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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
405
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:09:00 -
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I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build". And I said no way!! We have had this! build for four months and to expect folks to be ok with another six month wait before a new build drops??
Sorry but no. I hope that it was just my imagination but hearing " three to six months for a new build" just really ticked me off and also had me say dude!! PS4 launch by then!! lots of AAA games out by then. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:17:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build". And I said no way!! We have had this! build for four months and to expect folks to be ok with another six month wait before a new build drops??
Sorry but no. I hope that it was just my imagination but hearing " three to six months for a new build" just really ticked me off and also had me say dude!! PS4 launch by then!! lots of AAA games out by then.
There's so many little things they could even fix that I can't imagine would take much time.
I'm looking at you- no war points for drop ship CRU spawning.
Even adding some new maps. Comeon. Its Beta. Not like people will really have room to complain if a few of them have some small bugs.
And if that bug is true about damage mod stacking. Um, comeon. |
General John Ripper
Killshot Corp
44
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:25:00 -
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well this sucks. If everyone stops playing then only the hardcore loyal fans will stay and then this game will be much more competitive with all the noobs gone... Then I wont appear so magnificent when i get epic kill streaks. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
887
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:39:00 -
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Should be less than a month for a new build, they said 3 months ago to expect the new weapons in under a few weeks becuase they could just "stream them in"
So not only do we have no new core features for 3-6 months but we are going to be stuck with the half sized pool of weapons?!?!? why! |
Scalesdini
Universal Allies Inc.
59
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:40:00 -
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Not what was said.
There is a difference between "a new build every three to six months" and "a new build in three to six months".
Holy christ some of you people need valium. |
Syther Shadows
CowTek
11
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:47:00 -
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my response to this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=61339&find=unread |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:48:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:We have had this! build for four months We've had this build for little more than two months. Though, it feels like at least four months.
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Nexus Tau
Nox Aeterna Security
23
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:50:00 -
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I don't think we need to wait long for the next build. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
677
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:52:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build". And I said no way!! We have had this! build for four months and to expect folks to be ok with another six month wait before a new build drops??
Sorry but no. I hope that it was just my imagination but hearing " three to six months for a new build" just really ticked me off and also had me say dude!! PS4 launch by then!! lots of AAA games out by then.
We have had this build for one month and 18 days. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:54:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build". And I said no way!! We have had this! build for four months and to expect folks to be ok with another six month wait before a new build drops??
Sorry but no. I hope that it was just my imagination but hearing " three to six months for a new build" just really ticked me off and also had me say dude!! PS4 launch by then!! lots of AAA games out by then. We have had this build for one month and 18 days. Again wrong. There were no new build with the TQ move.
Current build is from 17-20th December (I'm not sure about the exact date).
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
677
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:59:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build". And I said no way!! We have had this! build for four months and to expect folks to be ok with another six month wait before a new build drops??
Sorry but no. I hope that it was just my imagination but hearing " three to six months for a new build" just really ticked me off and also had me say dude!! PS4 launch by then!! lots of AAA games out by then. We have had this build for one month and 18 days. Again wrong. There were no new build with the TQ move. Current build is from 17-20th December (I'm not sure about the exact date).
Next time you sign in look at how long you been with you corp, because all corp members had to rejoin after the build. It was not a content/feature build, it was a bugs and glitches build, but it was considered a new build. So, one month and eighteen days we have had this build |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:01:00 -
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I think they may be counting codex and chromosome as the same build. Chromosome was mostly bug fixes, not much shiny stuff. That could be the 4 month count, back to when codex was released in October.
There was a wipe without new build on Jan 10th, new build that was mostly bug fixes was about 2 weeks before that. So, about 2 months on this build, about 4 since major content added.
3-6 mounths between builds would put next one in month or two, maybe released to coincide with fan fest somehow though. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:04:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build". And I said no way!! We have had this! build for four months and to expect folks to be ok with another six month wait before a new build drops??
