I mean it isnt an enormous amount of money here that is being thrown around, but CCP has to realize that not everyone is in a position to buy AUR and its one thing for weapons, but we can all unequivocally agree that the dropsuit is the foundation of a players fitting that it has to be something people cant gain an advantage with through RL money.

im sure CCP doesnt plan on keep it like that,

on the bright side, newberries have a chance to compete with the vets....sorta. now we all get to strut around with 450+ shields

if you have the shield skills that is :)

At least for assault the "p2w" proto suits are vk0's, and nobody in their right mind would use one of these garbage suits. Type-B > vk0 by a LONG shot. Type-I, type-A, and vk0 are pure crap. No idea why these are even in the game, as nobody wants to use them (for good reason).

If CCP wants to see more armor tanks, then they need to get rid of the ridiculous speed-gimp that comes with armor tanking. Otherwise this game will remain shield-tank central for the remainder of its life.

Seriously with no modules at all shields recharge at a decent rate, armor only recharges if you have mods for it, and even then at a VERY slow pace. At this point, there is zero reason to armor tank. Sure you can armor tank with a whole bunch of damage mods, but when you are as slow as a turtle it makes no difference. A type-II is more practical than a vk0 is equipped right.

At least for assault the "p2w" proto suits are vk0's, and nobody in their right mind would use one of these garbage suits. Type-B > vk0 by a LONG shot. Type-I, type-A, and vk0 are pure crap. No idea why these are even in the game, as nobody wants to use them (for good reason).

If CCP wants to see more armor tanks, then they need to get rid of the ridiculous speed-gimp that comes with armor tanking. Otherwise this game will remain shield-tank central for the remainder of its life.

Seriously with no modules at all shields recharge at a decent rate, armor only recharges if you have mods for it, and even then at a VERY slow pace. At this point, there is zero reason to armor tank. Sure you can armor tank with a whole bunch of damage mods, but when you are as slow as a turtle it makes no difference. A type-II is more practical than a vk0 if equipped right.

A few months ago I knew nothing about the passive skills for shields/armor (was more interested in testing than checking out the skill tree). I usually ran a Type-II with around 350ish shields and 180ish armor and did just fine.

Now I can get a Vk.0, run it with 347 shields, 566 armor, and only be slowed to about the speed of a regular Type-I Logi suit. I used to run Logi suits when I first started the beta 6 months ago, so moving slow with an AR is no issue for me.

Basically what I'm saying is

1) if you know how to run it, a Type-I can be just as good as Type-II. They just require different playstyles.

and

2) this proto suit can give me a shield level I am used to running PLUS MORE THAN DOUBLE the armor backup than I'm used to, that's enough to make it useful.

Not sure what you were running against me tonight, you got me a few times, I got you a few times. And I really have to admire that nade you killed me with! Plum throw on your part!

Just between you me and the fence post, that nade saved your life , cause you were next

At the rate you die you will be out of aurum in an hour or so.

After further discussion with some of my peers and some of the posts ive read im inclined to agree that i was mistaken about my stance on this issue.

I did mention earlier that from a vets point of view this is actually a pay to keep up feature for a very low cost that can be a good bridge until SP rollover comes through.

But my main concern was new players who get AUR gear like this compared to new players who stick only F2P then thats is at least one month disparity for them. It was this concept in mind that drove the idea to make the suit more expensive or unlockable at level 4 until such a time as tech 2 or higher end gear becomes avaliable and then just like any "luxury" item depreciation it becomes cheaper and available at a lower SP level as its inherent "value" will have decreased in time compared to the veteran playerbase.

This concept is something i think CCP should consider long term in terms of their AUR item pricing and availability plan. For me personally the AUR proto is a bridge for the next 2 weeks, but AUR priority for me will always be boosters. Fortunately rebate money from corsair came in and thats another merc pack for me.

And also Corp Battles were a concern which will eventually decide FW sov but there was flaw in my logic in that veteran players would have a potential time advantage and that could be more detrimental in corps fighting over sov and i didnt fully consider that aspect of the argument that could also be equalized by newer corp with AUR.


But in the end i never claimed AUR proto suits should not exist in the game only that they should either cost higher or be available slightly later, then again if this is the model CCP projects will earn them the best revenue stream than im all for it because i do want this game to survive and CCP to make a profit.


In conclusion currently much of AUR gear is pay to get ahead but as the community gets more time in game these items will become pay to keep up and CCP will need to release new AUR items to get ahead and then reduce the cost and SP requirements to use these current AUR items as they will have less value compared to what veteran players will have access to.