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Kas Croixe
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:39:00 -
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am I using the terminology correctly? It was a bunch of people who by faaaaaaar outgeared literally everyone on my team, fielded two tanks in the first minute of battle, redlined us, and then switched to adv/proto sniping suits. then kept calling in Orbital Strikes into our base. real classy.
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
and even then there was a way to gain retribution(my method was to go get my angry ship(amarr coercer) turn his little cronies into ash{they picked apart my ship after he blew it up}, and finally gather a small group of people who were really pissed at him, and blow his ass to bits. but leave him in his pod for a nice, slow flight home, so he could think about not pissing off someone with a vengeful streak.)
here my mistake was "existing". and the only retribution would be... oh wait, their guns are better than mine, I can't even put a dent in their shields with my rifle, and they have a tank on either hill, aimed at our spawns. so I literally have no option to fight back. I try to do some av, and I can't even hurt their tank with my militia swarms, I try to snipe, and I get one shotted by a tank, or return fire when my bullets ineffectually plink off their helmet.
Sorry you pubstompers aren't good enough to go and fight corp battles, or whatever it is where that kind of firepower is actually warranted.
Rant over. Pubstompers suck. |
Calgoth Reborn
United Front LLC
147
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:42:00 -
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Miltia AV suck's so train some AV skill's and stop the QQ |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
146
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:42:00 -
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Peace B |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1012
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:44:00 -
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Use this anger, feed on it. Sharpen your teeth on the bones of your enemies. Keep fighting. Refit to cheap gear if you have to, but keep fighting.
Take notes, learn something from each fight. Did your team have any uplinks deployed in this match for example. Adapt, have a fit ready to roll with uplinks, and try and keep at least 1 uplink active on the map somewhere. If your team has enough of these out they cannot be redlined, even if they lose all the control points.
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Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
658
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:44:00 -
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Sorry to hear playing against you in pubs is the only way these other people are able to earn their active SP. Take it up with CCP. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
441
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:49:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:am I using the terminology correctly? It was a bunch of people who by faaaaaaar outgeared literally everyone on my team, fielded two tanks in the first minute of battle, redlined us, and then switched to adv/proto sniping suits. then kept calling in Orbital Strikes into our base. real classy.
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
and even then there was a way to gain retribution(my method was to go get my angry ship(amarr coercer) turn his little cronies into ash{they picked apart my ship after he blew it up}, and finally gather a small group of people who were really pissed at him, and blow his ass to bits. but leave him in his pod for a nice, slow flight home, so he could think about not pissing off someone with a vengeful streak.)
here my mistake was "existing". and the only retribution would be... oh wait, their guns are better than mine, I can't even put a dent in their shields with my rifle, and they have a tank on either hill, aimed at our spawns. so I literally have no option to fight back. I try to do some av, and I can't even hurt their tank with my militia swarms, I try to snipe, and I get one shotted by a tank, or return fire when my bullets ineffectually plink off their helmet.
Sorry you pubstompers aren't good enough to go and fight corp battles, or whatever it is where that kind of firepower is actually warranted.
Rant over. Pubstompers suck. There's tons of good advice on these forums.
The question with DUST is will you break it, or will it break you?
Die well, noob ;) |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
107
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:56:00 -
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Don't hate on the players hate on the game developers.
I have been on both sides of this issue and it sucks.
Redlining is boring for both sides.
If I get redlined within the first 2 mins of a match I farm SP/ ISK by running BPO suits and free LAV's. Or you could just sit in the MCC and go get some food, do a chore, troll these forums, come back in 10-15 mins and try it all over again.
Manus Peak map is the worst map for redline matches and IMO should be removed from the rotation, forever. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
740
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:05:00 -
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Sounds typical. What else is there to do in DUST atm? It's all about ISK and SP, so yeah, pubstomping is about all the entertainment going around now.
Corp matches? lol. More like a gambling media than anything else atm, plus 8v8 has gotten stale months ago. |
Kas Croixe
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:09:00 -
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so, basically my only response to this is to "keep trying" and getting ****ing stomped into the floor, pissed on, stomped again, and to smile the whole time because sometime in the future I'll be able to be a **** to the noobies too?
god, this game is even worse than eve. at least there they don't pretend you stand a chance. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
174
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:13:00 -
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Lol red-lining. It's a natural progression. If the enemy teamwork and assets suck so much arse, it's only natural for them to end up becoming red line. What is your team going to do? Let them hack a few points to keep it interesting? GoodGuyTeam thinks so.
