Tanks in skirmish I have no issue with as they were designed for that... but tanks in ambush? Are some players really that insecure?

So what toothpick rooster players here bring tanks to ambush? And why?

Hellstorm loves bringing out tanks in ambush...ask them why........

this is pretty funny...

about 3 threads down, there is a post "snipers are ruining ambush"

and the op here is talking about insecurity with tank users?

c'mon man:

how insecure do you have to be to be one of the many snipers who hide and claim "it's not my job" when the squad is ordered to move and take the objective. hell half of these twinks don't even leave the red zone without a secret service escort and an extra box of tampons?


and ambush is straight up codmode. who cares what goes on in there?
really seriously... it's fun once a day.

i'd say if you got it and you can use it, why not? if they have the money to blow through using tanks against casuals, let em do it.

if it's all about insecurity then give everyone a swiss army knife and tell em to go to town on each other.

6 of em will still be trying to snipe from the mountain top with a swiss army knife.

Peace
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Exactly, snipers and tankers are both cowards in their own way, thanks for the clarification

Major respect to those who use guns in this game! (even the heavies! )

this is pretty funny...

about 3 threads down, there is a post "snipers are ruining ambush"

and the op here is talking about insecurity with tank users?

c'mon man:

how insecure do you have to be to be one of the many snipers who hide and claim "it's not my job" when the squad is ordered to move and take the objective. hell half of these twinks don't even leave the red zone without a secret service escort and an extra box of tampons?


and ambush is straight up codmode. who cares what goes on in there?
really seriously... it's fun once a day.

i'd say if you got it and you can use it, why not? if they have the money to blow through using tanks against casuals, let em do it.

if it's all about insecurity then give everyone a swiss army knife and tell em to go to town on each other.

6 of em will still be trying to snipe from the mountain top with a swiss army knife.

Peace
B

Snipers - hide on hill in the redline sniping and most likely will live for the entire game and not do much

Tanks - requires huge amounts of SP/ISK to full upgrade one and use it well even tho milita grade stuff is more than enough to destroy one and tend to go into the heat of battle and get **** done while dodging OB because that is instant death most of the time for a tank

Hm yea they really are the same thing

Philosophically, yes, they are.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet... Just because a tanker pays more and spends more SP doesn't make them any less identical to redline snipers. Both are low-risk high-reward systems.

Also if a decently speced tanker is getting destroyed by a militia tank, then they truly suck.

Oh and ambush OB's are pretty few and far between, especially when playing against 100% solo players.

How hard is it for most people to swap over to AV?

Look at it this way.

Do you expect a prototype heavy to outlast 3 GEK AR soldiers at range?

I think a better question is why people use drop ships in ambush....

Tanks in skirmish I have no issue with as they were designed for that... but tanks in ambush? Are some players really that insecure?

So what toothpick rooster players here bring tanks to ambush? And why?

How hard is it for most people to swap over to AV?

Philosophically, yes, they are.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet... Just because a tanker pays more and spends more SP doesn't make them any less identical to redline snipers. Both are low-risk high-reward systems.

Also if a decently speced tanker is getting destroyed by a militia tank, then they truly suck.

Oh and ambush OB's are pretty few and far between, especially when playing against 100% solo players.

Different limits per vehicle type and per mode.

I know there's a team vehicle quota but i'm not sure what it is. I'd say make it a limit of 4 tanks in Skirmish and 2 in Ambush.

its 5 tanks per team but its rare that all 5 survive since thats 10 players (on average 2 ppl per tank) so likely about 6-8 enemies are AV, thats more than enough to insta kill tanks

How hard is it for most people to swap over to AV?

Ok, good to know there's a specific limit just for HAVs. I had only reached the team quota for LAVs, though i didn't count and the most team HAVs i've seen in a battle was 4. Still, it seems there's no difference from Skirmish to Ambush and there is were i'd change something. 4 tanks in an Ambush (i've seen that) is a bit over the top. A lower team quota for Ambush would probably make sense, let's also not forget that most maps for that mode are a lot smaller.

Most of the tanks i play against in ambush SUCK. I think most tanks do not want to waste isk in an ambush match. I heard that tanks are alot more expensive compared to other load outs, other than vehicles. I think that might be the reason these tanks suck.

Tanks in skirmish I have no issue with as they were designed for that... but tanks in ambush? Are some players really that insecure?

So what toothpick rooster players here bring tanks to ambush? And why?

Tanks in skirmish I have no issue with as they were designed for that... but tanks in ambush? Are some players really that insecure?

So what toothpick rooster players here bring tanks to ambush? And why?

Why do i tank in ambush.

Well skirmish is boring for me now. OBs are easily gained there and as a shield tank my surviving is all luck based. And being a aggressive tanker I am always lower on health or have used my modules. The isk is poor for how long you play in a skirmish. Just no reason to play a gamemode where the only AV in it is Orbitals.

Why play ambush.
I make more isk according to my time put in I can make 3 times that in ambush then it takes to do a single skirmish match.
I just play to grind out my SP so ambush again is faster there.
My skill at least counts for some what of a factor against AV in ambush. It is not oh we suck at AV so then the next step is for a team to drop the insta win OB.


But really the main thing that has destroyed my enjoy of skirmish is OBs have destroyed the aspect of shield tanking because tanks have been slightly over nerfed and with the buffs they did on OBs they have became able to destroy fully pimped out shield tanks. And the enemy team does not need to risk anything they just need to play the game. And the thing is once I have made my tank a assest on the field I can not interchange like infantry can at supply depos. No matter what there is always a enemy squad that gains a OB so it all comes down to luck if it is not called in on my tank.

Here's a thought,

The reason people see tanks in ambush is because they're more likely to survive since advanced and up AV is OP.

Why?

Because ambush is cqc.

Which means your squad members can eat anyone with AV plus random spawns.

In skirmish,

Tanks will struggle to survive,

AV can be used at full range, even from behind the redline.

Your squad can help you?

I don't think so.

This. I was playing with YOUR NAME HERE last night on skirmish. We got them all the way back to the redline but they were to far away for us infantry to hit. So it became easier for there AV guys to take out his tank.

Philosophically, yes, they are.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet... Just because a tanker pays more and spends more SP doesn't make them any less identical to redline snipers. Both are low-risk high-reward systems.

Also if a decently speced tanker is getting destroyed by a militia tank, then they truly suck.

Oh and ambush OB's are pretty few and far between, especially when playing against 100% solo players.

>low risk
>tanks

Are you ******* kidding me? Yes, tanks are low risk against infantry armed with assault rifle and such garbage, but if someone has grenadier above 2 or has adv. Swarms/Forge guns, it gets really high risk fast.

Have you ever even driven tank? Because obviously you haven't, otherwise you would understand the fact that losing a tank means you don't get any net ISK gain at the end of the match, and often it's a net loss.

And calling snipers low-risk means you don't understand the way the game works. Yeah, you may do well personally, but you'll lose the match if you can't cap objectives.

Just because something works in ambush most of the time doesn't mean it works anywhere else the rest of the time.

People may have dedicated tank characters, all skill points on tanks. Considering that, can you blame them?
Especially as tanks are far more vulnerable in ambushes.

Exactly, snipers and tankers are both cowards in their own way, thanks for the clarification

Major respect to those who use guns in this game! (even the heavies! )

Look at it this way.

Do you expect a prototype heavy to outlast 3 GEK AR soldiers at range?

then why can't you use snipers and tanks if it's in the game?