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BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:03:00 -
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Thats prett much it, last match RDV crashed on to my madrugar , took it down which had over 7000 ehp. What you guys think? |
Covert Clay
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
0
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:07:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Thats prett much it, last match RDV crashed on to my madrugar , took it down which had over 7000 ehp. What you guys think?
Welcome come to my world... FIX THIS CCP. there goes another 700k isk |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
134
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:25:00 -
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What's your fit? My Soma has almost 7k eHP. I feel like a Madrugar should have at least 10k. |
Yosef Autaal
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.03.08 17:28:00 -
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IT wud be safer if they just dropped the vehicles out the mcc without parachutes, might have more survive the call ins then -¼_-¼
So many times have i seen this happen.
although it is fun to watch RDV spamming out and crashing down on redberries head and watch the confusion spread |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:09:00 -
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Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:What's your fit? My Soma has almost 7k eHP. I feel like a Madrugar should have at least 10k. Good try. I have good fit so dont worry. It is not 700K ISK :(, I had proto scatter blaster on it. There goes my 1.15 M ISK. |
H4lfdog
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:18:00 -
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Karma strike back on tank drivers! You desserve this and you know it. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:20:00 -
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I've been voicing my displeasure with losing million ISK dropships because an RDV spawns inside me or 2 feet away at full speed, or randomly charges me after materializing out of nowhere.
It's definitely become a battlefield tactic to call in cheap LAV's and spam them near enemy vehicles, especially dropships.
Come on CCP. We have enough (expletive) to deal with. Fix this. And in order to fix this I fear some massive redesign of the deployment system will be required. I hope you're not too in love with that but I heard somewhere that one of the prime principals in game design is not being afraid to toss something that isn't working.
If you can bandaid it great, but don't fall to the sunk cost mentality in trying to salvage a broken idea. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:24:00 -
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The IRONY is that it was a friendly lav's RDV |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:33:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:The IRONY is that it was a friendly lav's RDV
happens often enough too |
Kelshaw Xu
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
72
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:35:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:The IRONY is that it was a friendly lav's RDV
The RDV is the bane of my dropship. Reds call in free RDV to kill me when i loiter over them and let the gunners have fun. Blues who called in a LAV to get to 'C' from 'B' when i'm on the ground at 'B' picking up my squad, kill me. I've lost dropships from my own squad mates calling a LAV. Only time it's ever intended to kill me this way is when I hover over the red blob.
It's nice to see a tanker feel my pain from time to time. |
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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:43:00 -
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Kelshaw Xu wrote:BOZ MR wrote:The IRONY is that it was a friendly lav's RDV The RDV is the bane of my dropship. Reds call in free RDV to kill me when i loiter over them and let the gunners have fun. Blues who called in a LAV to get to 'C' from 'B' when i'm on the ground at 'B' picking up my squad, kill me. I've lost dropships from my own squad mates calling a LAV. Only time it's ever intended to kill me this way is when I hover over the red blob. It's nice to see a tanker feel my pain from time to time.
Problem is people on your own team will call in LAV's to kill dropships for fun too.
Same way blueberries ram tanks with LAV's on the ground. Or shoot dropships to wobble them into a wall. Or try to steal a dropship to crash it into a wall for the lawls.
fix all of this. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
199
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:56:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:I've been voicing my displeasure with losing million ISK dropships because an RDV spawns inside me or 2 feet away at full speed, or randomly charges me after materializing out of nowhere.
Maybe if the RDVGÇÖs spawned above DropshipGÇÖs flight ceiling it would give you pilots time to avoid them. |
noob 45
Syndicate of Gods
8
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Posted - 2013.03.08 18:58:00 -
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Kelshaw Xu wrote:BOZ MR wrote:The IRONY is that it was a friendly lav's RDV The RDV is the bane of my dropship. Reds call in free RDV to kill me when i loiter over them and let the gunners have fun. Blues who called in a LAV to get to 'C' from 'B' when i'm on the ground at 'B' picking up my squad, kill me. I've lost dropships from my own squad mates calling a LAV. Only time it's ever intended to kill me this way is when I hover over the red blob. It's nice to see a tanker feel my pain from time to time.
Honestly I am one of those people who try and down enemy dropships with RDV pilots. That is only if I'm not in a forge suit shooting you down myself.
Honestly I love it when red dots spam LAV's and RDVs. It is a quick path to an orbital strike when your tanker gets +150 for a bola's and if his gunner is in on it throw in another 75 points. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:05:00 -
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As if it is easy to destroy bolas.. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
561
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:25:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:I've been voicing my displeasure with losing million ISK dropships because an RDV spawns inside me or 2 feet away at full speed, or randomly charges me after materializing out of nowhere.