I mean I understand the rage but when players have so much ISK and SP they'll throw about everything they have at you except the neck. If you're losing so bad you might as well just leave or start using your cheap/ZergRush Suits. :3 That's what I always do and I never spend more than the ISK I gain. |
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Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
199
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:19:00 -
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Sometimes you are the Windshield, sometimes you are the Bug.
But dent 308 makes a good point about uplinks. I added a Militia BPO Drop Uplink to a copy of one of my starter suits. If I die it does not cost me anything. If I manage to get past the enemy front lines and drop an uplink, then I create a breach in their defences.
Sometimes the other team is not that much better than your team. If they get lucky and everything goes their way in the first 2 minutes of the match and they Redline you, then they have the tactical advantage and can hold you there for the rest of the match. But if you can get a Drop Uplink behind their lines then enough of your team can spawn there to take some objectives before the Red team has time to react. I have seen games where we were redlined completely shift and seen us win.
On the other hand I have also seen games where most of the other team are good experienced players and most of my team were inexperienced. Half the time I was picked off trying to cross enemy lines, and when I did get an uplink down our advance would be repelled and the drop uplink destroyed. Still, it is more fun trying to get a Drop Uplink into position rather than just trying to snipe ineffectively from the red zone. Not to mention the fact that you get +25 WP every time someone spawns. |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
389
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:19:00 -
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Just to clarify I was using a Tactical Sniper Rifle which is standard gear. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
435
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:20:00 -
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My advice is to learn how to play the game better so you can carry your team like me, till than wipe your tears away and pull up your pants |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
126
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:21:00 -
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I think what he's getting at is the simple fact that the high SP well geared players know who is worth a sh$t and who isnt, yet insist on using their high end gear and calling out tanks and such vs 16 random pubs.
sure if theres an organized squad on the other side thats 1 thing, but I can see the OP point.
Personally, I only use higher end gear when there are organized squads on the other side... good chance to make some $ when its total randoms.
sorry to hear you got beat down by some kids that had rough childhoods getting their lunch money ganked from the class bully, and they are now taking out that aggression on you and other new players trying to get a grasp on this game :( |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
339
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:22:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:My advice is to learn how to play the game better so you can carry your team like me, till than wipe your tears away and pull up your pants
In order to do this you also have to rage after every time you lose a tank |
LeroyJethro Gibbs
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:22:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:am I using the terminology correctly? It was a bunch of people who by faaaaaaar outgeared literally everyone on my team, fielded two tanks in the first minute of battle, redlined us, and then switched to adv/proto sniping suits. then kept calling in Orbital Strikes into our base. real classy.
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
and even then there was a way to gain retribution(my method was to go get my angry ship(amarr coercer) turn his little cronies into ash{they picked apart my ship after he blew it up}, and finally gather a small group of people who were really pissed at him, and blow his ass to bits. but leave him in his pod for a nice, slow flight home, so he could think about not pissing off someone with a vengeful streak.)
here my mistake was "existing". and the only retribution would be... oh wait, their guns are better than mine, I can't even put a dent in their shields with my rifle, and they have a tank on either hill, aimed at our spawns. so I literally have no option to fight back. I try to do some av, and I can't even hurt their tank with my militia swarms, I try to snipe, and I get one shotted by a tank, or return fire when my bullets ineffectually plink off their helmet.
Sorry you pubstompers aren't good enough to go and fight corp battles, or whatever it is where that kind of firepower is actually warranted.
Rant over. Pubstompers suck.
MM should use SP & Squad size or this game's appeal will be limited as new players will ONLY have a harder and harder time trying to compete with vets as the SP gap increases.
Hopefully pub release will have MM with those abilities. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1012
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:22:00 -
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Uplinks are best deployed before you need them. Once you are redlined its too late. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1946
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:28:00 -
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This is exactly what's wrong with the Beta right now, among a host of other things.
People will sit here and try to argue otherwise, mostly because they want to feel as though they have skill, but the simple fact of the matter is that matchmaking is broken and only seems to pit highly uneven teams against each other.