Sorry but no. I hope that it was just my imagination but hearing " three to six months for a new build" just really ticked me off and also had me say dude!! PS4 launch by then!! lots of AAA games out by then. We have had this build for one month and 18 days. Again wrong. There were no new build with the TQ move. Current build is from 17-20th December (I'm not sure about the exact date). Next time you sign in look at how long you been with you corp, because all corp members had to rejoin after the build. It was not a content/feature build, it was a bugs and glitches build, but it was considered a new build. So, one month and eighteen days we have had this build Chromosome was deployed on 17-20th December. We had a reset with the TQ move hence why your character is less than two months old. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
677
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:08:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:I think they may be counting codex and chromosome as the same build. Chromosome was mostly bug fixes, not much shiny stuff. That could be the 4 month count, back to when codex was released in October.
There was a wipe without new build on Jan 10th, new build that was mostly bug fixes was about 2 weeks before that. So, about 2 months on this build, about 4 since major content added.
3-6 mounths between builds would put next one in month or two, maybe released to coincide with fan fest somehow though.
Chromosome was a seperate build, that's why it had patch notes. Technically it was like you said the same build as codex in terms of content, but it was most deffinatly a new build. So we are overdue a new build as the frequency of all build this past year have been every 6-8 weeks, we are currently almost at week 7 |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
677
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:11:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build". And I said no way!! We have had this! build for four months and to expect folks to be ok with another six month wait before a new build drops??
Sorry but no. I hope that it was just my imagination but hearing " three to six months for a new build" just really ticked me off and also had me say dude!! PS4 launch by then!! lots of AAA games out by then. We have had this build for one month and 18 days. Again wrong. There were no new build with the TQ move. Current build is from 17-20th December (I'm not sure about the exact date). Next time you sign in look at how long you been with you corp, because all corp members had to rejoin after the build. It was not a content/feature build, it was a bugs and glitches build, but it was considered a new build. So, one month and eighteen days we have had this build Chromosome was deployed on 17-20th December. We had a reset with the TQ move hence why your character is less than two months old. Yeah that's my bad, I forgot about the TQ move/reset. I apologize bro. But I stick to what I said about chromosome being a new build |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.02.28 08:38:00 -
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That 3-6 months major content build release schedule isn't bad. It's actually fairly quick one. Now IF that DEV comment in IGN was that next content update is 3-6months from THIS date, then it's alarming.
But I highly doubt that and would err on the side that listener misunderstood the comment and it's timeframe; to be starting from this day as opposed to from last major build.
Here is a quote from CSM minutes, now that they have finally releaced with including DUST sections.
Quote:"CCP's release cadence was averaging once every three months for major build updates, with the capability of smaller content uploads that don't require Sony approval that add things like new maps and new weapons and new game modes to Singularity in between the major releases" source: http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2012/CSM_CCP_Meetings_December_2012.pdf
Things to note in that document and that quote, is that thae meeting was held in December 2012, so it still references DUST being in Singularity. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
207
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:40:00 -
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Regardless of the time frame or the age of the Chromosome build, the game desperately needs new content. I love dust as much as anybody but its really starting to get stale. |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:45:00 -
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KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Regardless of the time frame or the age of the Chromosome build, the game desperately needs new content. I love dust as much as anybody but its really starting to get stale.
With that I can absolutely agree on. And I would presume all agrees on this. |
Bald Crusader
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.02.28 10:49:00 -
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KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Regardless of the time frame or the age of the Chromosome build, the game desperately needs new content. I love dust as much as anybody but its really starting to get stale. I think this is just the nut of the discussion, but still not the complete picture.
A game doesn't need a mountain of content to stop being stale in beta. I can think of other wildly popular shooters that went through beta with only one or two maps. It's the game play and design that make it. It doesn't even have to be that pretty.
The problem with DUST is the game just doesn't deliver on so many levels. It's been a completely over-hyped disappointment. Far too long in development and leans far too heavily on the promise of integration with EVE but delivers very little. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
73
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:08:00 -
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Well i rather wait a long time for a good decent new build then get a constant stream of new maps, regardless of the map, all it comes down to is shooting the other guy in the face and that mechanic is unlikely to change.
Though i wouldn't mind getting to know this Skirmish 1.0 everyone in beta is talking about. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
570
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:26:00 -
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CCP Pokethulhu meant 3-6 months between builds. This current build launched in mid December so it's been just over 2 months. |
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Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:27:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build".
I'm now watching the recording of that IGN live gameplay/discussion and that comment OP quoted from David Reid, the CCP Marketing guy, isn't a answer to question of when we can expect the next content update to be deployed..