Maybe if the RDVGÇÖs spawned above DropshipGÇÖs flight ceiling it would give you pilots time to avoid them. maybe if we had a flight ceiling that actually lets us gain altitude we could just fly over the RDV's with ease |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
471
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:30:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:As if it is easy to destroy bolas.. i wish i had the bolas' health on my tank.
those things eat so many shots. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
32
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:30:00 -
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I once saw an friendly RDV come in and clip an enemy dropship, destroying both. I could not play for another minute or so because I was laughing so hard.
Of course, the next match an RDV falls on me at spawn |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
561
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:37:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:I once saw an friendly RDV come in and clip an enemy dropship, destroying both. I could not play for another minute or so because I was laughing so hard. Of course, the next match an RDV falls on me at spawn Karma for laughing at the RDV killing a dropship, I have no sympathy for you |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
32
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:55:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:I once saw an friendly RDV come in and clip an enemy dropship, destroying both. I could not play for another minute or so because I was laughing so hard. Of course, the next match an RDV falls on me at spawn Karma for laughing at the RDV killing a dropship, I have no sympathy for you
To be fair, I would have laughed if it was on my own team as well. Hell, I even laughed when my RDV decided it would rather be a helmet. The DEVs either designed them to have the most alcoholic pilots in the universe or the dumbest.
Soon you will see squads start to RDV spam dropships.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
561
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Posted - 2013.03.08 19:59:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:gbghg wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:I once saw an friendly RDV come in and clip an enemy dropship, destroying both. I could not play for another minute or so because I was laughing so hard. Of course, the next match an RDV falls on me at spawn Karma for laughing at the RDV killing a dropship, I have no sympathy for you To be fair, I would have laughed if it was on my own team as well. Hell, I even laughed when my RDV decided it would rather be a helmet. The DEVs either designed them to have the most alcoholic pilots in the universe or the dumbest. Soon you will see squads start to RDV spam dropships. As a dropship pilot I officially hate this post and tactic |
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Skihids
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1008
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:02:00 -
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Some of that RDV spam might stop if it cost someone ISK every time one was lost.
Alternatively start charging enough for the LAVs that they won't be used as ammo.
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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
471
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:04:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Some of that RDV spam might stop if it cost someone ISK every time one was lost.
Alternatively start charging enough for the LAVs that they won't be used as ammo.
maybe if they didn't handle like a crap it would be worth paying for. in their current state they should pay you for getting in one. |
Skihids
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
1008
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:08:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Skihids wrote:Some of that RDV spam might stop if it cost someone ISK every time one was lost.
Alternatively start charging enough for the LAVs that they won't be used as ammo.
maybe if they didn't handle like a crap it would be worth paying for. in their current state they should pay you for getting in one.
True enough. I wouldn't get in one if I weren't immortal. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
32
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:10:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:gbghg wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:I once saw an friendly RDV come in and clip an enemy dropship, destroying both. I could not play for another minute or so because I was laughing so hard. Of course, the next match an RDV falls on me at spawn Karma for laughing at the RDV killing a dropship, I have no sympathy for you To be fair, I would have laughed if it was on my own team as well. Hell, I even laughed when my RDV decided it would rather be a helmet. The DEVs either designed them to have the most alcoholic pilots in the universe or the dumbest. Soon you will see squads start to RDV spam dropships. As a dropship pilot I officially hate this post and tactic
How can you hate the post? I wasnt laughing about a person losing a dropship, I was laughing at how ridiculous the situation is.
Its not just against dropship pilots either. One of my mates lost two $$$ tanks in one match because the RDVs kept crashing into buildings.