Team A: 8+ players all with 3M+ SP and proto gear, in squads Team B: 1 or 2 players with 3M+ SP, no squads, the rest being blueberries fresh off the plant
Matchmaking: Sounds fair. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
199
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:28:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Uplinks are best deployed before you need them. Once you are redlined its too late. True. But if they have destroyed all your Uplinks while they where pushing you back, trying to get new ones down gives you something to do. And if you do it quickly enough you can sometimes turn things around. |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
160
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:33:00 -
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Oh these tears.. nom nom nom. |
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Pent'noir
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:34:00 -
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I'd like to see multiple matchmakers that limits the meta level of the gear you can use. Give it a reason of solar system security status. That way if you join a higher isk paying game in a low sec/nullsec solar system, then you can expect that pub stomping will occur. |
Fraceska
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
160
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:42:00 -
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Once they give people more to do you will find these "pubstomping" events lessen drastically as it will be far more profitable to be in null sec pewing pewing each other there. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
441
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:49:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Uplinks are best deployed before you need them. Once you are redlined its too late. ^ My hero. Life is fairly lonely for an uplink guy in pubbies. If only the noobs knew. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
77
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:59:00 -
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If your team lets itself get redlined it deserves it frankly, can I assume no one on your side squaded up? no form of directons given and everyone just sorta moved about doing whatever? |
Kas Croixe
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:04:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:If your team lets itself get redlined it deserves it frankly, can I assume no one on your side squaded up? no form of directons given and everyone just sorta moved about doing whatever?
I was in the only squad on the team. we got one order given the entire match, in the last 5 minutes, to go and recapture A. It went unheeded.
so we deserved to be curbstomped because we're newer in the game, and can't field tanks, and can't use high-level weapons and suits?
**** right off. I'm not saying we should have won, but christ, at least make it feel like we even stood a minimal chance. |
Bald Crusader Two
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:15:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Use this anger, feed on it. Sharpen your teeth on the bones of your enemies. Based on the tale of woe there was only one type of bone given to the OP.
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Jikt Terlen
Certificate of Participation
6
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:29:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:If your team lets itself get redlined it deserves it frankly, can I assume no one on your side squaded up? no form of directons given and everyone just sorta moved about doing whatever? I was in the only squad on the team. we got one order given the entire match, in the last 5 minutes, to go and recapture A. It went unheeded. so we deserved to be curbstomped because we're newer in the game, and can't field tanks, and can't use high-level weapons and suits? **** right off. I'm not saying we should have won, but christ, at least make it feel like we even stood a minimal chance.
Yep, this describes about half the games at this point. The issue is that there is no matchmaking, which probably made sense in closed beta but not so much now.
On one hand, I find it both funny and sad to see the winning team not just dominating but going on to utterly humiliate the other side, with multiple high-level tanks, repeated orbital strikes and so forth. On the other hand, what else is there for them to do? It's boring no matter which side you're on. If you're losing, there's no reason to even spawn in, as you're just going to be fodder. If you're winning, there's nobody even on the field to fight most of the time, so you go looking for red dots just out of boredom.
In addition to matchmaking, there's a lot CCP could do to encourage and streamline team coordination. As it is, I never hear random team chatter -- I have literally heard it once. If you put everyone in a single team-wide chat channel automatically, which you can opt out of if you want to just talk to your squad, and switch it on by default, people will eventually start working together.
For the people who are all "lol your tears are delicious" -- if you actually want a challenge and a fun game, and not just mindless farming to get more SP and ISK which you can then spend on more farming, you should be encouraging ways to keep the other side in the game. I find it boring as he|| to be in a skirmish game where the other side is redlined and utterly squashed, there's nothing to do but kick them when they're down. I'm not interested in being a playground bully, what's the point? Any kind of competitive game, even if it means a mechanism of getting the other side back in the game, is better than a pubstomp. |
Banjo Hero
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.03.08 22:44:00 -
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Jikt Terlen wrote:... If you put everyone in a single team-wide chat channel automatically, which you can opt out of if you want to just talk to your squad, and switch it on by default, people will eventually start working together. ...
Too true, man. There're already enough hoops inexperienced players have to jump through to use voice commo in this game.
I would add the suggestion that CCP make it so when the Team channel closes at the end of the match, you return to whatever channel (Squad, Corp, etc) you were in before it put you in Team. Oh, and maybe keep Team open longer than it is currently, like until you leave the post-game score screens.