That 3-6 months was his answer to live feed question of, "How often we can expect content updates and will they be tied into EVE content updates? "
Reid's answer was "Right now we are looking at is somewhere betwene quarterly and a semi-anual basis - every three months to six months - we expect to having big content updates coming out. "
Question was asked when we can expect next big content update to arrive and Reid's answer to that was along the lines of "In the next quarter", meaning Q2 of 2013, April - June time frame. That puts it into 1 month - 3 months time frame.
My bet would be one of two point releases and then big content update at Fanfest at the end of April. |
3 bird
DUST University Ivy League
90
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:30:00 -
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Just thinking, when is the summer expansion of EvE on-line set for?
If I remember right its always been around April/May/June time. Its almost march now which would put us close to the 3 month mark. And I have a feeling there will be some changes to FW in both Dust and EvE, but to get them working it would make sense to launch both new builds at the same time...
Add to that April/May/June would be in-line with 3-6 months from the last build for Dust514....
It makes sense in my head anyway. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
31
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:38:00 -
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Hmmm...CCP is hosting the EVE Fanfest event in Iceland at the end of April...It wouldn't make any sense to release a major update to coincide with the such a special and unique event....right? :) |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:39:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:CCP Pokethulhu meant 3-6 months between builds. This current build launched in mid December so it's been just over 2 months.
I think part of the frustration is Chromosome was mostly a stability/balance build and didn't really add any new content. And since it was roughly 2 months prior to Chromosome that we got a new build, it's now been over 4 months since any significant changes.
With 2 game modes (OMS and regular Ambush are the same thing, let's be honest) and the same 4 or so maps, it's getting stale; to hear 3 to 6 months between builds is a little worrying. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
652
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:40:00 -
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Putting Fanfest before fans |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion
51
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:43:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I was watching the IGN livestream and I noticed that the CCP Dev. said "three to six months for a new build".
I'm now watching the recording of that IGN live gameplay/discussion and that comment OP quoted from David Reid, the CCP Marketing guy, isn't a answer to question of when we can expect the next content update to be deployed.. That 3-6 months was his answer to live feed question of, "How often we can expect content updates and will they be tied into EVE content updates? " Reid's answer was "Right now we are looking at is somewhere betwene quarterly and a semi-anual basis - every three months to six months - we expect to having big content updates coming out. " Question was asked when we can expect next big content update to arrive and Reid's answer to that was along the lines of "In the next quarter", meaning Q2 of 2013, April - June time frame. That puts it into 1 month - 3 months time frame. My bet would be one of two point releases and then big content update at Fanfest at the end of April.
Seriously guys, this ^^.
I had been meaning to make this point but hadn't gotten around to it, thank you. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
952
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:45:00 -
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4447 wrote:Putting Fanfest before fans
Not sure you understand what FanFest is about. FanFest is always been about the fans. |
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
31
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:47:00 -
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4447 wrote:Putting Fanfest before fans
If I was going to release a HUGE update that added tonnes of content, game modes and DUST/EVE integration, I would rather launch it around FanFest time. That's just my OCDness though. When you consider that there will be heaps of keynotes and presentations made at FanFest, it gives CCP the chance to release all that info and explain it in a timely manner. :) Not too far away pal, just shy of 2 months...and I may be wrong. |
HUGO SHTIGLETZ
RestlessSpirits
16
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:48:00 -
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yeah fanfest is the CCP show and tell hall, whenever you do show and tell you wanna have the coolest most crowed shocking thing that just impresses everyone...
theyre probably holding off as long as possible getting as much into the next build as they can so they just blow people away at fanfest...
i dont care how long it takes i just want it... grass finally |
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
31
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:50:00 -
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I heard we are getting the level 4 Orbital Bombardments that can destroy planets next build.
Well...I didn't really...but make it happen CCP! :D
No, don't...we're not ready...
:D |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
652
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:51:00 -
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What i'm saying is you making us wait for the next major update because of FanFest.
Many players in Dust 514 know about FanFest but don't really care because we're new to the scene. To me FanFest is, "look what i've done daddy!"
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
444
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:52:00 -
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Fanfest is for the people who are to EVE/DUST fans what EVE/DUST fans are to normal people. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
31
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:54:00 -
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4447 wrote:What i'm saying is you making us wait for the next major update because of FanFest. Many players in Dust 514 know about FanFest but don't really care because we're new to the scene. To me FanFest is, "look what i've done daddy!"
