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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:47:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:My advice is to learn how to play the game better so you can carry your team like me, till than wipe your tears away and pull up your pants In order to do this you also have to rage after every time you lose a tank
That isn't true, he pulled 3 tanks out today.
Zitro, I think after the first one went you should've just gave up
I went negative anyway so I cant really say anything I guess |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
175
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:51:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:am I using the terminology correctly? It was a bunch of people who by faaaaaaar outgeared literally everyone on my team, fielded two tanks in the first minute of battle, redlined us, and then switched to adv/proto sniping suits. then kept calling in Orbital Strikes into our base. real classy.
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
and even then there was a way to gain retribution(my method was to go get my angry ship(amarr coercer) turn his little cronies into ash{they picked apart my ship after he blew it up}, and finally gather a small group of people who were really pissed at him, and blow his ass to bits. but leave him in his pod for a nice, slow flight home, so he could think about not pissing off someone with a vengeful streak.)
here my mistake was "existing". and the only retribution would be... oh wait, their guns are better than mine, I can't even put a dent in their shields with my rifle, and they have a tank on either hill, aimed at our spawns. so I literally have no option to fight back. I try to do some av, and I can't even hurt their tank with my militia swarms, I try to snipe, and I get one shotted by a tank, or return fire when my bullets ineffectually plink off their helmet.
Sorry you pubstompers aren't good enough to go and fight corp battles, or whatever it is where that kind of firepower is actually warranted.
Rant over. Pubstompers suck. ROFL this is an fps there need be no reason to get your head blown off but it is fun to have a reason |
WE LOVE ReGnUM
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:58:00 -
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I was there ... it was horrible |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:58:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:If your team lets itself get redlined it deserves it frankly, can I assume no one on your side squaded up? no form of directons given and everyone just sorta moved about doing whatever? I was in the only squad on the team. we got one order given the entire match, in the last 5 minutes, to go and recapture A. It went unheeded. so we deserved to be curbstomped because we're newer in the game, and can't field tanks, and can't use high-level weapons and suits? **** right off. I'm not saying we should have won, but christ, at least make it feel like we even stood a minimal chance.
Quite frankly, adapt or die.
I got stomped. I got better. I do the stomping now. Until a team with bigger boots come along. |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
91
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Posted - 2013.03.09 00:36:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote: ... here my mistake was "existing" ...
Solution: Biomass yourself |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:02:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:If your team lets itself get redlined it deserves it frankly, can I assume no one on your side squaded up? no form of directons given and everyone just sorta moved about doing whatever? I was in the only squad on the team. we got one order given the entire match, in the last 5 minutes, to go and recapture A. It went unheeded. so we deserved to be curbstomped because we're newer in the game, and can't field tanks, and can't use high-level weapons and suits? **** right off. I'm not saying we should have won, but christ, at least make it feel like we even stood a minimal chance. There lies the problem, maybe you should take the iniative and ask guys to squad up before game starts, "if half the cheapo's have mics" and you be the squad leader, maybe, just sayin... |
Altina McAlterson
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
390
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:08:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:I'm not saying we should have won, but christ, at least make it feel like we even stood a minimal chance.
You didn't stand even a minimal chance. Not even for a moment.
I don't know about most people but I came in to this game without knowing anyone or anything. I've been on the receiving end of beatdowns that were were worse even than what we did to you guys. The tanks were called in immediately, it's skirmish and letting the enemy gather their forces is a poor strategy. I pulled out my sniper rifle after you had been redlined because there was no need to run out there with an AR and duke it out. As for the orbitals I'm not commenting on that as I didn't call them in.
Teamwork wins this game, period. You guys had none. I think your entire team was in NPC corps and as you said the only squad order came almost at the end of the match.
Look, I'm not going to pull out my best gear just for the lulz but I'm not going to screw around either. I'm there to kill red dots and win games. As hard and as fast as possible. I didn't use advanced gear because honestly I didn't feel your team was worth the risk and I didn't need it.
I'm not sorry for any of it. I'm not going to give anyone even a remote chance if they don't earn it. That being said I don't want people to get discouraged and leave the game either. Add me as a contact in game and send me a mail if you want to HTFU and we can squad up.
