DUST Search - Vehicles without turrets

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:

I do like this idea, don't get it wrong. I've personally wanted to do that since the days of small missile turrets days of reign. I wanted to replace my large turret with small missile (as it felt better and earlier I had way better skills to them than larges).

BUT HOWEVER
This would make balancing the vehicles way more difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.
At the moment there's quite a small range of PG/CPU you are operating in. Having default turrets (even when replaced by meta1) they effectively lessen tanks max PG/CPU.

If removed, tanks would have more PG/CPU and therefore would be able to easily fit superior protection at the same time with superior weapons.
I dare to say there would be no more room for 3 gun tank on the battlefield. Well you could choose to use it, this is a sandbox after all.

Point is: Currently tank pilots have to make tough choices to make their fits, they can't have all. Removing turrets would open the door for no-brainer fits.

But think of the fits we could have

Taking off the 2 small turrets yes may allow more tank or a better main turret but you lose that turret slot and the guy in the seat cannot spin around on the top turret and look behind the tank so you lose a set of eyes

You also lose that little bit of extra DPS or the ability to make the AV guy run away for cover

Dropships would be more tank and act more like a flying APC if they wish so they survive for longer and are more useful for squads at least

You have no turrets at all you may have a bigger tank but you have no offensive capabilitys at all

For vehicle warfare it would totally change it and expand it in so many ways, CB with tanks wouldnt be the same and i think it would help with the annoyances of pub matches aswell

The tough choices would be what tank you choose to bring out, its not like a dropsuit we dont have a garage to change tanks, we have that tough choice now but its really down to 2-3 tanks max at best, maybe 5 if with your tank crew but overall it would be tougher if we had more tanks available to use

Plus we dont have amarr/minmatar tanks or the arty/AC or lazer turrets yet

I think we should have the choice, EVE can do it so DUST should have it

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Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 23	Posted - 2013.03.07 19:23:00 - [31] - Quote I would love to have a very heavily armored vehicle that is extremely difficult to destroy but has very little in offensive capability. A complete transport vehicle for the entire team.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 126	Posted - 2013.03.09 13:57:00 - [32] - Quote I want my turretless tank CCP
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 128	Posted - 2013.03.11 13:19:00 - [33] - Quote Bump
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:18:00 - [34] - Quote BUMP
Daniel Dickinson Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:32:00 - [35] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atm you cannot have a vehicle without any turrets You cannot have a HAV with just 1 large turret and 1 small turret Its my vehicle CCP, i want to be able to drive a HAV hull with no turrets on it whatsoever for whatever reason and the same with LAV/Dropships Make it so that's not how this game is played i would like to see more guns not less
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:35:00 - [36] - Quote Daniel Dickinson wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atm you cannot have a vehicle without any turrets You cannot have a HAV with just 1 large turret and 1 small turret Its my vehicle CCP, i want to be able to drive a HAV hull with no turrets on it whatsoever for whatever reason and the same with LAV/Dropships Make it so that's not how this game is played i would like to see more guns not less I want to play it with less guns, i can do that in EVE if i really want to
KatanaPT Serenity Prime Kraken. 10	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:43:00 - [37] - Quote +1 also, lets get some APC's :D
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 257	Posted - 2013.03.14 16:58:00 - [38] - Quote I do like this idea, don't get it wrong. I've personally wanted to do that since the days of small missile turrets days of reign. I wanted to replace my large turret with small missile (as it felt better and earlier I had way better skills to them than larges). BUT HOWEVER This would make balancing the vehicles way more difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. At the moment there's quite a small range of PG/CPU you are operating in. Having default turrets (even when replaced by meta1) they effectively lessen tanks max PG/CPU. If removed, tanks would have more PG/CPU and therefore would be able to easily fit superior protection at the same time with superior weapons. I dare to say there would be no more room for 3 gun tank on the battlefield. Well you could choose to use it, this is a sandbox after all. Point is: Currently tank pilots have to make tough choices to make their fits, they can't have all. Removing turrets would open the door for no-brainer fits.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 141	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:14:00 - [39] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: I do like this idea, don't get it wrong. I've personally wanted to do that since the days of small missile turrets days of reign. I wanted to replace my large turret with small missile (as it felt better and earlier I had way better skills to them than larges). BUT HOWEVER This would make balancing the vehicles way more difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. At the moment there's quite a small range of PG/CPU you are operating in. Having default turrets (even when replaced by meta1) they effectively lessen tanks max PG/CPU. If removed, tanks would have more PG/CPU and therefore would be able to easily fit superior protection at the same time with superior weapons. I dare to say there would be no more room for 3 gun tank on the battlefield. Well you could choose to use it, this is a sandbox after all. Point is: Currently tank pilots have to make tough choices to make their fits, they can't have all. Removing turrets would open the door for no-brainer fits. But think of the fits we could have Taking off the 2 small turrets yes may allow more tank or a better main turret but you lose that turret slot and the guy in the seat cannot spin around on the top turret and look behind the tank so you lose a set of eyes You also lose that little bit of extra DPS or the ability to make the AV guy run away for cover Dropships would be more tank and act more like a flying APC if they wish so they survive for longer and are more useful for squads at least You have no turrets at all you may have a bigger tank but you have no offensive capabilitys at all For vehicle warfare it would totally change it and expand it in so many ways, CB with tanks wouldnt be the same and i think it would help with the annoyances of pub matches aswell The tough choices would be what tank you choose to bring out, its not like a dropsuit we dont have a garage to change tanks, we have that tough choice now but its really down to 2-3 tanks max at best, maybe 5 if with your tank crew but overall it would be tougher if we had more tanks available to use Plus we dont have amarr/minmatar tanks or the arty/AC or lazer turrets yet I think we should have the choice, EVE can do it so DUST should have it
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 141	Posted - 2013.03.15 13:31:00 - [40] - Quote Bump