You should care! There will be a sheetstorm of new info coming. If it is like last year, there will be some juicy keynotes to sink our teeth into. :D |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
787
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:00:00 -
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You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff. |
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HUGO SHTIGLETZ
RestlessSpirits
16
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:01:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff. where? |
Cobus Venter
Commando Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:01:00 -
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I thought it was generally accepted that making a video game takes a lot of time and a lot of money. These things don't just manifest themselves perfectly balanced and ready for implementation, especially when they're being used for a notoriously vitriolic community. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:02:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:
You should care! There will be a sheetstorm of new info coming. If it is like last year, there will be some juicy keynotes to sink our teeth into. :D
I'm actually trying to remember back to last year's FanFest--I didn't attend, but I watched most of the Dust stuff online. Just off the top of my head, I can only remember two things that were presented as "this is what we're working on and you should be excited about":
1. PvE with a funny action-figure mock-up of how it would look.
2. Orbital strikes from EVE directly into Dust (real-time).
We have OBs now and they're cool from a technical standpoint, but we haven't progressed beyond the OB in really any way--like being able to fire back from the ground, for example.
We don't have PvE and, despite having it in the Open Beta launch trailer, we have no idea when it'll be coming.
If this is what we have to look forward to again, just a bunch of cool stuff we won't see until far, far down the line, then FanFest is just going to make me like the game less because of the reminder of how good it could be, yet how mediocre it is because of extremely slow development.
EDIT: I'm sure there was more, and I'd love to talk about how we probably don't have any of that either. |
HUGO SHTIGLETZ
RestlessSpirits
16
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:03:00 -
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Cobus Venter wrote:I thought it was generally accepted that making a video game takes a lot of time and a lot of money. These things don't just manifest themselves perfectly balanced and ready for implementation, especially when they're being used for a notoriously vitriolic community. +1 for honesty |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
652
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:12:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff.
CCP Give us a major update now. when it comes to FanFest just talk about this is where we are, and this is where we're going. The fans you're talking to at FanFest is going to be EVE players. |
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
408
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:58:00 -
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CCP, a good delaying tactic would be one, just one, new map. If you're feeling crazy, make it two new maps. The broken skirmish map from replication would keep peeps happy-happy until then too. ;)
Presto! Whinge level reduced 40-60 per cent, enough to take us to fanfest. |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:01:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:CCP, a good delaying tactic would be one, just one, new map. If you're feeling crazy, make it two new maps. The broken skirmish map from replication would keep peeps happy-happy until then too. ;)
Presto! Whinge level reduced 40-60 per cent, enough to take us to fanfest.
and maybe those 3 guns you said we were getting, what ever happened to them ? |
Ire's thug
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
274
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:52:00 -
[43] - Quote
Hahahaha! The only beta testing you'll get from me until a substantial build comes out is forum lurking. I imagine most people feel the same way. Its to bad I played this game to much and got burned out because of the copious amounts of NOTHING TO DO in the game. Guess I'm going to wait until your "walk" catches up with your talk. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:57:00 -
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Ire's thug wrote:Hahahaha! The only beta testing you'll get from me until a substantial build comes out is forum lurking. I imagine most people feel the same way. Its to bad I played this game to much and got burned out because of the copious amounts of NOTHING TO DO in the game. Guess I'm going to wait until your "walk" catches up with your talk.
I have two hundred contacts in my list and 40 of them are still sitting at 0 kills, 0 wp and 0 deaths. I guess some folks made good on the no play until new content.
I guess I will also cut my Dust 514 playtime today in favor of Borderlands 2. |
HUGO SHTIGLETZ
RestlessSpirits
19
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:07:00 -
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watched the IGN video and was amazed by how little was even talked about 99.99% i already knew from previous videos even... and yes i know the purpose of it was just to help get the game out there but it was the first thing CCP did in several months that was public, just thought they could have done more honestly.
a few things made me scratch my head and think tho like weapon customization... i thought they had this done but was a task to implement... in video he said no but it was a good idea... which DEV knows whats going on there because this guy basically announced that it has in fact not been worked on.
but in the video he said new build in this quarter... sooo... it ant be to far away... hopefully. |
Spaceman-Rob
Galactic Alliance 514
65
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:11:00 -
[46] - Quote
We got a new build today, 2 extra game modes right |
HUGO SHTIGLETZ
RestlessSpirits
19
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:13:00 -
[47] - Quote
no, two maps that weve already played somewhere else added to ambush oms.... not actual "NEW" maps |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
116
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:18:00 -
[48] - Quote
HUGO SHTIGLETZ wrote:
a few things made me scratch my head and think tho like weapon customization... i thought they had this done but was a task to implement... in video he said no but it was a good idea... which DEV knows whats going on there because this guy basically announced that it has in fact not been worked on.