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
149
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:23:00 -
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"if you actually want a challenge and a fun game, and not just mindless farming to get more SP and ISK which you can then spend on more farming, you should be encouraging ways to keep the other side in the game"
wait a minute:
so you're saying in order for the game to be successful we need to keep the people around who are least capable of playing it? you want to encourage the people to stay who the op herself said got redlined in no time at all? and THAT will make the game better somehow?
not only that...
you want everyone to go easy on em?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
this game is f'ed.
Peace B |
ChargersGirlLuvsDP
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:41:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
this game is f'ed.
Peace B
Do you keep that in a text document on your desktop? You said the same **** about MAG, cried the same way about DCUO and now you're proclaiming it about Dust.
Probably missed you tooting the same horn on several other forums too.
Is it fun living in your mom's bassmeant (c wut I did tharr?) playing video games all day while waiting on your monthly government cheese?? |
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
61
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:47:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:My advice is to learn how to play the game better so you can carry your team like me, till than wipe your tears away and pull up your pants In order to do this you also have to rage after every time you lose a tank
That isn't true, he pulled 3 tanks out today.
Zitro, I think after the first one went you should've just gave up
I went negative anyway so I cant really say anything I guess |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
175
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:51:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:am I using the terminology correctly? It was a bunch of people who by faaaaaaar outgeared literally everyone on my team, fielded two tanks in the first minute of battle, redlined us, and then switched to adv/proto sniping suits. then kept calling in Orbital Strikes into our base. real classy.
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
and even then there was a way to gain retribution(my method was to go get my angry ship(amarr coercer) turn his little cronies into ash{they picked apart my ship after he blew it up}, and finally gather a small group of people who were really pissed at him, and blow his ass to bits. but leave him in his pod for a nice, slow flight home, so he could think about not pissing off someone with a vengeful streak.)
here my mistake was "existing". and the only retribution would be... oh wait, their guns are better than mine, I can't even put a dent in their shields with my rifle, and they have a tank on either hill, aimed at our spawns. so I literally have no option to fight back. I try to do some av, and I can't even hurt their tank with my militia swarms, I try to snipe, and I get one shotted by a tank, or return fire when my bullets ineffectually plink off their helmet.
Sorry you pubstompers aren't good enough to go and fight corp battles, or whatever it is where that kind of firepower is actually warranted.
Rant over. Pubstompers suck. ROFL this is an fps there need be no reason to get your head blown off but it is fun to have a reason |
WE LOVE ReGnUM
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:58:00 -
[33] - Quote
I was there ... it was horrible |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
174
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:58:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:If your team lets itself get redlined it deserves it frankly, can I assume no one on your side squaded up? no form of directons given and everyone just sorta moved about doing whatever? I was in the only squad on the team. we got one order given the entire match, in the last 5 minutes, to go and recapture A. It went unheeded. so we deserved to be curbstomped because we're newer in the game, and can't field tanks, and can't use high-level weapons and suits? **** right off. I'm not saying we should have won, but christ, at least make it feel like we even stood a minimal chance.
Quite frankly, adapt or die.
I got stomped. I got better. I do the stomping now. Until a team with bigger boots come along. |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
91
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:36:00 -
[35] - Quote
Kas Croixe wrote: ... here my mistake was "existing" ...
Solution: Biomass yourself |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:02:00 -
[36] - Quote
Kas Croixe wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:If your team lets itself get redlined it deserves it frankly, can I assume no one on your side squaded up? no form of directons given and everyone just sorta moved about doing whatever? I was in the only squad on the team. we got one order given the entire match, in the last 5 minutes, to go and recapture A. It went unheeded. so we deserved to be curbstomped because we're newer in the game, and can't field tanks, and can't use high-level weapons and suits? **** right off. I'm not saying we should have won, but christ, at least make it feel like we even stood a minimal chance. There lies the problem, maybe you should take the iniative and ask guys to squad up before game starts, "if half the cheapo's have mics" and you be the squad leader, maybe, just sayin... |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
390
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:08:00 -
[37] - Quote
Kas Croixe wrote:I'm not saying we should have won, but christ, at least make it feel like we even stood a minimal chance.
You didn't stand even a minimal chance. Not even for a moment.
