I find it lame that Scout is relegated to made-up jobs like 'sniper hunting'. This is because in combat Shotgun scout loses out to everything else except for fish in a barrel like snipers. I've done more than my faire share of whinning on this topic in other threads and over months I think scout with SG has gotten better, probably because of some marginal love from CCP. But recently I noticed that much like proto heavy - upper tier scout is just not competitive/too weak compared to similar tiered suits.

What? This is just a good set up for Sniper hunting. I have great good results with straight up combat scout, just ask those around me. Is the suit UP in terms of fitting? Yes. But UP period? No.

he has not met dtorcale, reflex, calamity, balck eagele and a list of others cant rrecal offhand.. i hate these blanket statements.. plus iirc bojo rock the md with scout.. scout is not UP in any role except scout is not a new player friendly, scout is pro.

scout faces trouble vs AoE's such as explosives but scout has the ability to pick and choose most it's fight, scout is not for the new player tho, scout takes skill and awareness, one day i will evolve to scout. i own alot of scouts with MD but those are mostly the over aggressive ones. scout takes keen awareness of everything. i respect scout

Ah, this explains why there has been an epidemic of that weird springy sound going on. As a Sniper myself, I can contest that this can be a huge annoyance.

And no one in D-UNI showed me this thread? Gee... thanks guys. Letting your top notch sniper fall behind on possible threats.

Bojo, I gotta say, I absolutely love the original post. Gonna have to be more careful on the field now.

What? This is just a good set up for Sniper hunting. I have great good results with straight up combat scout, just ask those around me. Is the suit UP in terms of fitting? Yes. But UP period? No.

he has not met dtorcale, reflex, calamity, balck eagele and a list of others cant rrecal offhand.. i hate these blanket statements.. plus iirc bojo rock the md with scout.. scout is not UP in any role except scout is not a new player friendly, scout is pro.

scout faces trouble vs AoE's such as explosives but scout has the ability to pick and choose most it's fight, scout is not for the new player tho, scout takes skill and awareness, one day i will evolve to scout. i own alot of scouts with MD but those are mostly the over aggressive ones. scout takes keen awareness of everything. i respect scout

Dunno, never played against you. What I see in most games is either scouts are sniping, getting their S kicked, or it's a proto suits beating up on noobs - this is my experience. First of all, are you talking about militia scout in militia mostly matches Or advanced/proto scout in proto-dominated matches, or a scout proto against militia? All those results would be drastically different.

As far as a 'good sniper killing fit' I don't understand the utility of one - honestly. Any suit can wreck havok on snipers if one chooses to run around hills hunting for them. In my mind it's not about a good or bad fit at this point - any fit is enough because snipers are fish in barrel if you sneak up on them, except select few that are outliers.

I find it lame that Scout is relegated to made-up jobs like 'sniper hunting'.

Made up?

Sounds like someone hasn't had to deal with any decent snipers... or multiple snipers working together.

Well, as you know, Arbiter's start with the Scout Sniping BPO Starter Fit.

I find that I have to use Advanced suits mostly to customize the scout to my liking (I have specific tastes), but since I'm so accustomed to A series and Type I that going back to militia just seems ridiculous. But regardless, I still have militia scout fittings that get used on occasion, and my use in the better suits allows me to have foreknowledge of what to prioritize unlike the new players.

The scout suit cannot dodge bullets, would be sweet if it could, but it's just the frail butterfly in the breeze coming to kill you. And the butterfly can kill you in any number of ways, but for every way, there are different actions the butterfly must do in order to kill. The butterfly must think different. The butterfly can't just fly up to your face, the butterfly will get swatted and die. The butterfly uses the wind to push him fastly down your esophagus before you knew it; till you choke.

You can't just run into combat like an assault. Though they can be battlefront fighters. In fact, the most ninja thing I've done with a Scout Suit is completely walking around the map and hacking every single enemy objective, because everyone else was literally fighting over one objectiveless location. I use my scouts in front line combat, a lot of the time. Almost all the time.

I recently had a game where we were getting Proto stomped in a very small Ambush game, and I killed alright (love proto suit matches = money!). I used their key weakness: Shields. That's the mentality a scout should have. Scouts should attack weaknesses, which is why they thrive in stealth combat, as it is a weak area for many to counter. I use my scout controversially with a Mass Driver and Flux nade, primarily good for Heavy hunting, as my mobility is an obstacle for heavies, and I use that to my advantage.

Bojo The Mighty

Damn, when I'm out hunting, I never get to come across you, always the raspberries. And I'm also humbled by a rise in shotgun hills.

Anything that would fly straight into my esophagus is likely just to get swallowed. On a serious note: Sounds like you play smart but don't you think an assault with flux nades and MD would not do better than a scout?

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I am sure someday you have to.. Especially with this 100 match event going on...

If you are going to find me.. I pick area's that require a bit of finesse with the controller to jump to, and usually faces the whole field with a block in the middle. Which enables me to view 1/2 of the field at a time, with my left or right side is obstructed. This is not necessarily the high ground, though.

*The greatest honor ever bestowed on me. Is when I am the sole victim of a precision strike.

But still have much to learn (and am usually squadless, can't mic with people around) that's why I read your threads...

missed one thing my friend, MANUS PEAK!

This deserves a good bump, for the newer players. :D

Also, I retried this fitting, and it's so excellent in Uprising. Idk if it's just the 10% Damage Buff, my increased skill on the battlefield, or the fact that everyone on the opposing team is a dolphin. :D

I fit it with a Minmatar Scout instead of a Gallente though, to get more speed. Plus, I already skilled. :P

Great guide thanks