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
150
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:10:00 -
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"You said the same **** about MAG"
yeah and you nerds couldn't play mag either and it died in order to protect you nerds from the exact same thing the op is tamponing about.
and you think i'm the one with the problem?
i can play these games.
YOU guys are the ones with the sand in vage syndrome.
yeah go ahead and blame the devs and the game...
Peace B |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
184
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:10:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:am I using the terminology correctly? It was a bunch of people who by faaaaaaar outgeared literally everyone on my team, fielded two tanks in the first minute of battle, redlined us, and then switched to adv/proto sniping suits. then kept calling in Orbital Strikes into our base. real classy.
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
and even then there was a way to gain retribution(my method was to go get my angry ship(amarr coercer) turn his little cronies into ash{they picked apart my ship after he blew it up}, and finally gather a small group of people who were really pissed at him, and blow his ass to bits. but leave him in his pod for a nice, slow flight home, so he could think about not pissing off someone with a vengeful streak.)
here my mistake was "existing". and the only retribution would be... oh wait, their guns are better than mine, I can't even put a dent in their shields with my rifle, and they have a tank on either hill, aimed at our spawns. so I literally have no option to fight back. I try to do some av, and I can't even hurt their tank with my militia swarms, I try to snipe, and I get one shotted by a tank, or return fire when my bullets ineffectually plink off their helmet.
Sorry you pubstompers aren't good enough to go and fight corp battles, or whatever it is where that kind of firepower is actually warranted.
Rant over. Pubstompers suck. oh here is a solution... get out of the redline, go lonewolf on their asses by going behind them and kill them, you will be satisfied killing a red line spawn killer. you dont have to stay along w/ the other useless fucks in your team and get redlined along with them. dumb ass. just make sure to take hidden rout to get out of the red line so you dont... get KILLED. seriously it amazes me how noobs complain but dont do anything to improve. |
Jikt Terlen
Certificate of Participation
7
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:15:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Eloquently stated. Let me try and spell it out for you: nobody, including and probably especially you, was born being omgsuperawesome at any game. I realize you probably don't care if anyone who isn't already in your little clique ever plays Dust again, but if the games are set up in such a way that it's very difficult for new players to stay on the field long enough to get better at it, it's not likely to attract much of an audience. The issue is NOT that people get dominated by better players. Practice getting your face destroyed is how you get better. The issue is that it's too easy to tip Skirmish games to a point where there is zero chance for the losing side to come back, and no amount of stunning gunplay is going to turn the tide.
This is a fixable problem, but there is obviously an entrenched playerbase in Dust that has established its position and doesn't want it threatened. It's hard to imagine what some of the bigger corps even get out of the game at this point, pulling on their proto suits, rolling out their tanks with zero threat of being killed, settling in for another 35-0 game against yet another Kindergarten class. I guess that's "fun," or something. I personally would like to see the game grow instead of stagnate, but obviously you disagree. I guess we'll see in time which side CCP falls on. |
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undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
233
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:19:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:I think what he's getting at is the simple fact that the high SP well geared players know who is worth a sh$t and who isnt, yet insist on using their high end gear and calling out tanks and such vs 16 random pubs.
sure if theres an organized squad on the other side thats 1 thing, but I can see the OP point.
Personally, I only use higher end gear when there are organized squads on the other side... good chance to make some $ when its total randoms.
sorry to hear you got beat down by some kids that had rough childhoods getting their lunch money ganked from the class bully, and they are now taking out that aggression on you and other new players trying to get a grasp on this game :(
You and blu use good gear when im around lol. Or my tank. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
361
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:29:00 -
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yo dead long time no see |
Beld Errmon
UnReaL.
506
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:29:00 -
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Kas Croixe wrote:
That kind of **** makes me not want to play this game anymore. in EVE when I got killed by another player it was because I made a mistake that legally entitled them to kill me
"It's a space treasure chest, go on, open it, you look new and could therefore use it's contents more than I"
"golly gee wilikers mister, thanks! why did you just turn red? OHGODSTOPSHOOTING!"
Really you are going to use that as your way to compare dust to eve, In eve you got killed because you are bad and stupid, In dust you get killed because you are bad and stupid.
