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trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
164
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:06:00 -
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I've been doing extensive playtesting on afk farming (over half my games easily). I'm looking for ideas to get the most out of it.
Variation 1(skirmish): spawn in MCC, drop uplink in far direction so all keyboard users are tempted to spawn in it, afk. Variation 2(ambush): spawn, kill reds, drop uplink in a hidden corner, hide and go afk.
Variation 2 requires more work, but produces more loot based on your hiding luck. Variation 1 is pretty certain loot per game, but long duration.
Tip for afkers: A squad seems like the perfect solution; as the leader can rotate and games get shorter. Afking in a squad would also bypass the war barge wait and just accommodate you to click MCC spawn if you notice. My alt "afk farming" will always accept squad requests, add if interested.
Share ideas to improve the yield, please :) |
N1ck Comeau
REGULATORS OF VALOR Orion Empire
34
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:19:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:I've been doing extensive playtesting on afk farming (over half my games easily). I'm looking for ideas to get the most out of it.
Variation 1(skirmish): spawn in MCC, drop uplink in far direction so all keyboard users are tempted to spawn in it, afk. Variation 2(ambush): spawn, kill reds, drop uplink in a hidden corner, hide and go afk.
Variation 2 requires more work, but produces more loot based on your hiding luck. Variation 1 is pretty certain loot per game, but long duration.
Tip for afkers: A squad seems like the perfect solution; as the leader can rotate and games get shorter. Afking in a squad would also bypass the war barge wait and just accommodate you to click MCC spawn if you notice. My alt "afk farming" will always accept squad requests, add if interested.
Share ideas to improve the yield, please :) Why would you post this garbage. Don't give people any ideas |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
325
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:23:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:trollsroyce wrote:I've been doing extensive playtesting on afk farming (over half my games easily). I'm looking for ideas to get the most out of it.
Variation 1(skirmish): spawn in MCC, drop uplink in far direction so all keyboard users are tempted to spawn in it, afk. Variation 2(ambush): spawn, kill reds, drop uplink in a hidden corner, hide and go afk.
Variation 2 requires more work, but produces more loot based on your hiding luck. Variation 1 is pretty certain loot per game, but long duration.
Tip for afkers: A squad seems like the perfect solution; as the leader can rotate and games get shorter. Afking in a squad would also bypass the war barge wait and just accommodate you to click MCC spawn if you notice. My alt "afk farming" will always accept squad requests, add if interested.
Share ideas to improve the yield, please :) Why would you post this garbage. Don't give people any ideas
It's a sad world we live in my friend. |
Invading Oren
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:29:00 -
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A thread about AFK farming.This should be interesting. GET HIM BOYS! |
Rifter7
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:32:00 -
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why can't we dislike posts? |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:55:00 -
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Dont drop uplink have finite spawn count? |
SIeepy Zan
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:57:00 -
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this has my approval +1 |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:57:00 -
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the droplink actually works, i scored a 100 WP in the MCC with one they were spawning at it for whatever reason
also a logi with 3 nanohives for the ragers friendly firing the AFKers, make sure they have enough ammo up there
maybe i'll make a logi with 2 nanos and a droplink..
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Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
200
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:01:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:the droplink actually works, i scored a 100 WP in the MCC with one they were spawning at it for whatever reason
also a logi with 3 nanohives for the ragers friendly firing the AFKers, make sure they have enough ammo up there
maybe i'll make a logi with 2 nanos and a droplink..
I have that fit, although I usually use it for actually playing the game...
...this is a fascinating idea though.
Read as: "CCP, when are you going to go after AFK farming in Dust?!" |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
164
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:01:00 -
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And people wonder why I want friendly fire. (facepalm) |
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SIeepy Zan
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:03:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:And people wonder why I want friendly fire. (facepalm) do it CCP |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:04:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Sobriety Denied wrote:the droplink actually works, i scored a 100 WP in the MCC with one they were spawning at it for whatever reason
also a logi with 3 nanohives for the ragers friendly firing the AFKers, make sure they have enough ammo up there
maybe i'll make a logi with 2 nanos and a droplink..
