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Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.24 23:50:00 - [1] - Quote Orbitals seriously need fixed. Up the WP requirement. Create an isk cost for calling them in. 2 in squad = 2500 WP for OB 4 in squad = 5000 WP for OB Price, well make it up. My bro and I get 2 OB's per game atm in just our 2 man squad. I've had several times with meh tank, people farm WP's and disregard going AV to call OB's on me only. I mean 5 OB's from 1 squad on my tank in one match.....really? lol. I can only take so much. But I've been seeing it a lot lately, WP's farmed in redline ect. Its terribly easy, it should take more work.
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.02.24 23:52:00 - [2] - Quote I hardly ever see them Seems like you're having some rotten luck.
GetShotUp UnReaL. 85	Posted - 2013.02.24 23:54:00 - [3] - Quote what about in Ambush?
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.24 23:56:00 - [4] - Quote GetShotUp wrote: what about in Ambush? Not really in ambush no. The games run so short. I feel fairly cheap just running in ambush with my tank, I'd rather have a challenge.
Vaerana Myshtana ScIdama Endless Renaissance 200	Posted - 2013.02.24 23:57:00 - [5] - Quote The heck with WP, why not just charge 500,000 ISK to call one in? That brings the cost roughly comparable with a fitted militia tank. However, if they do up the WP, then they need to let people store up WP and burn them like LP. Just because YOU can earn them by yourself in a match doesn't mean everyone can.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:03:00 - [6] - Quote Vaerana Myshtana wrote: The heck with WP, why not just charge 500,000 ISK to call one in? That brings the cost roughly comparable with a fitted militia tank. However, if they do up the WP, then they need to let people store up WP and burn them like LP. Just because YOU can earn them by yourself in a match doesn't mean everyone can. That is a nice isk charge, but with no other limiting factor it would allowed to be spammed. A full squad with a WP increase should be able to get 1 OB per match, which is what it should be.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:07:00 - [7] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Orbitals seriously need fixed. Up the WP requirement. Create an isk cost for calling them in. 2 in squad = 2500 WP for OB 4 in squad = 5000 WP for OB Price, well make it up. My bro and I get 2 OB's per game atm in just our 2 man squad. I've had several times with meh tank, people farm WP's and disregard going AV to call OB's on me only. I mean 5 OB's from 1 squad on my tank in one match.....really? lol. I can only take so much. But I've been seeing it a lot lately, WP's farmed in redline ect. Its terribly easy, it should take more work. Agree with this to some extent. OBS are so easy to get in organised squads. CCP has just made it too easy get OBS. I agree with the ISK factor involved in getting those OBS. I also think they should be removed from pub matches. Thats my my opinion though.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:07:00 - [8] - Quote A single squad farmed WP for 5 orbitals and you couldn't slow them down? I would think it a trivial task to prevent four guys from all earning ~3000 WP.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:11:00 - [9] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: A single squad farmed WP for 5 orbitals and you couldn't slow them down? I would think it a trivial task to prevent four guys from all earning ~3000 WP. There's ways to farm it from way behind the redline. I'm giving no secrets, there's also an OB glitch to have your WP's recounted into the same squad.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:12:00 - [10] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Knarf Black wrote: A single squad farmed WP for 5 orbitals and you couldn't slow them down? I would think it a trivial task to prevent four guys from all earning ~3000 WP. There's ways to farm it from way behind the redline. I'm giving no secrets, there's also an OB glitch to have your WP's recounted into the same squad. You better STFU about that. We dont want people knowing those secrets. Unlike AFK farming this secret has some value in corp matches.

Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:18:00 - [11] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Knarf Black wrote: A single squad farmed WP for 5 orbitals and you couldn't slow them down? I would think it a trivial task to prevent four guys from all earning ~3000 WP. There's ways to farm it from way behind the redline. I'm giving no secrets, there's also an OB glitch to have your WP's recounted into the same squad. You better STFU about that. We dont want people knowing those secrets. Unlike AFK farming this secret has some value in corp matches. Agreed, however, Its getting ridiculous. Spamming OB's should not be an option. Although I'm referring to tanks a lot. Av specialized is ridiculous as is, lot of people trying to kill me. Yet no matter what I do 95% of my deaths are from OB's being spammed,
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:22:00 - [12] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Knarf Black wrote: A single squad farmed WP for 5 orbitals and you couldn't slow them down? I would think it a trivial task to prevent four guys from all earning ~3000 WP. There's ways to farm it from way behind the redline. I'm giving no secrets, there's also an OB glitch to have your WP's recounted into the same squad. You better STFU about that. We dont want people knowing those secrets. Unlike AFK farming this secret has some value in corp matches. Agreed, however, Its getting ridiculous. Spamming OB's should not be an option. Although I'm referring to tanks a lot. Av specialized is ridiculous as is, lot of people trying to kill me. Yet no matter what I do 95% of my deaths are from OB's being spammed, Although I agree with you its just gonna give CCP one more reason to fix some other **** thats not required lol.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:29:00 - [13] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Knarf Black wrote: A single squad farmed WP for 5 orbitals and you couldn't slow them down? I would think it a trivial task to prevent four guys from all earning ~3000 WP. There's ways to farm it from way behind the redline. I'm giving no secrets, there's also an OB glitch to have your WP's recounted into the same squad. You better STFU about that. We dont want people knowing those secrets. Unlike AFK farming this secret has some value in corp matches. Agreed, however, Its getting ridiculous. Spamming OB's should not be an option. Although I'm referring to tanks a lot. Av specialized is ridiculous as is, lot of people trying to kill me. Yet no matter what I do 95% of my deaths are from OB's being spammed, Although I agree with you its just gonna give CCP one more reason to fix some other **** thats not required lol. Totally true, they'll probably just Nerf hammer it then move on, like usual
Kabuki Quantum Immobile Infantry 5	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:31:00 - [14] - Quote Sniping from behind the red line to farm WP will probably get nerfed, and if not it should. Also, we absolutely SHOULD discuss exploits/bugs and the like. Not discussing it or not bringing bugs/glitches to light is how you end up with a broken game that people stop playing. This is an open beta. We are supposed to discuss stuff like this, not doing so just hurts the games progress. Sure, go ahead and do it until it gets fixed. It's not your fault things get overlooked in the games development, but if you don't bring it to the developers attention, you are just ensuring the game gets more and more broken.
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:40:00 - [15] - Quote How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...?
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:40:00 - [16] - Quote Kabuki Quantum wrote: Sniping from behind the red line to farm WP will probably get nerfed, and if not it should. Also, we absolutely SHOULD discuss exploits/bugs and the like. Not discussing it or not bringing bugs/glitches to light is how you end up with a broken game that people stop playing. This is an open beta. We are supposed to discuss stuff like this, not doing so just hurts the games progress. Sure, go ahead and do it until it gets fixed. It's not your fault things get overlooked in the games development, but if you don't bring it to the developers attention, you are just ensuring the game gets more and more broken. Sorry. With what I have seen in the past things get over nerfed. There is no middle ground of balance. Any glitch or exploit I find stays with me from here on.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 128	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:50:00 - [17] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost?
Calgoth Reborn United Front LLC 145	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:50:00 - [18] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Knarf Black wrote: A single squad farmed WP for 5 orbitals and you couldn't slow them down? I would think it a trivial task to prevent four guys from all earning ~3000 WP. There's ways to farm it from way behind the redline. I'm giving no secrets, there's also an OB glitch to have your WP's recounted into the same squad. You better STFU about that. We dont want people knowing those secrets. Unlike AFK farming this secret has some value in corp matches. So from what you just said there's a glitch that you want to use and not to tell so you can abuse it against other's
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:51:00 - [19] - Quote The only time I ever have a problem with orbitals is in the middle of an ambush match in that ultra-small Manus Peak map.
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:56:00 - [20] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost? How many matches can a Tank diver go 25+/0 and making 300,000+ ISK? I see many tank drivers bragging about going many matches they go without losing a tank. When they do lose one they should have earned enough to re-buy it. But instead they come to the forum and complain that what ever killed them is OP/too easy.