I don't know about most people but I came in to this game without knowing anyone or anything. I've been on the receiving end of beatdowns that were were worse even than what we did to you guys. The tanks were called in immediately, it's skirmish and letting the enemy gather their forces is a poor strategy. I pulled out my sniper rifle after you had been redlined because there was no need to run out there with an AR and duke it out. As for the orbitals I'm not commenting on that as I didn't call them in.
Teamwork wins this game, period. You guys had none. I think your entire team was in NPC corps and as you said the only squad order came almost at the end of the match.
Look, I'm not going to pull out my best gear just for the lulz but I'm not going to screw around either. I'm there to kill red dots and win games. As hard and as fast as possible. I didn't use advanced gear because honestly I didn't feel your team was worth the risk and I didn't need it.
I'm not sorry for any of it. I'm not going to give anyone even a remote chance if they don't earn it. That being said I don't want people to get discouraged and leave the game either. Add me as a contact in game and send me a mail if you want to HTFU and we can squad up.
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
150
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:10:00 -
[38] - Quote
"You said the same **** about MAG"
yeah and you nerds couldn't play mag either and it died in order to protect you nerds from the exact same thing the op is tamponing about.
and you think i'm the one with the problem?
i can play these games.
YOU guys are the ones with the sand in vage syndrome.
yeah go ahead and blame the devs and the game...
Peace B |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
184
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:10:00 -
[39] - Quote
Kas Croixe wrote:am I using the terminology correctly? It was a bunch of people who by faaaaaaar outgeared literally everyone on my team, fielded two tanks in the first minute of battle, redlined us, and then switched to adv/proto sniping suits. then kept calling in Orbital Strikes into our base. real classy.
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
and even then there was a way to gain retribution(my method was to go get my angry ship(amarr coercer) turn his little cronies into ash{they picked apart my ship after he blew it up}, and finally gather a small group of people who were really pissed at him, and blow his ass to bits. but leave him in his pod for a nice, slow flight home, so he could think about not pissing off someone with a vengeful streak.)
here my mistake was "existing". and the only retribution would be... oh wait, their guns are better than mine, I can't even put a dent in their shields with my rifle, and they have a tank on either hill, aimed at our spawns. so I literally have no option to fight back. I try to do some av, and I can't even hurt their tank with my militia swarms, I try to snipe, and I get one shotted by a tank, or return fire when my bullets ineffectually plink off their helmet.
Sorry you pubstompers aren't good enough to go and fight corp battles, or whatever it is where that kind of firepower is actually warranted.
Rant over. Pubstompers suck. oh here is a solution... get out of the redline, go lonewolf on their asses by going behind them and kill them, you will be satisfied killing a red line spawn killer. you dont have to stay along w/ the other useless fucks in your team and get redlined along with them. dumb ass. just make sure to take hidden rout to get out of the red line so you dont... get KILLED. seriously it amazes me how noobs complain but dont do anything to improve. |
Jikt Terlen
Certificate of Participation
7
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:15:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Eloquently stated. Let me try and spell it out for you: nobody, including and probably especially you, was born being omgsuperawesome at any game. I realize you probably don't care if anyone who isn't already in your little clique ever plays Dust again, but if the games are set up in such a way that it's very difficult for new players to stay on the field long enough to get better at it, it's not likely to attract much of an audience. The issue is NOT that people get dominated by better players. Practice getting your face destroyed is how you get better. The issue is that it's too easy to tip Skirmish games to a point where there is zero chance for the losing side to come back, and no amount of stunning gunplay is going to turn the tide.
This is a fixable problem, but there is obviously an entrenched playerbase in Dust that has established its position and doesn't want it threatened. It's hard to imagine what some of the bigger corps even get out of the game at this point, pulling on their proto suits, rolling out their tanks with zero threat of being killed, settling in for another 35-0 game against yet another Kindergarten class. I guess that's "fun," or something. I personally would like to see the game grow instead of stagnate, but obviously you disagree. I guess we'll see in time which side CCP falls on. |
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undeadsoldier90
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:I think what he's getting at is the simple fact that the high SP well geared players know who is worth a sh$t and who isnt, yet insist on using their high end gear and calling out tanks and such vs 16 random pubs.
sure if theres an organized squad on the other side thats 1 thing, but I can see the OP point.