I have that fit, although I usually use it for actually playing the game... ...this is a fascinating idea though. Read as: "CCP, when are you going to go after AFK farming in Dust?!" a better question would be:
when are they going to reward me for playing the game instead of going afk?
example:
1rst skirmish of the day- 9 kills 1 death. I score 6k SP, full skrimish game.
2nd skirmish of the day- 0/0, camping MMC i score 8.5k
why am i being given bonus sp for camping the MCC?
if they wanna build a short bus then by all means i will get on it if it means i'm saving gas.. same way i view dust |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion
50
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:33:00 -
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We all know that AFK farming primarily depends on the proportion of rewards that stem from time spent in battle. I don't AFK, I have no trouble capping out days before reset just playing normally. Purely for the sake of argument however;
Are resupply WPs dependent on having given or received enemy damage?
If not you could do the following:
Spawn as squad in MCC during skirmish match.
Everyone is fit as a militia logi with both equip slots rocking nanohives and a weapon with a good ROF to ammo ratio (something slow firing with high starting ammo).
Everyone drops nanohives on or near one another.
Everyone stands in the overlapping nano fields.
Everyone uses a rubber band to hold down R1.
Combine this with other anti idle avoidance measures as necessary to last the match. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:34:00 -
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friendly fire will actually make this game fun.. some of us are not new to friendly fire because we started gaming before 2009. bring it. if FF is on i might actually jump from the MCC, colors and petty restrictions no longer mean anything only the people you trust = a true MMO.
seriously were talking about a sandbox here.. where green fights blue and blue fighting reds and everyone fighting everyone- pure chaos, pure mayhem, pure beauty, class death match minus the team malarkey. before there was team death match there was only death match.. and we will return soon to this mother of all game modes!!! pure mayhem! |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
164
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:43:00 -
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A duct tape setup for getting WP is a bit on the verge of exploiting. Afk farming is the kind of entrepreneurship where you sign up for anti-piracy protection on a ship and just don't move a finger when **** hits the fan. I can see bad entrepreneurship all over new Eden, heck its even in that future vision trailer where lazy mercs get the reset button from a dread on orbit.
There is no idle timer kick currently except when waiting for a spawn.
When do I afk farm, one might ask. Let's put it like this: I don't play dust to afk. I afk to play dust with better guns. Just picked a fresh batch of Thales, while watching tv. |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion
50
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:51:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:A duct tape setup for getting WP is a bit on the verge of exploiting. Afk farming is the kind of entrepreneurship where you sign up for anti-piracy protection on a ship and just don't move a finger when **** hits the fan. I can see bad entrepreneurship all over new Eden, heck its even in that future vision trailer where lazy mercs get the reset button from a dread on orbit.
There is no idle timer kick currently except when waiting for a spawn.
When do I afk farm, one might ask. Let's put it like this: I don't play dust to afk. I afk to play dust with better guns. Just picked a fresh batch of Thales, while watching tv.
So it's more in the vein of a merc who kicks back because he's hourly and the client is dumb enough to pay just as well for a job not done, caveat emptor? i think I see the distinction and that's fair enough, but this kind of "ethical AFK'er" approach isn't a group charter.
Exploiters gonna exploit, and while they ruin the game for some CCP inadequately addressing the issue ruins the game for more. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:56:00 -
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nothing is being exploited by gaining a few extra WP in the war barge, being that it was i killed 9 ppl made me gain less SP than camping the lolbarge all together i doubt 100 WP could exploit any more SP than getting actual kills did |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:06:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:trollsroyce wrote:A duct tape setup for getting WP is a bit on the verge of exploiting. Afk farming is the kind of entrepreneurship where you sign up for anti-piracy protection on a ship and just don't move a finger when **** hits the fan. I can see bad entrepreneurship all over new Eden, heck its even in that future vision trailer where lazy mercs get the reset button from a dread on orbit.