DigiOps DUST University Ivy League 85	Posted - 2013.02.25 00:58:00 - [21] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost? If you aren't prepared to lose it, don't call it in.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 01:02:00 - [22] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost? How many matches can a Tank diver go 25+/0 and making 300,000+ ISK? I see many tank drivers bragging about going many matches they go without losing a tank. When they do lose one they should have earned enough to re-buy it. But instead they come to the forum and complain that what ever killed them is OP/too easy. 1-2 Then tank is lost. Average 250k isk per game at 20 kills. Tank costs 800k give or take a bit depending on fit. If you play ambush only, your chances are better, with lower isk.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 01:03:00 - [23] - Quote DigiOps wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost? If you aren't prepared to lose it, don't call it in. This is the mindset that got tanks to the point of broken feature nerfs, ie missiles among others, don't bring that in this thread.
DigiOps DUST University Ivy League 85	Posted - 2013.02.25 01:10:00 - [24] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: DigiOps wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost? If you aren't prepared to lose it, don't call it in. This is the mindset that got tanks to the point of broken feature nerfs, ie missiles among others, don't bring that in this thread. I didn't say anything about nerfing. My comment was attached to a question regarding cost, not skill or "overpowered-ness". Edit: I'm not trying to be hostile so please don't take it that way. I've seen plenty of tank drivers do just fine in militia HAVs. I'm all for having an HAV on the field, be it for my team to discourage enemy movement and being a big help in redlining (though that gets a bit boring) or being on the opposing team and providing a fun challenge. I just don't see the need to call in an "expensive" tank just to have it wasted in a public match when it would be much more cost effective to call in a less expensive one. Then again, I've never seen you in action so I can't really say much about what you do or don't drive. Again, not trying to be hostile or incur the wrath of any future nerf hammers.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 01:14:00 - [25] - Quote DigiOps wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: DigiOps wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost? If you aren't prepared to lose it, don't call it in. This is the mindset that got tanks to the point of broken feature nerfs, ie missiles among others, don't bring that in this thread. I didn't say anything about nerfing. My comment was attached to a question regarding cost, not skill or "overpowered-ness". Ya but that made it easier to Nerf them, tank drivers are like 2% of the player base, our voice is quite. I refuse to do that now. We need it louder.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 128	Posted - 2013.02.25 01:18:00 - [26] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost? How many matches can a Tank diver go 25+/0 and making 300,000+ ISK? I see many tank drivers bragging about going many matches they go without losing a tank. When they do lose one they should have earned enough to re-buy it. But instead they come to the forum and complain that what ever killed them is OP/too easy. How often do I lose a dropsuit? Ask my 91 mil isk..it doesnt matter what you use its how good you are..ob destroying a tank takes no skill...or just make a skill for ob's and you cant use them without skilling it up
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:02:00 - [27] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: How come the only people I mainly see complaining about orbitals are tank drivers...? How much does your dropsuit fit cost? How many matches can a Tank diver go 25+/0 and making 300,000+ ISK? I see many tank drivers bragging about going many matches they go without losing a tank. When they do lose one they should have earned enough to re-buy it. But instead they come to the forum and complain that what ever killed them is OP/too easy. How often do I lose a dropsuit? Ask my 91 mil isk..it doesnt matter what you use its how good you are..ob destroying a tank takes no skill...or just make a skill for ob's and you cant use them without skilling it up lol that's a pretty good idea. X12 skill like HAV. The higher the level the higher the OB damage.
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:18:00 - [28] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Orbitals seriously need fixed. Up the WP requirement. Create an isk cost for calling them in. 2 in squad = 2500 WP for OB 4 in squad = 5000 WP for OB Price, well make it up. My bro and I get 2 OB's per game atm in just our 2 man squad. I've had several times with meh tank, people farm WP's and disregard going AV to call OB's on me only. I mean 5 OB's from 1 squad on my tank in one match.....really? lol. I can only take so much. But I've been seeing it a lot lately, WP's farmed in redline ect. Its terribly easy, it should take more work. or give tanks the same wps as infantry
Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:25:00 - [29] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: The only time I ever have a problem with orbitals is in the middle of an ambush match in that ultra-small Manus Peak map. I <3 being the ******* who calls it in. Manus ambush variant is a brutal map.
KING PDIGGY Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.02.25 02:39:00 - [30] - Quote also get wps in a tank is uber easy, doesnt really show the problem(not that there even is one), now when your two man squad is running strictly assault and getting multiple ob's then it will be relevant.



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