DUST Search - Announcement:Dev Blog: Visual Effects Design in DUST 514

Joe1011phosfate wrote:

This just feels like a poor attempt at MAG. The graphics are getting better slowly but you guys are pulling in players from all kinds of backgrounds that are turning around and deleting this game because of the graphics and no attachment customization for weapons or cosmetic customization of weapons.

CCP has too much control here. Players want to be able to make a Merc their own and unique. This game just looks like what CCP wants to play and a handful of EVE followers.
If thats what your goal is more power to you but this game is Free to Play for a reason and that is how gamers are going to look at it. It is free, not dropsuit modifications by user, no attachments for weapons for a truly custom game play feel for the user, the possibilities within a class seem quite narrow, that's it.
I really hope CCP doesn't become know as the company that set out to accomplish something unprecedented and blew it completely.

For users that play only Dust, do you really think we care about EVE online? You just created an attached addition for Eve players with a PS3. For gamers that are strictly PS3 gamers you are running at full sprint in the wrong direction. You seriously need to take a few chapters from Call of Duty, Battlefield or hell any game on PS3 that fires a bullet for that matter. This looks like an over-glorified Nova mini from PSN.
The best thing I have seen happen that I was so wow'ed about is where yesterday when I logged on I had almost a million unallocated skill points and this was due to a CCP bang up as usual for not counting Passive SP properly.

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CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 499	Posted - 2013.03.08 10:52:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Luo Bin discussed the visual effects in DUST 514 and what it takes to make our game stand out when you fire a specific type of weapon. Molten plasma, forge lightning, bursts from the HMG and more visual effects are covered in the latest dev blog right here, on our website. Feel free to post your comments in this thread!

Coyskurk 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:04:00 - [2] - Quote For some strange reason these look like... Improved graphics. It might just be my eyes fooling me though
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3119	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:06:00 - [3] - Quote Oooooh, very pretty. I see the laser rifle has an iron sight, not sure how I feel about that, but I'll wait until I get to try it. I do like the ARs better with ironsights (though I didn't think I would), and the laser's sight looks much better.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3119	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:06:00 - [4] - Quote Oooooh, very pretty. I see the laser rifle has an iron sight, not sure how I feel about that, but I'll wait until I get to try it. I do like the ARs better with ironsights (though I didn't think I would), but .
Wasten One-Armed Bandits Hopeless Addiction 0	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:09:00 - [5] - Quote lightening effects have improved
Coyskurk 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:13:00 - [6] - Quote Wasten wrote: lightening effects have improved Yes yes but the overall graphics do look improved. Then again that is also possibly, most likely in fact, the work of the lightening
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 7	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:14:00 - [7] - Quote I just want to have these effects they are great
Emi Love The Southern Legion 0	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:15:00 - [8] - Quote Nice work CCP and for the blog too.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 167	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:21:00 - [9] - Quote Neato!

Renolissa Academy Inferno 51	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:31:00 - [10] - Quote Very cool!

Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 77	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:44:00 - [11] - Quote Sweet. But stop the teasing now. These new graphics clearly show the new build, 7 weeks till fanfest. I'd like to play the new build before I get to Reykjavik and give my thoughts about it directly to you guys in the round tables. So don't be cloy, what are the chances we'll see this before I board the flight from Heathrow? 50%? 60%? 100%? :)
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 223	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:46:00 - [12] - Quote Looks like an Cal assault hand to me :(
TentaclebuckeT Onslaught Inc 1	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:47:00 - [13] - Quote Very nice looking. Is it just me or do the buildings in the screenshots have a bit more flair to them? Particularly in the second pic, they seem to be emanating with an orange glow I have never noticed before.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 143	Posted - 2013.03.08 11:52:00 - [14] - Quote Thank you very much for these dev blogs. It's stuff like this that breathes life into this game.
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 167	Posted - 2013.03.08 12:17:00 - [15] - Quote Looks exactly the same as we have now, it's why all the screenshots to this game do more justice than what is actually displayed These screens are a single frame and dusts problems have mostly stemmed from not having a good frame rate. These are the same effects in game right now and it's all the same stuff we've seen for a year. We never focus on these single frames so you've misrepresented the design bc these effects take multiple frames that have not been added or tweaked What another let down
Gridboss BetaMax. 186	Posted - 2013.03.08 12:44:00 - [16] - Quote Firestorm Zulu wrote: Looks exactly the same as we have now, it's why all the screenshots to this game do more justice than what is actually displayed These screens are a single frame and dusts problems have mostly stemmed from not having a good frame rate. These are the same effects in game right now and it's all the same stuff we've seen for a year. We never focus on these single frames so you've misrepresented the design bc these effects take multiple frames that have not been added or tweaked What another let down No, that's the new graphics that should be coming next build. On a side note, I am really liking the new graphics we can see in these screenshots. However, I don't think screenshots do them justice; what are the chances of short video clips showing the effects? (And on the whole Assault suit with heavy weapons things, there's a third option; the dev taking the screenshots decided to just use a QA/Dev suit based on the Assault model that can use anything. CCP will have to confirm which of the three it is.
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 150	Posted - 2013.03.08 12:49:00 - [17] - Quote Firestorm Zulu wrote: Looks exactly the same as we have now, it's why all the screenshots to this game do more justice than what is actually displayed These screens are a single frame and dusts problems have mostly stemmed from not having a good frame rate. These are the same effects in game right now and it's all the same stuff we've seen for a year. We never focus on these single frames so you've misrepresented the design bc these effects take multiple frames that have not been added or tweaked What another let down I'm pretty sure that Laser Rifle beam is a completely different color...isn't it?
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec 25	Posted - 2013.03.08 12:54:00 - [18] - Quote Nice stuff again. One thought I got looking at the screenshot is about the HMG. I just find it strange that the fire seem to be going sideway, not really exiting the chamber. I would see more something like at 2:26 in this video(center fire more intense in the middle and shape). minigun fire you can also notice the gun heat builtup in that video at 1:48. I am just concerned that if the HMG has fire like in the screenshot, we wont see a thing while shooting.
Mortal Maximus KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 14	Posted - 2013.03.08 12:56:00 - [19] - Quote Hmm, very interesting... so i guess where goin have ambush battles with a 100 clones per side right?
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 393	Posted - 2013.03.08 13:00:00 - [20] - Quote Oh man those screen shots just scream SEX. Can't wait for the new update.

Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 323	Posted - 2013.03.08 13:19:00 - [21] - Quote martinofski wrote: Nice stuff again. One thought I got looking at the screenshot is about the HMG. I just find it strange that the fire seem to be going sideway, not really exiting the chamber. I would see more something like at 2:26 in this video(center fire more intense in the middle and shape). minigun fire you can also notice the gun heat builtup in that video at 1:48. I am just concerned that if the HMG has fire like in the screenshot, we wont see a thing while shooting. Very good point. As one of the only weapons with a real-world analog, they should try to mimic this more closely. That said, I LOVE the plasma cloud effect on the ARs!
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 439	Posted - 2013.03.08 13:27:00 - [22] - Quote The screenshots have always looked crisper, with more dynamic range and contrast than the current version of the game. I hate to be that guy, but the images in the devblog look like our version of the game to me. And the weapons effects are certainly the same. I'm thinking the next step up in visual quality, whenever that happens(not holding breath, tbh), will be a noticeably bigger improvement that what we see in these screenshots.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 3031	Posted - 2013.03.08 13:50:00 - [23] - Quote Please can you give the HMG some form of tracers like... This? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyF0G7g4KfY Vapor Trails isn't cutting it for me on the HMG. Also I would like to direct everyone's attention to the Forge Gun Ammo Counter. Then hands on the HMG and Forge Gun.
Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries 34	Posted - 2013.03.08 14:00:00 - [24] - Quote Maybe the caldari assault with Forge gun is just a placeholder for a new caldari heavy which isnt prepared yet hehe.
Joe1011phosfate Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 0	Posted - 2013.03.08 14:01:00 - [25] - Quote This just feels like a poor attempt at MAG. The graphics are getting better slowly but you guys are pulling in player from all kinds of backgrounds that are turning around and deleting this game because of the graphics and no attchment customization for weapons or cosmetic customization of weapons. CCP has too much control here. Players want to be able to make a Merc their own and unique. This game just looks like what CCP wants to play and a handful of EVE followers. If thats what your goal is more power to you but this game is Free to Play for a reason and that is how gamers are going to look at it. It is free, not dropsuitmodifications by user, no attachments for weapons for a truely custom gameplay feel for the user, the possibilities within a class seem quite naorrow, that's it. I really hope CCP doesn't become know as the company that set out to accomplish something unprecidented and blew it completely. For users that play only Dust, do you really think we care about EVE online? You just created an attached addition for Eve players with a PS3. For gamers that are strictly PS3 gamers you are running at full sprint in the wrong direction. You seriously need to take a few chapters from Call of Duty, Battlfield or hell any game on PS3 that fires a bullet for that matter. This looks like an over-glorified Nova mini from PSN. The best thing I have seen happen that I was so wow'ed about is where yesterday when I logged on I had almost a million unallocated skill points and this was due to a CCP bang up as usual for not counting Passive SP properly.
Mortal Maximus KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 14	Posted - 2013.03.08 14:06:00 - [26] - Quote interesting... a million u say aye?...
Grimmiers ZionTCD Legacy Rising 159	Posted - 2013.03.08 14:41:00 - [27] - Quote Why does ccp always show assaults suits holding forge guns? Are we getting a light variant?
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 226	Posted - 2013.03.08 14:44:00 - [28] - Quote Joe1011phosfate wrote: This just feels like a poor attempt at MAG. The graphics are getting better slowly but you guys are pulling in players from all kinds of backgrounds that are turning around and deleting this game because of the graphics and no attachment customization for weapons or cosmetic customization of weapons. CCP has too much control here. Players want to be able to make a Merc their own and unique. This game just looks like what CCP wants to play and a handful of EVE followers. If thats what your goal is more power to you but this game is Free to Play for a reason and that is how gamers are going to look at it. It is free, not dropsuit modifications by user, no attachments for weapons for a truly custom game play feel for the user, the possibilities within a class seem quite narrow, that's it. I really hope CCP doesn't become know as the company that set out to accomplish something unprecedented and blew it completely. For users that play only Dust, do you really think we care about EVE online? You just created an attached addition for Eve players with a PS3. For gamers that are strictly PS3 gamers you are running at full sprint in the wrong direction. You seriously need to take a few chapters from Call of Duty, Battlefield or hell any game on PS3 that fires a bullet for that matter. This looks like an over-glorified Nova mini from PSN. The best thing I have seen happen that I was so wow'ed about is where yesterday when I logged on I had almost a million unallocated skill points and this was due to a CCP bang up as usual for not counting Passive SP properly. Sorry had to fix that. This isnt MAG or any other shooter. Its Dust. CCP isnt planning on trying to make it for everyone. HTFU dude, you just seem to be complaining for the sake of it lol
Judy Maat Rebelles A Quebec 5	Posted - 2013.03.08 15:01:00 - [29] - Quote Coyskurk wrote: For some strange reason these look like... Improved graphics. It might just be my eyes fooling me though these are PS4 graphic leaked! (jk)
LrDr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2013.03.08 15:39:00 - [30] - Quote Most worse information from any time about DUST. Does fully not meet real ingame situation. Or, baybe , someone play another version of dust? Here real in-game screenshots: plasma from AR - http://imageshack.us/a/img545/143/farzk.jpg laser from LR - http://imageshack.us/a/img24/6153/flrv.jpg lightning from FG - http://imageshack.us/a/img836/3954/ffgw.jpg EPIC REAL FIRE from HMG - http://imageshack.us/a/img259/1474/fhmgx.jpg Quote: We've spent a lot of effort ... - Great! We have brocken LR skils, and only 3 LR & knife. No Amarr heavy weapons & technics, wrong skill description, freaze game, bugs, toons of first-round problems, ... and what? - we do that players not see!



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