The guy on the video was David Reid. He's the CMO(Chief Marketing Officer) of CCP games. So gameplay and design things aren't his area of expertice and frankly they shouldn't be. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
445
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Posted - 2013.02.28 14:22:00 -
[49] - Quote
Spaceman-Rob wrote:We got a new build today, 2 extra game modes right That's not a build.
Edit: To clarify, there might be some new building on the maps, but that's not the same as a new build. |
Bald Crusader
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:08:00 -
[50] - Quote
It's a marketing tool used to generate some hype as much as being about fans.
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Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
99
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Posted - 2013.02.28 19:04:00 -
[51] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote: That's not a build.
Edit: To clarify, there might be some new building on the maps, but that's not the same as a new build.
Sure, it's not a build. But it's more content, which has been the prevailing gripe throughout this thread. My desire to play OMS has quite algebraically doubled now. Give 'em some credit.
Compared to most companies, CCP are saints on the content release schedule. Just look at how long it took Bethesda to get their act together. What's more: you aren't paying for any stupid map packs.
IMO: 3-6 months is perfectly reasonable, but the greatest sin CCP can commit is silence. And they had been committing that sin an awful lot until this last week.
So keep up the communication Devs! You guys are still back-logged on whining and rage, but we'll get the last of it out soon enough and get back to providing useful ideas and balance/bug comments.
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Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
1031
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:09:00 -
[52] - Quote
Oh god.
If we learned anything from Eve Online -DON'T DO QUARTERLY-
Seriously, I know half of the forums here are going to complain and rage about what I'm about to say but it's okay because I'm not going to read the responses.
Keep it to a semi-annual basis, don't repeat Eve Online's mistakes |
From Costa Rica
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
66
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:12:00 -
[53] - Quote
So, you all want day one DLC... cause that is what i am reading. And for free? Not even COD can do that so chilllllll the kitten down... CCP great work keep em comming....
Tell you what , you want the development team to hurry and get things better, faster, and nicer???? BUY STUFF so they can hire new and more talented people (not saying that the current devs are not talented, you can do stuff i could never do). Make it rain boys, i bet that if we all buy 100$ of AUR they-¦ll give us the ability to hop on a ship, get to the navigation room and shoot the capsuleer in the head withing 5 months or hijack a titan class ship XD.
Or we could just give the money to CCP FOXFOUR and leave all the work on his shoulders. |
Project Alpha Omega
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
0
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:23:00 -
[54] - Quote
Adding more fuel to the pay to win fire isn't going to get them to use more human resources on a title that's about as featureless an open beta I've ever seen. Dust would greatly benefit from quarterly updates in it's current state, else it will die a death inside of 6 months. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
300
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:27:00 -
[55] - Quote
From Costa Rica wrote:So, you all want day one DLC... cause that is what i am reading.
No, what we are all waiting for is the actual content. We've all been playing through the same very limited test content, helping test one gameplay and stability release after another. We're waiting for the full range of racial dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles. We're waiting for a wide variety of temperate world maps to play on. Waiting for land ownership in a persistent world to have a reason to fight.
An expansion or DLC would be adding more world types to fight on, one or more types of PVE, or something like combat on stations or ships.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
300
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:29:00 -
[56] - Quote
Project Alpha Omega wrote:Adding more fuel to the pay to win fire isn't going to get them to use more human resources on a title that's about as featureless an open beta I've ever seen. Dust would greatly benefit from quarterly updates in it's current state, else it will die a death inside of 6 months.