There is no idle timer kick currently except when waiting for a spawn.
When do I afk farm, one might ask. Let's put it like this: I don't play dust to afk. I afk to play dust with better guns. Just picked a fresh batch of Thales, while watching tv. So it's more in the vein of a merc who kicks back because he's hourly and the client is dumb enough to pay just as well for a job not done, caveat emptor? i think I see the distinction and that's fair enough, but this kind of "ethical AFK'er" approach isn't a group charter. Exploiters gonna exploit, and while they ruin the game for some CCP inadequately addressing the issue ruins the game for more.
my issue is im not being rewarded for playing the game i can do nothing and still make the same SP, the 1500 extra is not incentive, this whole system is fail resulting in us afkin for the sake of the eve player gaining passive sp or w/e, so in a way it's a protest against a failed experimental system in place for not rewarding us for doing well in the game while incentive to camp the MCC with mysterious bonus SP is in place. and dont no one start on me with that "bigger picture meta gaming" non sense were stuck in limbo here, there is no meta game unless u call the travesty of 8 vs 8 epic.
no ones trying to ruin pub match game here, if your expecting some randoms to carry you thru a pub match your doing it wrong. that seems to be the biggest problem of ppl vs afkers, because the afkers are not helping to win? the afkers are in protest of a failed system they are not trying to ruin the game, they're trying to prove that the system is failed incentives to play the match. the system does not work from an FPS standpoint. you make stupid systems they get explouted- thats the nature of online gaming. |
Bald Crusader
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:12:00 -
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I'm amazed there aren't more threads on farming.
Once you connect to a game you are in no way obligated to actually do anything.
CCP wholly endorses AFK activities in EVE so this is not really any different. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:45:00 -
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congrats you are right below child molesters on my list of the worst types of people. |
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JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:50:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:I've been doing extensive playtesting on afk farming (over half my games easily). I'm looking for ideas to get the most out of it.
Variation 1(skirmish): spawn in MCC, drop uplink in far direction so all keyboard users are tempted to spawn in it, afk. Variation 2(ambush): spawn, kill reds, drop uplink in a hidden corner, hide and go afk.
Variation 2 requires more work, but produces more loot based on your hiding luck. Variation 1 is pretty certain loot per game, but long duration.
Tip for afkers: A squad seems like the perfect solution; as the leader can rotate and games get shorter. Afking in a squad would also bypass the war barge wait and just accommodate you to click MCC spawn if you notice. My alt "afk farming" will always accept squad requests, add if interested.
Share ideas to improve the yield, please :)
hahaha so you are the person behind that alt 'afk farming' gave me a good laugh today |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
200
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:55:00 -
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Bald Crusader wrote:CCP wholly endorses AFK activities in EVE so this is not really any different.
Not exactly. CCP forbids botting and encourages (tacitly) activities like Hulkageddon, which is a player-led ganking event designed to kill AFK miners.
EVE does not have a redzone. Even in hisec (heavily policed star systems), it is possible to suicide gank very expensive ships in very cheap ships.
Without friendly fire, there is no way whatsoever for players to punish farmers.
I'm not saying that CCP needs to get out the ban hammer, just that redzone and (especially) MCC camping need to deprive people of SP.
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:58:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:I've been doing extensive playtesting on afk farming (over half my games easily). I'm looking for ideas to get the most out of it.
Variation 1(skirmish): spawn in MCC, drop uplink in far direction so all keyboard users are tempted to spawn in it, afk. Variation 2(ambush): spawn, kill reds, drop uplink in a hidden corner, hide and go afk.
Variation 2 requires more work, but produces more loot based on your hiding luck. Variation 1 is pretty certain loot per game, but long duration.
Tip for afkers: A squad seems like the perfect solution; as the leader can rotate and games get shorter. Afking in a squad would also bypass the war barge wait and just accommodate you to click MCC spawn if you notice. My alt "afk farming" will always accept squad requests, add if interested.
