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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

Brass Stalker wrote:

Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote:

you can run at angles on Dust but sprinting is a more complex action, look at the drop suits, dont you think it would b awkward 2 sprint in any angle but straight ahead? plus is there any FPS that allows sprinting at any angle but straight ahead?

Are you speaking on behalf of the developers? could you show me a quote where this is actually why... futuristic space combat suits that can jump 10 feet high and have on board inertia dampeners but cant turn their heads while sprinting. seriously, when your running at an angle it because the game is simulating your character is sprinting whilst looking in a direction. its a fluidity of movement issue that preventing has less to do with realism and more with technical problems i would assume.

Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

Sontie wrote:

I want to see you or anyone spring at an angle. Show me a video. I think this is a troll thread. DAMN IT! WHY
DID I FEED THE TROLL?!?!

Same with people who want to sprint while reloading.
It's impossible, even for our mercs. It's unrealistic enough to be able to reload while running

sprinting while reloading is completely different in regards to unbalancing the game than simply being able to look at a 45-¦ angle while moving from point A to point B. you have no real argument..

Tell me: how is sprinting at a 45 degree angle physically possible?

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Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.24 08:56:00 - [1] - Quote Are we ever going to see our units being able to sprint at an angle? this game is now in open beta and im still running like a locomotive on a track. if this is a design choice can we at least get an explanation? seriously. the original doom you could run at an angle what the hell is going on?
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 144	Posted - 2013.02.24 08:57:00 - [2] - Quote I want to sprint backwards
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.24 09:01:00 - [3] - Quote zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: I want to sprint backwards then do it.
Bruce3 Wayne3 Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 10	Posted - 2013.02.24 11:25:00 - [4] - Quote you can run at angles on Dust but sprinting is a more complex action, look at the drop suits, dont you think it would b awkward 2 sprint in any angle but straight ahead? plus is there any FPS that allows sprinting at any angle but straight ahead?
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2013.02.24 11:39:00 - [5] - Quote If you want to sprint in a different direction, why don't you just turn and face that way???
Bruce3 Wayne3 Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 10	Posted - 2013.02.24 11:44:00 - [6] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: If you want to sprint in a different direction, why don't you just turn and face that way??? this genious has solved your problems so now no need to continue this pointless thread
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 95	Posted - 2013.02.24 12:04:00 - [7] - Quote I want to see you or anyone spring at an angle. Show me a video. I think this is a troll thread. DAMN IT! WHY DID I FEED THE TROLL?!?!
Public Safety Officer Algintal Core Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.02.24 13:03:00 - [8] - Quote Sprinting at an angle is OP.
Garrett Whetshaft Hateful Munitions 31	Posted - 2013.02.24 13:06:00 - [9] - Quote PICS! OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN :P
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.24 15:15:00 - [10] - Quote Sontie wrote: I want to see you or anyone spring at an angle. Show me a video. I think this is a troll thread. DAMN IT! WHY DID I FEED THE TROLL?!?! Same with people who want to sprint while reloading. It's impossible, even for our mercs. It's unrealistic enough to be able to reload while running

Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2013.02.24 15:20:00 - [11] - Quote Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote: plus is there any FPS that allows sprinting at any angle but straight ahead? MAG and BF3 to some degree.
Bruce3 Wayne3 Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 10	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:05:00 - [12] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote: plus is there any FPS that allows sprinting at any angle but straight ahead? MAG and BF3 to some degree. no BF3 allows turnin while sprinting but not sprinting at a tangent
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 183	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:30:00 - [13] - Quote I personally would like to see jumping while prone or backpedalling forward before sprinting at an angle.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 373	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:35:00 - [14] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: I personally would like to see jumping while prone or backpedalling forward before sprinting at an angle. sounds like some kind of weird dance move
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:36:00 - [15] - Quote Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote: you can run at angles on Dust but sprinting is a more complex action, look at the drop suits, dont you think it would b awkward 2 sprint in any angle but straight ahead? plus is there any FPS that allows sprinting at any angle but straight ahead? Are you speaking on behalf of the developers? could you show me a quote where this is actually why... futuristic space combat suits that can jump 10 feet high and have on board inertia dampeners but cant turn their heads while sprinting. seriously, when your running at an angle it because the game is simulating your character is sprinting whilst looking in a direction. its a fluidity of movement issue that preventing has less to do with realism and more with technical problems i would assume. Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Sontie wrote: I want to see you or anyone spring at an angle. Show me a video. I think this is a troll thread. DAMN IT! WHY DID I FEED THE TROLL?!?! Same with people who want to sprint while reloading. It's impossible, even for our mercs. It's unrealistic enough to be able to reload while running sprinting while reloading is completely different in regards to unbalancing the game than simply being able to look at a 45-¦ angle while moving from point A to point B. you have no real argument..
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:45:00 - [16] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: I personally would like to see jumping while prone or backpedalling forward before sprinting at an angle. do you know the meaning of "straw man" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 326	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:49:00 - [17] - Quote Sprinting at an angle....What or how in the how f#ck!?
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:49:00 - [18] - Quote Brass Stalker wrote: Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote: you can run at angles on Dust but sprinting is a more complex action, look at the drop suits, dont you think it would b awkward 2 sprint in any angle but straight ahead? plus is there any FPS that allows sprinting at any angle but straight ahead? Are you speaking on behalf of the developers? could you show me a quote where this is actually why... futuristic space combat suits that can jump 10 feet high and have on board inertia dampeners but cant turn their heads while sprinting. seriously, when your running at an angle it because the game is simulating your character is sprinting whilst looking in a direction. its a fluidity of movement issue that preventing has less to do with realism and more with technical problems i would assume. Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Sontie wrote: I want to see you or anyone spring at an angle. Show me a video. I think this is a troll thread. DAMN IT! WHY DID I FEED THE TROLL?!?! Same with people who want to sprint while reloading. It's impossible, even for our mercs. It's unrealistic enough to be able to reload while running sprinting while reloading is completely different in regards to unbalancing the game than simply being able to look at a 45-¦ angle while moving from point A to point B. you have no real argument.. Tell me: how is sprinting at a 45 degree angle physically possible?
zeek1227 zeek1227 Blitzkrieg Co. 144	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:50:00 - [19] - Quote Brass Stalker wrote: zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: I want to sprint backwards then do it. MAKE ME!
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:54:00 - [20] - Quote Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote: plus is there any FPS that allows sprinting at any angle but straight ahead? MAG and BF3 to some degree. no BF3 allows turnin while sprinting but not sprinting at a tangent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8OuG3rdVWY 0:45