DUST is closer to a real software beta than what other games advertise as a beta, which are really just early access releases to make sure the servers won't catch on fire.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:39:00 -
[57] - Quote
Reav Hannari wrote:Project Alpha Omega wrote:Adding more fuel to the pay to win fire isn't going to get them to use more human resources on a title that's about as featureless an open beta I've ever seen. Dust would greatly benefit from quarterly updates in it's current state, else it will die a death inside of 6 months. DUST is closer to a real software beta than what other games advertise as a beta, which are really just early access releases to make sure the servers won't catch on fire.
That's a cop out. They are using beta to protect the game from negative review despite being commercially released. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:49:00 -
[58] - Quote
pretty sure he said at the end of this quarter, considering were still in Q1(March,31 being the end of this quarter) we can expect it sometime next month before fanfest(like they originally said they were going to release it.)
unless he spoke wrong and isnt aware when this quarter ends, then i'd expect it to be release in Q2(April,May,June)
Scalesdini wrote:
Holy christ some of you people need valium.
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Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
205
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Posted - 2013.02.28 23:10:00 -
[59] - Quote
What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. |
trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
28
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Posted - 2013.02.28 23:29:00 -
[60] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:CCP Pokethulhu meant 3-6 months between builds. This current build launched in mid December so it's been just over 2 months. So.... a 1-4 month wait for the next? This games cannot survive that long on what is in game right now without some serious content updates. This game will empty out quicker than a pizza box at a weight watchers convention if they realize that there will be no new content for anywhere from 1-4 months.
So.... unless you mean AFTER the next build it will be that long between builds, and the new build is a HUGE update, you might want to keep it to yourself how far away the next build will be.
.....oh wait.... |
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trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
29
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Posted - 2013.02.28 23:37:00 -
[61] - Quote
Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc.
The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers.
But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
889
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:29:00 -
[62] - Quote
Yeah I'm expecting the playerbase to drop off for a while soon, like it did every other build |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:35:00 -
[63] - Quote
trollface dot jpg wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc. The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers. But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't.
The game's released. Beta is a tag to keep reviewers silent. But we are commercially released, aka full launch. |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:52:00 -
[64] - Quote
inb4 Dust is dying |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
889
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:36:00 -
[65] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc. The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers. But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't. The game's released. Beta is a tag to keep reviewers silent. But we are commercially released, aka full launch.
You're not a dev, reported for spreading rumors
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
683
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:38:00 -
[66] - Quote
trollface dot jpg wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc. The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers. But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't.
Hey man, did you manage to sort out the problem with the LAV code? |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
209
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:54:00 -
[67] - Quote
trollface dot jpg wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc. The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers. But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't.
I repeat what game gives you new content and hotfixes every three to six months for free. Not an iterpretation of free but the real world meaning of free as in no money exchanging hands??
But you knew that right? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1221
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:00:00 -
[68] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc. The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers. But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't. The game's released. Beta is a tag to keep reviewers silent. But we are commercially released, aka full launch. Nocs gonna Noc. |
trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
29
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:19:00 -
[69] - Quote
Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc. The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers. But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't. I repeat what game gives you new content and hotfixes every three to six months for free. Not an iterpretation of free but the real world meaning of free as in no money exchanging hands?? But you knew that right? Maybe I wasn't clear. This is the beta for a game. Meaning it is a limited test version of an actual game, not the game itself. When it is actually released, then yes, you can make that statement. Until it is, this is not a game,it is a beta. So when and if we get updates has nothing to do with customer service and everything to do with keeping the interest of the people who are helping you (for free) to make a game.
That's what I was referring to, but I suppose you missed that after all. |
trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
29
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:21:00 -
[70] - Quote
tribal wyvern wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc. The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers. But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't. Hey man, did you manage to sort out the problem with the LAV code? No... I've checked my assets, still not there. I'll have to try PShome again and see if I can get another code, just been busy today. |
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Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
47
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:45:00 -
[71] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff.
Unfortunately you are talking to a bunch of console players who want everything here and now. It's the nature of the beast when dealing with these fickle people. They play a game for five months and then move on. They aren't used to sticking with a game and watching it evolve. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2013.03.01 03:11:00 -
[72] - Quote
in b4 DUST is dieing |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
212
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Posted - 2013.03.01 03:24:00 -
[73] - Quote
Dalton Smithe wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff. Unfortunately you are talking to a bunch of console players who want everything here and now. It's the nature of the beast when dealing with these fickle people. They play a game for five months and then move on. They aren't used to sticking with a game and watching it evolve.
