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Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:55:00 -
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You guys need to stop treating everyone as trespassers in your little GÇ£BubbleGÇ¥, your imaginary world where everything is Role Play, and just plaint stupidity. New people have no idea of you little manufactured world, they don't understand you politics, and GÇ£TrollingGÇ¥ culture. New people is just going to see you like spoiled brats, and unhelpful trolls. That will damage CCP a lot in the long term.
Start been helpful to newcomers, make them feel at home. Explain to new people GÇ£whyGÇ¥ they are wrong, don't insult them because they don't understand how things work in EvE.
Do all that, and the community will became an enjoyable place to be. That will help CCP, and every one else.
I write all this with my best intentions. Take it as you like. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
956
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:02:00 -
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*twitch twitch twitch*
Must... resist... urge to troll.... ARG! :P
All joking aside the DUST community active on the forums is still really small and mostly new. We have an opportunity to help shape what the forums become, what kind of things the community finds acceptable on the forums. |
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SoLJae
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
351
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:02:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:You guys need to stop treating everyone as trespassers in your little GÇ£BubbleGÇ¥, your imaginary world where everything is Role Play, and just plaint stupidity. New people have no idea of you little manufactured world, they don't understand you politics, and GÇ£ TrollingGÇ¥ culture. New people is just going to see you like spoiled brats, and unhelpful trolls. That will damage CCP a lot in the long term. Start been helpful to newcomers, make them feel at home. Explain to new people GÇ£whyGÇ¥ they are wrong, don't insult them because they don't understand how things work in EvE. Do all that, and the community will became an enjoyable place to be. That will help CCP, and every one else. I write all this with my best intentions. Take it as you like.
The funny thing is: That most of the trolls here employ better spelling and grammar than the OP does ;-))
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
208
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:19:00 -
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Trolling is important, and a time honored tradition of game forums. I do help new players. And troll into the ground the downright stupid, or bad posts.
If i troll someone and it makes them actually think about what they've said, so be it.
So HTFU |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
125
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:27:00 -
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what kind of montessori world is this place becoming?
this is a game forums.
it's gonna wind up being just like every other forum on the web. they are all the same.
you go look at: 1. movie forum 2. politics forum 3. video game forum
same thing. different topic. EXCAT same thing. you change the keywords and everything else is the same.
and also:
this game is based in the EvE world. EvE is also known as the "griefers game". it is KNOWN to be a hardcore grieferfest.
and you guys think 514 should adopt some different attitude?
it's gonna be the same here as it is over there.
problem is: the folks over there know what they are doing. and EvE is hard. like so much harder then this game as to almost be a different species.
over here, every codboi knows how to pick up a gun, although most can't tell which end of the gun that the bullet comes out of.
except that's all they know. decades of gaming and folks are still clueless. but you want them to have their backs patted and give them praise just for showing up?
most of the folks you're trying to protect will eventually become the same trolls you're complaining about.
as soon as they figure out how to not suck so much.
Peace B |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University Ivy League
36
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:50:00 -
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SoLJae wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:You guys need to stop treating everyone as trespassers in your little GÇ£BubbleGÇ¥, your imaginary world where everything is Role Play, and just plaint stupidity. New people have no idea of you little manufactured world, they don't understand you politics, and GÇ£ TrollingGÇ¥ culture. New people is just going to see you like spoiled brats, and unhelpful trolls. That will damage CCP a lot in the long term. Start been helpful to newcomers, make them feel at home. Explain to new people GÇ£whyGÇ¥ they are wrong, don't insult them because they don't understand how things work in EvE. Do all that, and the community will became an enjoyable place to be. That will help CCP, and every one else. I write all this with my best intentions. Take it as you like. The funny thing is: That most of the trolls here employ better spelling and grammar than the OP does ;-))
Some of the "trolls" can make very insightful and thought provoking posts (even if it may not show up until page 2 or 3)...the troll behavior seems to come out most when they've seen the same thread posted again for the 100th time...or the thread/post makes utterly no contribution to the community.