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BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:16:00 -
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I think if we make the current FREE LAVs (TRUCKS) worth 35,000 ISK , a price tag that is cheaper than some WEAPONS, much of the issue would be resolved. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
561
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:22:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:gbghg wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:gbghg wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:I once saw an friendly RDV come in and clip an enemy dropship, destroying both. I could not play for another minute or so because I was laughing so hard. Of course, the next match an RDV falls on me at spawn Karma for laughing at the RDV killing a dropship, I have no sympathy for you To be fair, I would have laughed if it was on my own team as well. Hell, I even laughed when my RDV decided it would rather be a helmet. The DEVs either designed them to have the most alcoholic pilots in the universe or the dumbest. Soon you will see squads start to RDV spam dropships. As a dropship pilot I officially hate this post and tactic How can you hate the post? I wasnt laughing about a person losing a dropship, I was laughing at how ridiculous the situation is. Its not just against dropship pilots either. One of my mates lost two $$$ tanks in one match because the RDVs kept crashing into buildings. I hate the post because it makes more players aware of this tactic, and only an incredible unlucky tanker has to worry about RDV's when his vehicle is already deployed |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
32
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:28:00 -
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gbghg wrote:
I hate the post because it makes more players aware of this tactic, and only an incredible unlucky tanker has to worry about RDV's when his vehicle is already deployed
You actually think blue/redberries are going to be organized enough in PUB matches to actually get this to work? Even if it were something such as a corp match, the situation would almost need to be perfect for it to work.
The 'deployed' part is the operative word there. Thats half the battle. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:30:00 -
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gbghg wrote: I hate the post because it makes more players aware of this tactic, and only an incredible unlucky tanker has to worry about RDV's when his vehicle is already deployed
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
561
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:34:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:gbghg wrote:
I hate the post because it makes more players aware of this tactic, and only an incredible unlucky tanker has to worry about RDV's when his vehicle is already deployed
You actually think blue/redberries are going to be organized enough in PUB matches to actually get this to work? Even if it were something such as a corp match, the situation would almost need to be perfect for it to work. The 'deployed' part is the operative word there. Thats half the battle. i know that the chances of this happening are incredibly remote but just seeing an RDV fly in is a good enough reason for me to avoid that part of the map in case any more are called in, it really is horrible seeing a RDV appear on a crash course with your dropship |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:37:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:gbghg wrote: I hate the post because it makes more players aware of this tactic, and only an incredible unlucky tanker has to worry about RDV's when his vehicle is already deployed
Incredibly unlucky here
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Kelshaw Xu
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
73
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:43:00 -
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The RDV spam is already a common tactic with vets. I find myself counting to ten sec, cause the RDV arrives in fifteen sec. what ever comes first. My tank is going to give, or I reach the ten sec. limit.
I don't mind being killed by AV, but when the AV is an RDV?! It feels like an exploit. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
561
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:44:00 -
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oh boz here's an idea, you should rename the thread "If you can't kill it, RDV it" |
noob 45
Syndicate of Gods
8
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Posted - 2013.03.08 20:47:00 -
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Kelshaw Xu wrote:The RDV spam is already a common tactic with vets. I find myself counting to ten sec, cause the RDV arrives in fifteen sec. what ever comes first. My tank is going to give, or I reach the ten sec. limit. I retreat.
I don't mind being killed by AV, but when the AV is an RDV?! It feels like an exploit.
For us tank drivers our own RDV is already an AV. I guess same holds true with dropship pilots since I have had a few RDV's pop my DS when they drop it on a crate. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:05:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:gbghg wrote:
I hate the post because it makes more players aware of this tactic, and only an incredible unlucky tanker has to worry about RDV's when his vehicle is already deployed
You actually think blue/redberries are going to be organized enough in PUB matches to actually get this to work? Even if it were something such as a corp match, the situation would almost need to be perfect for it to work. The 'deployed' part is the operative word there. Thats half the battle.
Um they are. I've seen it happen to me, others, used it, etc.
Almost every match. Especially when a vehicle is chilling around the same area for a short time. Yes, Yes, Yes. This is being used. And frankly it's BS. Needs addressed. |
blkdg
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:08:00 -
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When you call in an RDV make sure the area is clear of obstacles. Next if anyone is standing still on the radar they are probably calling in something too. Wait at least 15 seconds, play RDVATC (RDV air traffic control) give 'em separation onto the dropzone. If someone want to drop something were you are do your best to wave him off. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:14:00 -
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blkdg wrote:When you call in an RDV make sure the area is clear of obstacles. Next if anyone is standing still on the radar they are probably calling in something too. Wait at least 15 seconds, play RDVATC (RDV air traffic control) give 'em separation onto the dropzone. If someone want to drop something were you are do your best to wave him off.
They still sometimes go off in random directions far away from you and hover around for 30 seconds begging AV to knock it out before I can activate defenses. Or simply aim straight for a wall. Or kindly drop the ship on a hill where it rolls over and can't lift off under any configuration of possible movements. Waiting to die. RDVs are a total fail in their current implementation. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.03.08 21:15:00 -
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gbghg wrote:oh boz here's an idea, you should rename the thread "If you can't kill it, RDV it" Done |
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