Sylvang ayanah ZionTCD Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2013.03.15 20:12:00 - [41] - Quote id rather be able to put more defenses on my limbus or even a mobile cru than a turret with already reduced damage, and besides all the limbus/chardybis is good for at this point is running people over because their infantry repair tools are broken.
copy left BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 46	Posted - 2013.03.15 23:46:00 - [42] - Quote This has all of my yes
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 142	Posted - 2013.03.16 13:43:00 - [43] - Quote More options CCP
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens 176	Posted - 2013.03.16 23:55:00 - [44] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: I do like this idea, don't get it wrong. I've personally wanted to do that since the days of small missile turrets days of reign. I wanted to replace my large turret with small missile (as it felt better and earlier I had way better skills to them than larges). BUT HOWEVER This would make balancing the vehicles way more difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. At the moment there's quite a small range of PG/CPU you are operating in. Having default turrets (even when replaced by meta1) they effectively lessen tanks max PG/CPU. If removed, tanks would have more PG/CPU and therefore would be able to easily fit superior protection at the same time with superior weapons. I dare to say there would be no more room for 3 gun tank on the battlefield. Well you could choose to use it, this is a sandbox after all. Point is: Currently tank pilots have to make tough choices to make their fits, they can't have all. Removing turrets would open the door for no-brainer fits. But think of the fits we could have Taking off the 2 small turrets yes may allow more tank or a better main turret but you lose that turret slot and the guy in the seat cannot spin around on the top turret and look behind the tank so you lose a set of eyes You also lose that little bit of extra DPS or the ability to make the AV guy run away for cover Dropships would be more tank and act more like a flying APC if they wish so they survive for longer and are more useful for squads at least You have no turrets at all you may have a bigger tank but you have no offensive capabilitys at all For vehicle warfare it would totally change it and expand it in so many ways, CB with tanks wouldnt be the same and i think it would help with the annoyances of pub matches aswell The tough choices would be what tank you choose to bring out, its not like a dropsuit we dont have a garage to change tanks, we have that tough choice now but its really down to 2-3 tanks max at best, maybe 5 if with your tank crew but overall it would be tougher if we had more tanks available to use Plus we dont have amarr/minmatar tanks or the arty/AC or lazer turrets yet I think we should have the choice, EVE can do it so DUST should have it It will. CCP will introduce more toys gradually and only when they think the system and players can handle them.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 865	Posted - 2013.04.20 05:18:00 - [45] - Quote Bump!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 296	Posted - 2013.04.27 16:33:00 - [46] - Quote Bump
ECHO PACK GamersForChrist 50	Posted - 2013.04.29 01:27:00 - [47] - Quote id love to have just two small blasters people keep this forum active
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD Unclaimed. 70	Posted - 2013.04.29 06:00:00 - [48] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: I'll trade the large turret for more carrying capacity and a small turret Wouldn't that be a totally different HAV, or vehicle. Something with two small turrets, and carry capacity of 4 (plus driver
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 877	Posted - 2013.04.29 08:34:00 - [49] - Quote Patoman Radiant wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I'll trade the large turret for more carrying capacity and a small turret Wouldn't that be a totally different HAV, or vehicle. Something with two small turrets, and carry capacity of 4 (plus driver We should have the ability though. If I'm using my Tank as support, I want to be able to fit a stabilized blaster instead of those extra two small turrets that my squad aren't going to use because they're up ahead clearing the way. It should be how we want to fit it. Why does an LAV need a gun? Why does a Dropship need two when one or none could suffice?


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