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Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:48:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote: Meh, that depends on which Dropship was in the air and which Forge Gun was being used.
The proto breach deals something like 3.1k at the expense of movement and a longer charge up. It ought to tear through militia fits like nothing else.
But a militia FG can already tear through a militia ds. That's true, but militia AV pretty much tears through militia vehicles anyway... so I dunno where you're going with this point.
That there's no kill like overkill.
You're trading longer charge time and movement to do more damage than you need, when talking about taking out a militia ds. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:51:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote: Meh, that depends on which Dropship was in the air and which Forge Gun was being used.
The proto breach deals something like 3.1k at the expense of movement and a longer charge up. It ought to tear through militia fits like nothing else.
But a militia FG can already tear through a militia ds. That's true, but militia AV pretty much tears through militia vehicles anyway... so I dunno where you're going with this point. That there's no kill like overkill. You're trading longer charge time and movement to do more damage than you need, when talking about taking out a militia ds. Breach Forge Surfing on a Dropship is an Awesome Vehicle Killing Combo |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:53:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
And FG are easy to aim. I use a militia now and can take down any flying vehicle in a matter of moments. Hopefully other pilots will notice how OP this is and lobby for change.
Well you havent seen me flying then Lucky for you I suppose :P Try a forge gun. Its harder to Not hit the drop ship. if you have an armored Dropship you need 3 Things to survive SKILLS AFTERBURNERS ARMOR HARDENERS (good gunnners are optional but really usefull) same with shields but it's debatable on the hardener, I like to use them but others prefer to fit boosters.
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:55:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote: Meh, that depends on which Dropship was in the air and which Forge Gun was being used.
The proto breach deals something like 3.1k at the expense of movement and a longer charge up. It ought to tear through militia fits like nothing else.
But a militia FG can already tear through a militia ds. That's true, but militia AV pretty much tears through militia vehicles anyway... so I dunno where you're going with this point. That there's no kill like overkill. You're trading longer charge time and movement to do more damage than you need, when talking about taking out a militia ds. Breach Forge Surfing on a Dropship is an Awesome Vehicle Killing Combo dropship surfing seriously screws with my view, and surfers and afterburners don't mix well |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:56:00 -
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armor hardeners are better than shield ones becase it last 30 secs where you can still take fire or be in a fight to kill a bunch of reds
Shield hardeners not so much , if you activate them you have 10 secs to get out fast without getting shot dow because it doesnt last long but those are way better than boosters (if you have a decent shield recharge rate) |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:08:00 -
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gbghg wrote:
dropship surfing seriously screws with my view, and surfers and afterburners don't mix well
if they are on the nose of the Dropship you can fly just fine
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:11:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:gbghg wrote:
dropship surfing seriously screws with my view, and surfers and afterburners don't mix well
if they are on the nose of the Dropship you can fly just fine hmmm didn't know that, i'm gonna need to try it out at some point |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
431
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:22:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:It gets better once your dropship starts costing around 540k a pop and you've invested a good one million SP into it. ^This |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:27:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:It gets better once your dropship starts costing around 540k a pop and you've invested a good one million SP into it. ^This
better = more expensive while still getting **** for WP or ISK?
Oh here comes and RDV! "Look out!!" /boom. Now instead of losing 150-300k you just lost 500k. Isnt it feeling better already? |
usrevenge2
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:36:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
And FG are easy to aim. I use a militia now and can take down any flying vehicle in a matter of moments. Hopefully other pilots will notice how OP this is and lobby for change.
Well you havent seen me flying then doesn't matter how fast you are, forge guns are easy to aim, the only difference is they won't 1hit non-militia drop ships. there are plenty of times though my militia forge gun went up against pro dropship users with good fits, and it took a while to take them down but im not specced into forge guns at all XD
I posted that forge guns were OP in the closed beta, and though they aren't as bad now, they are still easily the best AV weapon in the game. |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
379
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:53:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:It gets better once your dropship starts costing around 540k a pop and you've invested a good one million SP into it. ^This better = more expensive while still getting **** for WP or ISK? Oh here comes and RDV! "Look out!!" /boom. Now instead of losing 150-300k you just lost 500k. Isnt it feeling better already? It's actually cheaper in the long run to upgrade past militia DS, you can easily lose a 300k isk DS every couple of matches, while my 450k isk DS will survive most matches |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:54:00 -
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usrevenge2 wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
And FG are easy to aim. I use a militia now and can take down any flying vehicle in a matter of moments. Hopefully other pilots will notice how OP this is and lobby for change.
Well you havent seen me flying then doesn't matter how fast you are, forge guns are easy to aim, the only difference is they won't 1hit non-militia drop ships. there are plenty of times though my militia forge gun went up against pro dropship users with good fits, and it took a while to take them down but im not specced into forge guns at all XD I posted that forge guns were OP in the closed beta, and though they aren't as bad now, they are still easily the best AV weapon in the game. its not about the speed but about the evasive manuvers if you see a Forge gun just trust to another direction, once their shot is out get away the fuel injectrs |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:56:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:It gets better once your dropship starts costing around 540k a pop and you've invested a good one million SP into it. ^This better = more expensive while still getting **** for WP or ISK? Oh here comes and RDV! "Look out!!" /boom. Now instead of losing 150-300k you just lost 500k. Isnt it feeling better already? It's actually cheaper in the long run to upgrade past militia DS, you can easily lose a 300k isk DS every couple of matches, while my 450k isk DS will survive most matches mine costs 700ISK it survives most matches but my lag + collison dmg = death |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:08:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:It gets better once your dropship starts costing around 540k a pop and you've invested a good one million SP into it. ^This better = more expensive while still getting **** for WP or ISK? Oh here comes and RDV! "Look out!!" /boom. Now instead of losing 150-300k you just lost 500k. Isnt it feeling better already? i have to agree with you the best weapon against a dropship is a RDV |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
74
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:12:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Saw a Heavy take out a Dropship with a single shot from his forge fun. I lmao'd and shook my head. Funny but oh so sad.
Dropships are pretty bad atm, However I don't have any experience flying one to give any legitimate input as to how they can be made better.
That and a forge gun is more powerful then a railgun.... never understood how an infantry can fire such a powerful weapon without being blown back |
Scalesdini
Universal Allies Inc.
58
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:12:00 -
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Just give dropships the ability to fit LampPostium Nanofibre Armor Plates.
/thread |
Monocle Cognac
Universal Allies Inc.
14
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:17:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:Saw a Heavy take out a Dropship with a single shot from his forge fun. I lmao'd and shook my head. Funny but oh so sad.
Dropships are pretty bad atm, However I don't have any experience flying one to give any legitimate input as to how they can be made better. That and a forge gun is more powerful then a railgun.... never understood how an infantry can fire such a powerful weapon without being blown back
Fat-Suit weighs them down. |
Thumb Green
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.02.24 00:30:00 -
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When you zoom out all the way on the tactical map; isn't that suppose to be the size of the maps we'll have eventually. If so, then they'll be huge and I'll be looking for a DS pilot to get me where I'm going. Hopefully by then ya'll guys will be getting sp for carrying troops around. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
431
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Posted - 2013.02.24 01:14:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote: better = more expensive while still getting **** for WP or ISK?
Oh here comes and RDV! "Look out!!" /boom. Now instead of losing 150-300k you just lost 500k. Isnt it feeling better already?
You're a drama queen. Yes RDVs are bad but if deploy them in the right spot they're not going to destroy anything. A good dropship with good modules is going to be supreme. My gunners can get upwards and beyond 30 kills in a match. I get 3rd place for flying. |
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