate posterior, I'm going to say I don't really see that. They don't look physically fit at all, they have nice breasts and huge bums with anorexic limbs and waist, they just look odd, everything is out of proportion. If their limbs and waist were just a bit thicker/more muscular I don't think I would have a problem, they'd look nice and proportional, more soldiery and more consistent with Dust's feel. I also think the male scout and assault suits look odd and out of proportion, too, but not to the extent that the female suits do and at least they almost look as if a soldier is occupying them. Proportion? Please, you act like military women have the figure of a man with slightly larger breasts. Not all women have a 'perfect' soldier proportion. What is a soldier proportion, anyway? If you wanted to be realistic, we should be able to design our character and have all the armor conform to our body perfectly, right? It might be worth noting that when I see a female merc in Dust 514, it takes a while for me to realize they are female, because honestly males and females look very much alike in Dust 514. They are a little skinnier with a larger chest, but other than that, almost identical. The only exception is scout.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 317	Posted - 2013.03.09 22:59:00 - [37] - Quote Obviously, when the military designs armour they totally keep a womans curves in mind. Or not.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 103	Posted - 2013.03.09 23:04:00 - [38] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: Obviously, when the military designs armour they totally keep a womans curves in mind. Or not. At least they are making an effort.
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 321	Posted - 2013.03.09 23:54:00 - [39] - Quote I love that people think Quarters is trolling but i can assure you she is serious. Every time in the warbarge we hear her saying that she wants some damn ******* as a heavy and i agree.
Shmoofy Stuff Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.03.10 00:32:00 - [40] - Quote Why don't you get over it? How does this matter at all, don't waste CCP' time with this nonsense. Fruitless, pointless, and meaningless

Principus Shmoof Triariian Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 00:38:00 - [41] - Quote Why don't you get over it? How does this matter at all, don't waste CCP' time with this nonsense. Fruitless, pointless, and meaningless
Dont-hit-O-im-coming-to revive-you L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 0	Posted - 2013.03.10 00:53:00 - [42] - Quote Just make the female heavy have a smaller frame.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2382	Posted - 2013.03.10 05:48:00 - [43] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Guessing trolling. shes serious chick wants her boobs
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 56	Posted - 2013.03.10 08:49:00 - [44] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Proportion? Please, you act like military women have the figure of a man with slightly larger breasts. Nope, military women tend to be fairly curvy, the dust 514 women do not look like military women, they're an odd combination of stick thin legs with a curvy bum and chest. I'm certainly not arguing for them to look like men or to get rid of their breasts, I'm arguing for them to look like military women. They just feel out of place given how seriously the New Eden world takes itself otherwise. Ideally, we'd be able to make our on characters in future and this'll all be moot. Do they not look a bit scrawny for a soldier? http://cdn.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/female_mercs-660x371.jpg They're as stick thin as me, and I'm as weak as a kitten.
Rachoi HavoK Core 30	Posted - 2013.03.10 10:07:00 - [45] - Quote a little scrawny, maybe, they could use a bit more muscle on those arms, as for the legs, and torso, not much more is needed there, i've met many carreer service women, they are actually rather compact in actual bodyshape, curves are there, but... uhm... i still go back to its the fact that Amarrians are religious prudes, and the Gallente is going to have much more.. erm.. form fitting looks, to come
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 106	Posted - 2013.03.10 14:46:00 - [46] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Nope, military women tend to be fairly curvy Can't the same be said about all women?
Lunamaria Hawkeye SyNergy Gaming 98	Posted - 2013.03.10 16:14:00 - [47] - Quote u jelly?
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2383	Posted - 2013.03.10 16:16:00 - [48] - Quote Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: Why don't you get over it? How does this matter at all, don't waste CCP's time with this nonsense. Fruitless, pointless, and meaningless sup smoofy
Principus Shmoof Triariian Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2013.03.10 16:24:00 - [49] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: Why don't you get over it? How does this matter at all, don't waste CCP's time with this nonsense. Fruitless, pointless, and meaningless sup smoofy Nummies! you blew up 2 of my tanks in our lopsided corp battle!
Professormohawk Stasis Military Support 32	Posted - 2013.03.10 17:06:00 - [50] - Quote actually wouldnt the armor be thinner at the boobage? 6 inches of boobs would make 12 inches armor to be only 6 inches. cuz of the space the boobies take up.

