DUST Search - Vehicles without turrets

Takahiro Kashuken wrote:

KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:

I do like this idea, don't get it wrong. I've personally wanted to do that since the days of small missile turrets days of reign. I wanted to replace my large turret with small missile (as it felt better and earlier I had way better skills to them than larges).

BUT HOWEVER
This would make balancing the vehicles way more difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.
At the moment there's quite a small range of PG/CPU you are operating in. Having default turrets (even when replaced by meta1) they effectively lessen tanks max PG/CPU.

If removed, tanks would have more PG/CPU and therefore would be able to easily fit superior protection at the same time with superior weapons.
I dare to say there would be no more room for 3 gun tank on the battlefield. Well you could choose to use it, this is a sandbox after all.

Point is: Currently tank pilots have to make tough choices to make their fits, they can't have all. Removing turrets would open the door for no-brainer fits.

But think of the fits we could have

Taking off the 2 small turrets yes may allow more tank or a better main turret but you lose that turret slot and the guy in the seat cannot spin around on the top turret and look behind the tank so you lose a set of eyes

You also lose that little bit of extra DPS or the ability to make the AV guy run away for cover

Dropships would be more tank and act more like a flying APC if they wish so they survive for longer and are more useful for squads at least

You have no turrets at all you may have a bigger tank but you have no offensive capabilitys at all

For vehicle warfare it would totally change it and expand it in so many ways, CB with tanks wouldnt be the same and i think it would help with the annoyances of pub matches aswell

The tough choices would be what tank you choose to bring out, its not like a dropsuit we dont have a garage to change tanks, we have that tough choice now but its really down to 2-3 tanks max at best, maybe 5 if with your tank crew but overall it would be tougher if we had more tanks available to use

Plus we dont have amarr/minmatar tanks or the arty/AC or lazer turrets yet

I think we should have the choice, EVE can do it so DUST should have it

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Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens 173	Posted - 2013.03.07 18:41:00 - [1] - Quote Eniram Resh wrote: I freaking love all of these ideas. I'd like the webifier turret y'all were talking about earlie, but put on a LAV. Maybe make it to where it also slows down turret rotation on the enemy target too. That way an LAV could circle an HAV and keep it locked down until backup arrives, kinda like an interceptor on EvE. Webifier to slow vehicle or tracking disruptor to slow turret rotation. One module for each function, not one module that does both.
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens 173	Posted - 2013.03.07 18:45:00 - [2] - Quote When I saw the title I thought "Wow. Someone's going full ******." But after reading the ideas, yeah, I like it. I could take the turret off of my LAV and harden it up to increase my chances of getting quickly to a location across the map.
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens 176	Posted - 2013.03.16 23:55:00 - [3] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: I do like this idea, don't get it wrong. I've personally wanted to do that since the days of small missile turrets days of reign. I wanted to replace my large turret with small missile (as it felt better and earlier I had way better skills to them than larges). BUT HOWEVER This would make balancing the vehicles way more difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. At the moment there's quite a small range of PG/CPU you are operating in. Having default turrets (even when replaced by meta1) they effectively lessen tanks max PG/CPU. If removed, tanks would have more PG/CPU and therefore would be able to easily fit superior protection at the same time with superior weapons. I dare to say there would be no more room for 3 gun tank on the battlefield. Well you could choose to use it, this is a sandbox after all. Point is: Currently tank pilots have to make tough choices to make their fits, they can't have all. Removing turrets would open the door for no-brainer fits. But think of the fits we could have Taking off the 2 small turrets yes may allow more tank or a better main turret but you lose that turret slot and the guy in the seat cannot spin around on the top turret and look behind the tank so you lose a set of eyes You also lose that little bit of extra DPS or the ability to make the AV guy run away for cover Dropships would be more tank and act more like a flying APC if they wish so they survive for longer and are more useful for squads at least You have no turrets at all you may have a bigger tank but you have no offensive capabilitys at all For vehicle warfare it would totally change it and expand it in so many ways, CB with tanks wouldnt be the same and i think it would help with the annoyances of pub matches aswell The tough choices would be what tank you choose to bring out, its not like a dropsuit we dont have a garage to change tanks, we have that tough choice now but its really down to 2-3 tanks max at best, maybe 5 if with your tank crew but overall it would be tougher if we had more tanks available to use Plus we dont have amarr/minmatar tanks or the arty/AC or lazer turrets yet I think we should have the choice, EVE can do it so DUST should have it It will. CCP will introduce more toys gradually and only when they think the system and players can handle them.