DUST Search - Vehicles without turrets

KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:

I do like this idea, don't get it wrong. I've personally wanted to do that since the days of small missile turrets days of reign. I wanted to replace my large turret with small missile (as it felt better and earlier I had way better skills to them than larges).

BUT HOWEVER
This would make balancing the vehicles way more difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.
At the moment there's quite a small range of PG/CPU you are operating in. Having default turrets (even when replaced by meta1) they effectively lessen tanks max PG/CPU.

If removed, tanks would have more PG/CPU and therefore would be able to easily fit superior protection at the same time with superior weapons.
I dare to say there would be no more room for 3 gun tank on the battlefield. Well you could choose to use it, this is a sandbox after all.

Point is: Currently tank pilots have to make tough choices to make their fits, they can't have all. Removing turrets would open the door for no-brainer fits.


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Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 103	Posted - 2013.02.27 17:57:00 - [1] - Quote Atm you cannot have a vehicle without any turrets You cannot have a HAV with just 1 large turret and 1 small turret Its my vehicle CCP, i want to be able to drive a HAV hull with no turrets on it whatsoever for whatever reason and the same with LAV/Dropships Make it so
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 104	Posted - 2013.02.27 18:31:00 - [2] - Quote Because why not? You take off the main turret you gain so much in PG, you would be able to maybe fit on a MCRU and more tank and because it would have no guns it means hopefully it would be an armored APC until APCs are actually added, or until we as the drivers are allowed to boot ppl out Or it could be a super armored logistics tank Or a battering ram Or a troll tank Or a moving wall to protect infantry as they move in Or as a bait tank The options we have are endless with some of the fits im thinking off, my Madrugar already has 7fits and thats all with turrets, take them off and i can build at least another 7
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 110	Posted - 2013.02.28 00:31:00 - [3] - Quote Instead of a turret maybe a stealth cloak for BO HAVs at least, maybe infantry reppers for the small turret slots, just use the empty turret slots as seats and leave it at that until we get more mods In EVE they can be used to put on shield/armor reppers which we already have, or salavagers, or drone augmentaion links and also auto targeters but the game is massive and DUST is small
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 116	Posted - 2013.02.28 12:44:00 - [4] - Quote Thranx1231 wrote: Malefactor 00420 wrote: Agreed. Allow us the slots and the choice to fill them or not, like we do with suits. Only on certain Suits. Some require that some of the slots are filled. Plus, the OP is just asking for everyone to have two grenade slots. One for Locus and one for the QQ Special Battering Rams. What could he want them for beside running down even more Mercs? Red and Blue. With what he is suggesting than this would just be Death Race (the 2008 version). He would be nearly indestructible and LAVs, HAVs and Infantry would be his feed. I am not volunteering so this Kitten Scraping can run us all down. That would include your precious self as well, @Malefactor 00420. Obv didnt see the list i wrote down Ther is a number of HAVs i could easily build if i didnt have turrets and it would also allow HAVs to be more versatile and also specialized Drivers with ther millions of SP put into vehicles means that they dont have to go down 3 routes that every driver goes down anyways and we all end up with excatly the same fits
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 117	Posted - 2013.02.28 16:09:00 - [5] - Quote Hexen Trickster wrote: This is a great idea.. newberrys who are sitting in my turrets looting my tank when i get out quickly to repair it.. no turrets no newberrys in my tank as for removing my main turret.. id like a dust version of the warp field distruptor but instead more of a web version Basically a aoe equipment that slows nearby enemy mercs.. combined with the CRU and the giant tank.. itd be a great infantry support Thats a good idea So a small web turret which can slow down the speed of a infantry or vehicle by something like 20% or a large web turret which slows down for 50%, i dunno if it should lock on for infantry but it should for vehicles Or even turrets which maybe produce an AoE like i dunno shield regen for infantry or a safety net of sorts so infantry get bouses for supporting the tank but also the tank gets protected because of the infatry aswell in CQC at least
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 119	Posted - 2013.03.01 17:21:00 - [6] - Quote Full Metal Kitten wrote: I want to fit a snow plow on my LAV to keep dead heavies I run over from slowing me down. Yea run someone over like a scout and your tank stops dead for a second or 2 which shouldnt happen I would like to put on a cherry picker for lolz
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 119	Posted - 2013.03.02 12:37:00 - [7] - Quote Page 1
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 119	Posted - 2013.03.02 13:24:00 - [8] - Quote Thranx1231 wrote: [quote=Takahiro Kashuken]Obv didnt see the list i wrote down -- snip --/quote]Yes I did, Kitten Breath. Your thinly veiled attempt at having a destruction derby LAV with no Turret to use as a battering Ram is Exactly what you are asking for. It has no purpose except running down Heavies and anything else you are having trouble taking on now. Or just for laughs. And just to be crystal clear, I am calling BS on your proposal. You should buy a game that does that now, there is no need to change this one. Still didnt read the list In EVE i can fly a ship with nothing on it, i should be allowed to do the same with vehicles in DUST
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 119	Posted - 2013.03.03 16:50:00 - [9] - Quote Back to pg 1
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 119	Posted - 2013.03.07 14:14:00 - [10] - Quote Bump

Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 126	Posted - 2013.03.09 13:57:00 - [11] - Quote I want my turretless tank CCP
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 128	Posted - 2013.03.11 13:19:00 - [12] - Quote Bump
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:18:00 - [13] - Quote BUMP
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:35:00 - [14] - Quote Daniel Dickinson wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atm you cannot have a vehicle without any turrets You cannot have a HAV with just 1 large turret and 1 small turret Its my vehicle CCP, i want to be able to drive a HAV hull with no turrets on it whatsoever for whatever reason and the same with LAV/Dropships Make it so that's not how this game is played i would like to see more guns not less I want to play it with less guns, i can do that in EVE if i really want to
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 141	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:14:00 - [15] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: I do like this idea, don't get it wrong. I've personally wanted to do that since the days of small missile turrets days of reign. I wanted to replace my large turret with small missile (as it felt better and earlier I had way better skills to them than larges). BUT HOWEVER This would make balancing the vehicles way more difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. At the moment there's quite a small range of PG/CPU you are operating in. Having default turrets (even when replaced by meta1) they effectively lessen tanks max PG/CPU. If removed, tanks would have more PG/CPU and therefore would be able to easily fit superior protection at the same time with superior weapons. I dare to say there would be no more room for 3 gun tank on the battlefield. Well you could choose to use it, this is a sandbox after all. Point is: Currently tank pilots have to make tough choices to make their fits, they can't have all. Removing turrets would open the door for no-brainer fits. But think of the fits we could have Taking off the 2 small turrets yes may allow more tank or a better main turret but you lose that turret slot and the guy in the seat cannot spin around on the top turret and look behind the tank so you lose a set of eyes You also lose that little bit of extra DPS or the ability to make the AV guy run away for cover Dropships would be more tank and act more like a flying APC if they wish so they survive for longer and are more useful for squads at least You have no turrets at all you may have a bigger tank but you have no offensive capabilitys at all For vehicle warfare it would totally change it and expand it in so many ways, CB with tanks wouldnt be the same and i think it would help with the annoyances of pub matches aswell The tough choices would be what tank you choose to bring out, its not like a dropsuit we dont have a garage to change tanks, we have that tough choice now but its really down to 2-3 tanks max at best, maybe 5 if with your tank crew but overall it would be tougher if we had more tanks available to use Plus we dont have amarr/minmatar tanks or the arty/AC or lazer turrets yet I think we should have the choice, EVE can do it so DUST should have it
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 141	Posted - 2013.03.15 13:31:00 - [16] - Quote Bump
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 142	Posted - 2013.03.16 13:43:00 - [17] - Quote More options CCP
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 296	Posted - 2013.04.27 16:33:00 - [18] - Quote Bump