Lolno. Exactly the opposite. Some of us have been playing 'versions' of dust for nearly a year now. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
670
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Posted - 2013.03.01 04:26:00 -
[74] - Quote
3-6 months in between new content is fine for a game that actually has... ALOT OF CONTENT.
The last build was for stability and polish.
The last build where we actually received new content was E3 (i think). E3... And it wasn't much.
Idea... CCP FoxFour since you are the talkative one of the bunch. Ask them to release SOME information about what kind of content we have coming in the new build. This kind of information might satisfy the savages.
If its only 2 maps and those 3 guns that were talked about a month ago... Time for a different FPS.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2013.03.01 06:50:00 -
[75] - Quote
Cyn Bruin wrote: 3-6 months in between new content is fine for a game that actually has... ALOT OF CONTENT.
The last build was for stability and polish.
The last build where we actually received new content was E3 (i think). E3... And it wasn't much.
Idea... CCP FoxFour since you are the talkative one of the bunch. Ask them to release SOME information about what kind of content we have coming in the new build. This kind of information might satisfy the savages.
If its only 2 maps and those 3 guns that were talked about a month ago... Time for a different FPS.
Agreed. If the new content comes out and its just one map and one gun then Dust 514 playtime is going to be cut for a lot of folks.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1171
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:05:00 -
[76] - Quote
crazy space 1 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Just want to point out, it's not a released game yet. We are testers who are paid by having access to the game early in exchange for pointing out issues they left laying about, providing feedback on how best to fix those issues, giving feedback on the balance and stability of the build, etc. The updates and hotfixes are unnecessary in order for us to test new things for them. If they don't provide enough content (read: payment) to keep our interest, people here will begin to wander elsewhere. And in turn, CCP begins to lose public interest as well as free beta testers. But you knew that. I only mentioned it because you didn't. The game's released. Beta is a tag to keep reviewers silent. But we are commercially released, aka full launch. You're not a dev, reported for spreading rumors
Would love to see a dev deny it. |
Bald Crusader
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:08:00 -
[77] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff. For EVE John, for EVE.
For Dust you don't yet have any track record and it's not like these are free. The whole game is already free. It's not like you will make older players pony up in the P2W shop to get what a new player would.
CCP may have ambitions, but honestly and with all due respect you aren't really in a position to know - just like us.
I doubt your role would command knowledge of such corporate plans beyond public domain intent. |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die
107
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Posted - 2013.03.01 07:36:00 -
[78] - Quote
Dalton Smithe wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff. Unfortunately you are talking to a bunch of console players who want everything here and now. It's the nature of the beast when dealing with these fickle people. They play a game for five months and then move on. They aren't used to sticking with a game and watching it evolve.
*rolls eyes* Whatever. I play both consoles and PCs. Hell, I stuck with the Civilization franchise for *years* before moving on, and now I might go back to it, too.
Stereotyping is such a childish and immature thing to do. So, unless you're a child, shame on you, Dalton. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
447
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Posted - 2013.03.01 09:07:00 -
[79] - Quote
Bald Crusader wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff. For EVE John, for EVE. For Dust you don't yet have any track record and it's not like these are free. The whole game is already free. It's not like you will make older players pony up in the P2W shop to get what a new player would. CCP may have ambitions, but honestly and with all due respect you aren't really in a position to know - just like us. I doubt your role would command knowledge of such corporate plans beyond public domain intent. CCP: ... and in addition to our internal corporate 10-year plan for the development of both EVE and DUST, we have short and medium term development plans in place. The hundreds of developers split over several continents each focus on...
Bald Crusader: For EVE John, for EVE.
CCP: ...
Me: Never go full ****** Mr. Bald, never go full. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
38
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Posted - 2013.03.01 09:41:00 -
[80] - Quote
Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Dota 2? |
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trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
32
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Posted - 2013.03.01 12:20:00 -
[81] - Quote
Rupture Reaperson wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:What other game gives you new content every 3-6 months plus hotfixes for free?
None. Dota 2? (Also heroes of newerth before League of Legends ****** it all up) Shut your mouth. Oh the ironies in this thread, im flabbergasted. lulz |
Gelan Corbaine
BetaMax.