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 373	Posted - 2013.02.24 18:56:00 - [21] - Quote How would you work in a control to move the head and only the head, because at the minute and this applies to pretty much all FPS's when you move the right stick it simulates your entire upper body moving.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.24 19:11:00 - [22] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Brass Stalker wrote: Bruce3 Wayne3 wrote: you can run at angles on Dust but sprinting is a more complex action, look at the drop suits, dont you think it would b awkward 2 sprint in any angle but straight ahead? plus is there any FPS that allows sprinting at any angle but straight ahead? Are you speaking on behalf of the developers? could you show me a quote where this is actually why... futuristic space combat suits that can jump 10 feet high and have on board inertia dampeners but cant turn their heads while sprinting. seriously, when your running at an angle it because the game is simulating your character is sprinting whilst looking in a direction. its a fluidity of movement issue that preventing has less to do with realism and more with technical problems i would assume. Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Sontie wrote: I want to see you or anyone spring at an angle. Show me a video. I think this is a troll thread. DAMN IT! WHY DID I FEED THE TROLL?!?! Same with people who want to sprint while reloading. It's impossible, even for our mercs. It's unrealistic enough to be able to reload while running sprinting while reloading is completely different in regards to unbalancing the game than simply being able to look at a 45-¦ angle while moving from point A to point B. you have no real argument.. Tell me: how is sprinting at a 45 degree angle physically possible? you're sprinting straight, your head would be looking left at the 45 degree. of course everyone knows this is possible. but in games like fps it is simulated to give the player a sense of immersion. they're allowed to sprint slightly at an angle and if they see an enemy off to the side they would naturally have a chance to react. just as if the enemy was on the right or slightly to the front right of where the player was sprinting the enemy would have a chance to react first. its just a level of depth that most people understand some people need explanations and that's fine too.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.24 19:14:00 - [23] - Quote It is impossible to sprint at an angle, just turn mid sprint you lazy ass.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.24 19:21:00 - [24] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: It is impossible to sprint at an angle, just turn mid sprint you lazy ass. im supposed to be lazy om playing the game not the one making it
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.24 19:31:00 - [25] - Quote . . . Well the point is that you can't sprint at an angle. You can jog, and it will look stupid, but not a full on sprint.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2013.02.24 20:24:00 - [26] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: . . . Well the point is that you can't sprint at an angle. You can jog, and it will look stupid, but not a full on sprint. We're really talking about two different things here: 1) Looking off-axis while sprinting and 2) Sprinting(or jogging, moving faster than a walk at any rate) at some angle to the Direction you're facing. It's really two separate conversations. I can imagine situations where both could be useful - I know there's lots of times when i'm sprinting between cover where i would have liked to be able to scan side to side a little to avoid the deathtaxis. And there's other times when it would have been nice to be able to jog at an angle to the direction i was shooting in order to track a fast-moving target - by adjusting your angle you could adjust your tracking speed. Both are things we can all do IRL, there shouldn't be any argument about that. The jogging obliquely part seems easy, L3 and leftstick position - the greater the angle of travel to the angle your body is facing the lower your sprint speed, until at 90-¦ you're walking speed. Maybe rolloff speed as the square of the cosine. The looking part maybe when you're sprinting R3 then acts as the 'look off axis' toggle. Maybe something worth asking the devs for once core mechanics are solid.
Thumb Green Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2013.02.24 20:53:00 - [27] - Quote Sontie wrote: I want to see you or anyone spring at an angle. Show me a video. I think this is a troll thread. DAMN IT! WHY DID I FEED THE TROLL?!?! Go watch some football.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.02.24 21:39:00 - [28] - Quote Strafe sprinting would give the kb/m users a monumental advantage.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2013.02.24 22:09:00 - [29] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Strafe sprinting would give the kb/m users a monumental advantage. Absolutely true. That's why I proposed the Cos-¦ rolloff, if that's not aggressive enough any higher-order even power of Cos will do it.
Brass Stalker Elite Mercenaries 17	Posted - 2013.02.24 23:11:00 - [30] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Strafe sprinting would give the kb/m users a monumental advantage. i really don't see the logic in this.. besides the advantage that KB/M users already have over pad users how would this change anything? could you elaborate?



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