Share ideas to improve the yield, please :)
Just hit my cap AFK farming. It took me 2 days longer than what it does me normally. But I got a whole lot of things done. I got my taxes done which I prolly never would have gotten to thanks to the the great AFK Farmer network. It took my about 5 hours to get my taxes done and I got about 130K SP with boosters.
I also took CCPs advice and took a break from them game. I got myself a new TV and hooked up my PS3 to the new TV. Now I just turn that tV on, put myself in a skirmish and I am done. I had started doing that with my alt too. Right now I an watching Handsel and Gretel 3D while I get my SP. The best part is I got some wolfman PCP pistols today.
Keep it up old chum. Good job! Let these QQers cry about it. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
109
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Posted - 2013.02.24 01:01:00 -
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looks like you'll be hiding in hi sec, huh?
easy answer to all of this:
you come back to find you were tk'd about 52 times.
oh yeah
you're outta spawn drop suits.
Peace B |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
200
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Posted - 2013.02.24 01:06:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote: my issue is im not being rewarded for playing the game i can do nothing and still make the same SP, the 1500 extra is not incentive, this whole system is fail resulting in us afkin for the sake of the eve player gaining passive sp or w/e, so in a way it's a protest against a failed experimental system in place for not rewarding us for doing well in the game while incentive to camp the MCC with mysterious bonus SP is in place. and dont no one start on me with that "bigger picture meta gaming" non sense were stuck in limbo here, there is no meta game unless u call the travesty of 8 vs 8 epic.
no ones trying to ruin pub match game here, if your expecting some randoms to carry you thru a pub match your doing it wrong. that seems to be the biggest problem of ppl vs afkers, because the afkers are not helping to win? the afkers are in protest of a failed system they are not trying to ruin the game, they're trying to prove that the system is failed incentives to play the match. the system does not work from an FPS standpoint. you make stupid systems they get explouted- thats the nature of online gaming.
Admittedly, I can understand AFK farming as the only sort of "Jita Riots" that we can manage on Dust.
However, I also call QQ on the notion that people who suck at "doing well in the game" should earn a piitance of SP, ISK, and Salvage. Without a PVE learning experience, noobs have no options except pub matches.
Could it use rebalancing? Sure, but that rebalance needs to be balanced for both uberplayers and casuals, otherwise the game is dead in the water commercially.
Of course, once we can control districts, doing well will be far more rewarding (financially) than stinking. |
Bald Crusader
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:28:00 -
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fred orpaul wrote:congrats you are right below child molesters on my list of the worst types of people. This discussion aside it's amazing how unbalanced CCP treat people on these forums.
If I suggested a CCP, ISD or pro-CCP forumite was lower than a child molester you could expect me to be drummed out of here in moments.
However, when you want to say something that is pro-CCP you can obviously say it any way you like.
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AFK Infantry
Expert Intervention Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:47:00 -
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I'll write something, but I need to step away fo |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:53:00 -
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Honestly what's the point? yeah u get sp big whoop I play games to have fun what's the point of unlocking gear if ur just gonna camp in the mcc some people confuse the crape out of me |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1902
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Posted - 2013.02.24 03:12:00 -
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Ahh, Beta.
As far as I'm concerned, not a single player playing this game right now is even remotely good at FPS. If you play DUST 514, you're terribad at FPS. Yea, that sounds good. |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.02.24 03:39:00 -
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trollsroyce wrote:Lazy scum bag brags about not being able to play a game. Dear Devs,
You said you were tracking the AFK farming issue and actively working on a fix. My first suggestion is to track this Jerk (tm) and find out if he is A: Trolling, B: A fine example of Seraphin, C: Actually AFK farming.
Regardless of what you find, my previously emailed suggestion should be applied to Any character from the email addresses associated with this individual and possibly all associated IP address as mentioned. Yes, the included Google search will help with the task.
Enjoy yourselves now that you have found a target for your experiments.
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