Swufy Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.03.10 17:46:00 - [51] - Quote Look at the hands. A smaller frame is inside the larger armor. However, the armor does have to be form fitting or all of that weight will cut off blood flow. From my wife: Binding is uncomfortable and reduces the ability to breathe, which is essential in a fight. But binding would result in a greatly reduced bust so as not to show through this thick armor. HOWEVER! You can't use the Amarr as super religious, anti-femininity. Watch the opening video. I don't EVE, but assuming the girl with the coat open to her crotch shouting "But we have been blessed!" is the Amarr leader, your argument is incorrect. Generally, female run religions don't suppress female voice or shape. If I'm wrong, then may Amarr strike me down or something XD.
J Lav Lost-Legion 30	Posted - 2013.03.10 21:08:00 - [52] - Quote http://images.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/1237666634_top-10-hottest-historical-women_9.jpg
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 355	Posted - 2013.03.10 21:59:00 - [53] - Quote OP has a male avatar. I call troll.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 355	Posted - 2013.03.10 22:26:00 - [54] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr culture is heavily based on religious extremism. Allowing females to flaunt their femininity is rarely a popular suggestion in such groups. Also related to the reason why Gallente give their Scouts high heels. Actually, the comment on Amarr prudishness is pretty valid. It is worth noting that our boy scouts get high heels, too. I looked.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 356	Posted - 2013.03.11 00:31:00 - [55] - Quote Swufy wrote: HOWEVER! You can't use the Amarr as super religious, anti-femininity. Watch the opening video. I don't EVE, but assuming the girl with the coat open to her crotch shouting "But we have been blessed!" is the Amarr leader, your argument is incorrect. Generally, female run religions don't suppress female voice or shape. If I'm wrong, then may Amarr strike me down or something XD. Actually, Jamyl I is unusual on a number of fronts. For one thing, she is a capsuleer. For another thing, she is insane has another entity living inside her head. It is also worth noting that Amarr prudishness is not a given, just the public face that everyone in the Empire wears. The previous PM was a grotesque, debauched monster in private but the soul of religious propriety in public.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 36	Posted - 2013.03.13 06:41:00 - [56] - Quote Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Kesi Raae Kaae wrote: The female scouts and assaults don't look like female soldiers clad in armour, they look like photo-shopped models clad in armour. While this is fine and progressive in the context of gaming in general, it just feels out of place in the context of New Eden. I'm not saying that the way the female mercenaries look is sexist or anything like that, I'm saying their look is inconsistent and jarring. "Model". They are soldiers, of course they are going to be physically fit. If you mean with gigantic buxom and an unproportionate posterior, I'm going to say I don't really see that. They don't look physically fit at all, they have nice breasts and huge bums with anorexic limbs and waist, they just look odd, everything is out of proportion. If their limbs and waist were just a bit thicker/more muscular I don't think I would have a problem, they'd look nice and proportional, more soldiery and more consistent with Dust's feel. I also think the male scout and assault suits look odd and out of proportion, too, but not to the extent that the female suits do and at least they almost look as if a soldier is occupying them. That's probably because the texture of a female model has been crammed onto a male skeleton.
RedBleach LeSanglant Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2013.03.14 00:05:00 - [57] - Quote In a future of limitless technology, gene therapy, and advanced materials why would everyone go for looks and comfort? In a society that recognizes the differences between sexes - the benefits, the difficulties, and the overall uniqueness of each sex - yet affirms equality in all possible arenas a dropsuit that favors a woman's physique is not out of line. In times past decorative female armor was made as was functional female armor. The same goes for our modern wares - granted there is less demand so i imagine less catering to the non-standard female warrior (seriously amazing in our century). This would in no way mean that we will not see further progression. The physics of a larger bust, less initially dense support behind the chest plate means nothing to our abilities to drape, wrap, bend, connects, mesh, and mold materials to whatever we desire and then bolt them to a support structure or something more solid. It is a non issue. Heavy Suit females should have a representation of their sex. A larger bust vs the pot belly of a current heavy, a slight sloping waistline (as opposed to the brick wall of the current model), an altered waist drape for flare - symbolism or sexuality or not, etc. There are many changes that could be done... correction, that should be done. In a future of equality why wouldn't we want he best of what the universe had to offer. (Personally I think it has to do more with the model and image wrapping used, like what has been mentioned, so it should be fixed eventually) +1 to the OP and the support of boobies everywhere. Remember - none of us would be here without them.
Llan Heindell One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 4	Posted - 2013.04.01 03:02:00 - [58] - Quote Quarters Minour wrote: As a female gamer, if there's ever an option for a female character, I take it (gotta represent!) However, as a heavy, there's no difference between the male and female suits. This is extremely upsetting!!! There's a female character in every suit except the heavy! Why should my boobs be left out when everyone else's are clearly visible? I realize that some excuse might be 'well the suit itself is big so your **** wouldn't show anyway.' I have no problem with the way the suit looks, except that I have no boobs; and I suppose that PERHAPS it would save time/money/whatever to have both the male heavy and female heavy look the same... BUT I WANT MY BOOBS!!!! As a male gamer, if there's ever an option for a female character, I take it (gotta show respect for all the women, because without them I would not be playing games). :DDD and as a full supporter of this idea, I am hereby resurrecting this thread. +1 Llan Heindell.
SickJ French unchained corporation 50	Posted - 2013.04.01 06:03:00 - [59] - Quote Swufy wrote: HOWEVER! You can't use the Amarr as super religious, anti-femininity. Watch the opening video. I don't EVE, but assuming the girl with the coat open to her crotch shouting "But we have been blessed!" is the Amarr leader, your argument is incorrect. Generally, female run religions don't suppress female voice or shape. If I'm wrong, then may Amarr strike me down or something XD. In this case, it seems the gender of the person running the Empire has nothing to do with it. They repress sexuality in general. Jamyl gets a free pass because no one dares tell her what to wear. (and since she's a capsuleer she's going to hell anyway)
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2307	Posted - 2013.04.01 07:17:00 - [60] - Quote Vaerana Myshtana wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: The Amarr culture is heavily based on religious extremism. Allowing females to flaunt their femininity is rarely a popular suggestion in such groups. Also related to the reason why Gallente give their Scouts high heels. Actually, the comment on Amarr prudishness is pretty valid. It is worth noting that our boy scouts get high heels, too. I looked. There's a reason I didn't specifically restrict to female Scouts when I mentioned the heels. ...which my girlfriend has corrected me about. They're "wedges" not "high heels". Apparently there's a difference.



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