Personally, I only use higher end gear when there are organized squads on the other side... good chance to make some $ when its total randoms.
sorry to hear you got beat down by some kids that had rough childhoods getting their lunch money ganked from the class bully, and they are now taking out that aggression on you and other new players trying to get a grasp on this game :(
You and blu use good gear when im around lol. Or my tank. |
XxWarlordxX97
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yo dead long time no see |
Beld Errmon
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Kas Croixe wrote:
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
Really you are going to use that as your way to compare dust to eve, In eve you got killed because you are bad and stupid, In dust you get killed because you are bad and stupid.
Most ppl get absolutely stomped on in FPS games when they first start playing, when i started playing dust I was lucky to get a positive K/D and it was the same when i first started playing BF2, a lot of players don't whine about it they just keep playing and get better, its why you hear wonderful things like HTFU and GET GUD. |
undeadsoldier90
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:yo dead long time no see
Took the week off the forums to grind and stomp imps lol. Although I didnt find any imps...... |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:37:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:yo dead long time no see Took the week off the forums to grind and stomp imps lol. Although I didnt find any imps......
you should have join my squad today |
undeadsoldier90
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:yo dead long time no see Took the week off the forums to grind and stomp imps lol. Although I didnt find any imps...... you should have join my squad today
Was only on for about an hour. I was playing with your name here and venom and free beers this week, didnt see you. |
Vash- Akura
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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This is matchmakings fault pure and simple.
While it has gotten better it is nowhere where it needs to be.
Ccp should have put people with less than 2 mill sp. in a match together. Doesn't matter what you skilled in to but once past 2 you play with big boys (or have another tier 2-4 mill).
On top of that have two selections solo or squad.
Solo games only let you in if you are queueing up by yourself.
Squad games can let anyone in but is mainly for squads to play other organized squads.
This game depends heavily on teamwork so find some like minded people and corp. up with them. You find you don't like that corp. just leave and join another, until you find one that clicks. |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:16:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:yo dead long time no see Took the week off the forums to grind and stomp imps lol. Although I didnt find any imps...... you should have join my squad today Was only on for about an hour. I was playing with your name here and venom and free beers this week, didnt see you.
when you were doing that i was fighting mr zitro tank |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.09 03:05:00 -
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Vash- Akura wrote:This is matchmakings fault pure and simple.
While it has gotten better it is nowhere where it needs to be.
Ccp should have put people with less than 2 mill sp. in a match together. Doesn't matter what you skilled in to but once past 2 you play with big boys (or have another tier 2-4 mill).
On top of that have two selections solo or squad.
Solo games only let you in if you are queueing up by yourself.
Squad games can let anyone in but is mainly for squads to play other organized squads.
This game depends heavily on teamwork so find some like minded people and corp. up with them. You find you don't like that corp. just leave and join another, until you find one that clicks.
I could be wrong, but the squad mechanic in matchmaking does need to be fixed. It seems like it doesn't account for the number of ppl in a squad, just that there is a squad. I often see a squad of 1 or 2 ppl and then on the other team there will be a full squad. So if you are joining in a game with less than a full squad, then you could be putting the entire team at a disadvantage. The number of squads seems to be even on both teams, but the player count in the squads aren't.
The system you are talking about seems like a better system than the one we currently have, although, it still would not resolve someone going full proto and stomping newbies, however, it would make it alot harder for them to stomp. |
Kas Croixe
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:oh here is a solution... get out of the redline, go lonewolf on their asses by going behind them and kill them, you will be satisfied killing a red line spawn killer. you dont have to stay along w/ the other useless fucks in your team and get redlined along with them. dumb ass. just make sure to take hidden rout to get out of the red line so you dont... get KILLED. seriously it amazes me how noobs complain but dont do anything to improve.
I tried that. made it about 5 feet before getting a charge sniper round in the chest. tried again, made it 15 feet and caught a tactical round in the side of the head(good shot, 90* angle and sprinting. I might not like the getting stomped part, but that was a damn fine shot). watched a guy try it in a LAV, he got almost halfway to A before he and his passengers got vaporized by a tank.
they had snipers and/or a tank covering every exit from our base, and even for insult to injury tanksniped the supply depot that was in our base. |
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STALKER 167
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If anybody here has ever played a team based fps (Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, ET:QW, Battlefield) they'll know the only way to fix imba is by playing with people you can communicate with and know what they're doing.
The game is designed for corporate battles, not n00bs in pubs. 95% of players in pub matches don't care about working as a team or evening winning most of the time. |
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