106
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Posted - 2013.03.01 18:16:00 -
[82] - Quote
Cyn Bruin wrote: 3-6 months in between new content is fine for a game that actually has... ALOT OF CONTENT.
The last build was for stability and polish.
The last build where we actually received new content was E3 (i think). E3... And it wasn't much.
Idea... CCP FoxFour since you are the talkative one of the bunch. Ask them to release SOME information about what kind of content we have coming in the new build. This kind of information might satisfy the savages.
If its only 2 maps and those 3 guns that were talked about a month ago... Time for a different FPS.
E3 we only had old Ashland Skirmish 1.0 . (Biomass and Coms were deactivated. ) 1 map only one and we had to fight on it for MONTHS. With free vehicles ! HMG's that blew up before you even pulled the trigger ! RE mania ! Creodrons Creodrons Creodrons and more Creodrons (other weapons ? what's that those other weak rifles or crappy Shotgun or Massdriver ? LOL! well I guess smg is cool.)
We come a LONG way from E3 with major changes since then . |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
673
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Posted - 2013.03.01 19:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Gelan Corbaine wrote: E3 we only had old Ashland Skirmish 1.0 . (Biomass and Coms were deactivated. ) 1 map only one and we had to fight on it for MONTHS. With free vehicles ! HMG's that blew up before you even pulled the trigger ! RE mania ! Creodrons Creodrons Creodrons and more Creodrons (other weapons ? what's that those other weak rifles or crappy Shotgun or Massdriver ? LOL! well I guess smg is cool.)
We come a LONG way from E3 with major changes since then .
Yes I was in beta and drudging through the lack of content then as well. As I said in previous threads, it has taken a year to make this game a stable (sometimes), average FPS. On the other hand the SP system is fantastic.
But it is still just an avg shooter after 3-4 years of development? And the above described in your quote isn't new content, as I said, name the new content past the E3 build they have added?
I am not bashing the game, it's very addictive. Look at my posting history in the past, it's been nothing but praise.
I am saying the lack of content put out is ridiculously low. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
415
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Posted - 2013.03.01 22:23:00 -
[84] - Quote
Noc Tempre wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Project Alpha Omega wrote:Adding more fuel to the pay to win fire isn't going to get them to use more human resources on a title that's about as featureless an open beta I've ever seen. Dust would greatly benefit from quarterly updates in it's current state, else it will die a death inside of 6 months. DUST is closer to a real software beta than what other games advertise as a beta, which are really just early access releases to make sure the servers won't catch on fire. That's a cop out. They are using beta to protect the game from negative review despite being commercially released. Some peeps see engineering as politics. Some peeps see engineering as engineering. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
895
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Posted - 2013.03.01 22:35:00 -
[85] - Quote
Vrain Matari wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Project Alpha Omega wrote:Adding more fuel to the pay to win fire isn't going to get them to use more human resources on a title that's about as featureless an open beta I've ever seen. Dust would greatly benefit from quarterly updates in it's current state, else it will die a death inside of 6 months. DUST is closer to a real software beta than what other games advertise as a beta, which are really just early access releases to make sure the servers won't catch on fire. That's a cop out. They are using beta to protect the game from negative review despite being commercially released. Some peeps see engineering as politics. Some peeps see engineering as engineering. you are my hero haha |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
421
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Posted - 2013.03.10 10:37:00 -
[86] - Quote
Still no new content updates. Lets see if another month brings a new content update?? |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
60
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Posted - 2013.03.10 11:46:00 -
[87] - Quote
Quill Killian wrote:Dalton Smithe wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:You guys should also keep in mind that while the three to six months means between full expansions. We tend to put out point releases between expansions that contain additional fixes, changes, and other stuff. Unfortunately you are talking to a bunch of console players who want everything here and now. It's the nature of the beast when dealing with these fickle people. They play a game for five months and then move on. They aren't used to sticking with a game and watching it evolve. *rolls eyes* Whatever. I play both consoles and PCs. Hell, I stuck with the Civilization franchise for *years* before moving on, and now I might go back to it, too. Stereotyping is such a childish and immature thing to do. So, unless you're a child, shame on you, Dalton.
That comment was meant for the class I was talking about, sorry if you took offence . I play PC and console games too...I just know there are more than a few that play dust that are exactly the type I mentioned in my earlier post. |
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