But then sure...some do it because they'd rather not be doing something else and get some giggles. *Smirks at FoxFour* |
Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:52:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:
this game is based in the EvE world. EvE is also known as the "griefers game". it is KNOWN to be a hardcore grieferfest.
and you guys think 514 should adopt some different attitude?
it's gonna be the same here as it is over there.
problem is: the folks over there know what they are doing. and EvE is hard. like so much harder then this game as to almost be a different species.
over here, every codboi knows how to pick up a gun, although most can't tell which end of the gun that the bullet comes out of.
except that's all they know. decades of gaming and folks are still clueless. but you want them to have their backs patted and give them praise just for showing up?
most of the folks you're trying to protect will eventually become the same trolls you're complaining about.
as soon as they figure out how to not suck so much.
Peace B
So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ?
You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE.
What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else.
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
208
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:55:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ? You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE. What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else.
Welcome to new eden lol |
Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:05:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ? You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE. What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else. Welcome to new eden lol
I won't say i been feeling " Welcome ".... is more like ; "QQ out of here, blueberry" this is our home!!
And i'm not the only one that feels like that, i'm sure of it.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
405
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:08:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ? You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE. What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else. Welcome to new eden lol I won't say i been feeling " Welcome ".... is more like ; "QQ out of here, blueberry" this is our home!! And i'm not the only one that feels like that, i'm sure of it. When you bring up dead topics and don't use the ******* search they deserve to be trolled |
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Panther Alpha
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:12:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ? You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE. What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else. Welcome to new eden lol I won't say i been feeling " Welcome ".... is more like ; "QQ out of here, blueberry" this is our home!! And i'm not the only one that feels like that, i'm sure of it. When you bring up dead topics and don't use the ******* search they deserve to be trolled
Or.... you could just give people a link to that topic ? you know... try to be Helpful, for once. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
405
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:13:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ? You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE. What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else. Welcome to new eden lol I won't say i been feeling " Welcome ".... is more like ; "QQ out of here, blueberry" this is our home!! And i'm not the only one that feels like that, i'm sure of it. When you bring up dead topics and don't use the ******* search they deserve to be trolled Or.... you could just give people a link to that topic ? you know... try to be Helpful, for once. Or they could use the damn search |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:19:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:*twitch twitch twitch*
Must... resist... urge to troll.... ARG! :P I am stealing this quote and repost whenever I feel the urge! |
Tribalfreak Baham
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:28:00 -
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To the OP. Honestly, while you make decent points, making a thread about trolling is just asking for trolling. assuming people keep this alive along enough, this thread will soon be soaked in gas and one lone soul will pass by with a lit match. In a way, this post is trolling as well, as i'm sure you're aware that something like this would trigger outrage/smarta**ary. It will only serve as an example for people to NOT play the game if they see this. throwing fuel on the fire basically |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
246
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:29:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:*twitch twitch twitch*
Must... resist... urge to troll.... ARG! :P
All joking aside the DUST community active on the forums is still really small and mostly new. We have an opportunity to help shape what the forums become, what kind of things the community finds acceptable on the forums.
Almost halfway to our 2000 like goal before fanfest i see. Are the other devs getting jelly, watch out etern might put a burlap sack over you and throw in the closet, but be vigilent. |
Cortez The Killer
Immobile Infantry
203
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:39:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:
this game is based in the EvE world. EvE is also known as the "griefers game". it is KNOWN to be a hardcore grieferfest.
Griefing is such a dirty word, and a bannable offense IIRC. I prefer "aggressive teaching".
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
126
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:29:00 -
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i only use it as a term of reference for THEM, the casual console gamers, as a standard because it's something they DO know. all the things that make gaming bad are their to protec them from players that they consider "griefers". you and i know em as the cats that are usually pretty friggin good at the game.
i think there should be no redline, FF on, all kindsa stuff that you guys in EvE would take as obvious game mechanics.
over here they have to do those things to protect the casuals.
so much so that even the forums must be moderated. think about that. they hold their hands on the field with a redline that protects them from reality. because lets face it, if your redlined, you lost and really no outta bounds changes that fact. it just prolongs the inevitable. tell your team to all spawn, take a knee and hit the surrender button and it would be over quicker.
but then they actually gotta come hold their hands and censor stuff over here.
and this is all way off the main issue:
how did it get this way? when did gamers become so soft that folks gotta hold their hands all the time? got milk?