Most ppl get absolutely stomped on in FPS games when they first start playing, when i started playing dust I was lucky to get a positive K/D and it was the same when i first started playing BF2, a lot of players don't whine about it they just keep playing and get better, its why you hear wonderful things like HTFU and GET GUD. |
undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
233
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:35:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:yo dead long time no see
Took the week off the forums to grind and stomp imps lol. Although I didnt find any imps...... |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
361
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:37:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:yo dead long time no see Took the week off the forums to grind and stomp imps lol. Although I didnt find any imps......
you should have join my squad today |
undeadsoldier90
UnReaL.
233
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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:47:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:yo dead long time no see Took the week off the forums to grind and stomp imps lol. Although I didnt find any imps...... you should have join my squad today
Was only on for about an hour. I was playing with your name here and venom and free beers this week, didnt see you. |
Vash- Akura
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:11:00 -
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This is matchmakings fault pure and simple.
While it has gotten better it is nowhere where it needs to be.
Ccp should have put people with less than 2 mill sp. in a match together. Doesn't matter what you skilled in to but once past 2 you play with big boys (or have another tier 2-4 mill).
On top of that have two selections solo or squad.
Solo games only let you in if you are queueing up by yourself.
Squad games can let anyone in but is mainly for squads to play other organized squads.
This game depends heavily on teamwork so find some like minded people and corp. up with them. You find you don't like that corp. just leave and join another, until you find one that clicks. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
361
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Posted - 2013.03.09 02:16:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:yo dead long time no see Took the week off the forums to grind and stomp imps lol. Although I didnt find any imps...... you should have join my squad today Was only on for about an hour. I was playing with your name here and venom and free beers this week, didnt see you.
when you were doing that i was fighting mr zitro tank |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.03.09 03:05:00 -
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Vash- Akura wrote:This is matchmakings fault pure and simple.
While it has gotten better it is nowhere where it needs to be.
Ccp should have put people with less than 2 mill sp. in a match together. Doesn't matter what you skilled in to but once past 2 you play with big boys (or have another tier 2-4 mill).
On top of that have two selections solo or squad.
Solo games only let you in if you are queueing up by yourself.
Squad games can let anyone in but is mainly for squads to play other organized squads.
This game depends heavily on teamwork so find some like minded people and corp. up with them. You find you don't like that corp. just leave and join another, until you find one that clicks.
I could be wrong, but the squad mechanic in matchmaking does need to be fixed. It seems like it doesn't account for the number of ppl in a squad, just that there is a squad. I often see a squad of 1 or 2 ppl and then on the other team there will be a full squad. So if you are joining in a game with less than a full squad, then you could be putting the entire team at a disadvantage. The number of squads seems to be even on both teams, but the player count in the squads aren't.
The system you are talking about seems like a better system than the one we currently have, although, it still would not resolve someone going full proto and stomping newbies, however, it would make it alot harder for them to stomp. |
Kas Croixe
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.03.09 03:28:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:oh here is a solution... get out of the redline, go lonewolf on their asses by going behind them and kill them, you will be satisfied killing a red line spawn killer. you dont have to stay along w/ the other useless fucks in your team and get redlined along with them. dumb ass. just make sure to take hidden rout to get out of the red line so you dont... get KILLED. seriously it amazes me how noobs complain but dont do anything to improve.
I tried that. made it about 5 feet before getting a charge sniper round in the chest. tried again, made it 15 feet and caught a tactical round in the side of the head(good shot, 90* angle and sprinting. I might not like the getting stomped part, but that was a damn fine shot). watched a guy try it in a LAV, he got almost halfway to A before he and his passengers got vaporized by a tank.
they had snipers and/or a tank covering every exit from our base, and even for insult to injury tanksniped the supply depot that was in our base. |
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STALKER 167
Killshot Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.03.09 05:25:00 -
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If anybody here has ever played a team based fps (Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, ET:QW, Battlefield) they'll know the only way to fix imba is by playing with people you can communicate with and know what they're doing.
The game is designed for corporate battles, not n00bs in pubs. 95% of players in pub matches don't care about working as a team or evening winning most of the time. |
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