Peace B |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
429
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:57:00 -
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To anyone wondering, the OP is the same guy that said DUST 514 wasn't a First Person Shooter.
The reason he got trolled into the ground was because he refused to listen to any viewpoints other than his own and had absolutely nothing to back up his own argument.
Surprise surprise, crap like that makes it so people don't take you seriously. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
449
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:03:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:You guys need to stop treating everyone as trespassers in your little GÇ£BubbleGÇ¥, your imaginary world where everything is Role Play, and just plaint stupidity. New people have no idea of you little manufactured world, they don't understand you politics, and GÇ£ TrollingGÇ¥ culture. New people is just going to see you like spoiled brats, and unhelpful trolls. That will damage CCP a lot in the long term. Start been helpful to newcomers, make them feel at home. Explain to new people GÇ£whyGÇ¥ they are wrong, don't insult them because they don't understand how things work in EvE. Do all that, and the community will became an enjoyable place to be. That will help CCP, and every one else. I write all this with my best intentions. Take it as you like.
LOL we didn't invent trolling. It was part of online vid game forums long before Dust arrived. Maybe you should grow a thick skin? What game do you come from where everyone holds hands and pats each other on the back with no banter?
Serious if they can't take forum trolling there gonna be really hurt when things get real, because compared to EVE trolls we're amatures. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
679
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:04:00 -
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I'm not a huge EvE buff, but I'm almost certain there's a great amount of trolling that occurs over there. So if that's the case, people in DUST need to HTFU. We're mercs, not babies needing a mother to hold our hands.
"Mommy please stop the trolls! QQ"
Not saying I condone trolling a noob asking questions, but in EVERY FPS there are trolls... so what makes DUST different, especially in the EvE universe. |
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Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
449
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:11:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ? You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE. What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else. Welcome to new eden lol I won't say i been feeling " Welcome ".... is more like ; "QQ out of here, blueberry" this is our home!! And i'm not the only one that feels like that, i'm sure of it. When you bring up dead topics and don't use the ******* search they deserve to be trolled Or.... you could just give people a link to that topic ? you know... try to be Helpful, for once.
or you could post the question bothering you instead of this vague and cryptic attempt, if you're gonna QQ and bait ppl, which you're doing now, you're gonna get trolled on any forum. it's just the way it works. we're not gonna dumb down 20 years of forum tradition just so you ppl can feel better.
new eden is a place where the best of the best trolls gather- there will always be civilian casualties in war. |
John Xulu
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
0
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:11:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ? You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE. What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else. Welcome to new eden lol I won't say i been feeling " Welcome ".... is more like ; "QQ out of here, blueberry" this is our home!! And i'm not the only one that feels like that, i'm sure of it.
It's not "New Player" friendly experience. EvE isn't either. That's just New Eden, you find your place or you get out >.> |
Tribalfreak Baham
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:12:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:To anyone wondering, the OP is the same guy that said DUST 514 wasn't a First Person Shooter.
The reason he got trolled into the ground was because he refused to listen to any viewpoints other than his own and had absolutely nothing to back up his own argument.
Surprise surprise, crap like that makes it so people don't take you seriously.
LOL so THAT'S what this thread is about. well then fail on the OP for lacking in understanding in the meaning of a FIRST PERSON shooter. |
General John Ripper
Killshot Corp
50
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:12:00 -
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omg QQ!!! Please nerf the trolls ccp! I am scared.... Hope I didnt wet myself.
Now let me put on my big and scary type 2 suit and gek and pretend to be a tough big boy. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
449
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:19:00 -
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he;s right tho some ppl will be laughed out of new eden, other new ppl have a thick skin/sense of humor and will be able to laugh at themselves, which the establish trolls will embrace. the problem with coddling and grooming noobs is it all goes to their head. they think they know more than the vets, they got something to prove to everyone, any compliment you give them goes to their head, at least from my experience on the mic, so instead they are trolled to keep their minds corralled. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
427
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:20:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:You guys need to stop treating everyone as trespassers in your little GÇ£BubbleGÇ¥, your imaginary world where everything is Role Play, and just plaint stupidity. New people have no idea of you little manufactured world, they don't understand you politics, and GÇ£ TrollingGÇ¥ culture. New people is just going to see you like spoiled brats, and unhelpful trolls. That will damage CCP a lot in the long term. Start been helpful to newcomers, make them feel at home. Explain to new people GÇ£whyGÇ¥ they are wrong, don't insult them because they don't understand how things work in EvE. Do all that, and the community will became an enjoyable place to be. That will help CCP, and every one else. I write all this with my best intentions. Take it as you like. To be quite honest most of the trolling takes place in GD the training grounds and feedback/request are pretty clear. and everyone who's ever been on a forum knows that trolling is part of the culture on them. and a lot of the time the trolling leads to some really interesting discussions even it does end up as a derail. And lets be honest sometimes the trolling is hilarious, did you ever read that "sherrif" thread?
Oh and some devs set a bad example |
John Xulu
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
1
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:24:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:he;s right tho some ppl will be laughed out of new eden, other new ppl have a thick skin/sense of humor and will be able to laugh at themselves, which the establish trolls will embrace. the problem with coddling and grooming noobs is it all goes to their head. they think they know more than the vets, they got something to prove to everyone, any compliment you give them goes to their head, at least from my experience on the mic, so instead they are trolled to keep their minds corralled.
Right. CoD and BF and Halo, made them...So soft, they can't even take a joke at their own expense. Even worse they feel like they shouldn't HAVE to take said joke at their own expense, and would rather rant, and cry on forums. When I saw people hating on the fact that DUST 514 was going to be on console as opposed to PC I thought they were just being PC elitists (most were) but now I see that a lot of the console gamers can't even handle it. A lot (not all) of us can't even take jokes or even sharpen our tongues to have a back and forth banter with people without QQ-ing. Maybe, just maybe, the console gamers aren't mature enough to be a part of New Eden yet. I hope someone can prove me wrong...But I don't know... |
Nenshi
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:30:00 -
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John Xulu wrote:Sobriety Denied wrote:he;s right tho some ppl will be laughed out of new eden, other new ppl have a thick skin/sense of humor and will be able to laugh at themselves, which the establish trolls will embrace. the problem with coddling and grooming noobs is it all goes to their head. they think they know more than the vets, they got something to prove to everyone, any compliment you give them goes to their head, at least from my experience on the mic, so instead they are trolled to keep their minds corralled. Right. CoD and BF and Halo, made them...So soft, they can't even take a joke at their own expense. Even worse they feel like they shouldn't HAVE to take said joke at their own expense, and would rather rant, and cry on forums. When I saw people hating on the fact that DUST 514 was going to be on console as opposed to PC I thought they were just being PC elitists (most were) but now I see that a lot of the console gamers can't even handle it. A lot (not all) of us can't even take jokes or even sharpen our tongues to have a back and forth banter with people without QQ-ing. Maybe, just maybe, the console gamers aren't mature enough to be a part of New Eden yet. I hope someone can prove me wrong...But I don't know...
Right and being a long time console gamer I se this as a means to, stand up, get my mic and say, "BOOM HEADSHOT!!!" |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:31:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:So you assuming that EVERYONE plays EVE, and every one KNOWS about this ? You see... that is the problem. Dust 514 is going to appeal to a different group of people, that most likely never played EvE. What is normal for you guys, is just WEIRD for everyone else. Welcome to new eden lol I won't say i been feeling " Welcome ".... is more like ; "QQ out of here, blueberry" this is our home!! And i'm not the only one that feels like that, i'm sure of it.
oh newberry you have alot to learn, adapt or die if you dont learn about the world your fooling around in, you just wont make it that far. "welcome to new eden" bro! |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
276
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:32:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:To anyone wondering, the OP is the same guy that said DUST 514 wasn't a First Person Shooter.
The reason he got trolled into the ground was because he refused to listen to any viewpoints other than his own and had absolutely nothing to back up his own argument.
Surprise surprise, crap like that makes it so people don't take you seriously. He also said he would that would be the last time he posts on these forums... h'mmm |
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