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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:25:00 -
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They need countermeasures having to outrun swarms is ridiculous and annoying, and if he got taken down by 1 forge gun or 3 swarms he's either in a militia dropship or he's not got enough tank in his fitting |
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:04:00 -
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shooting the missle's is a re-tarded manner of getting rid of them.
"oh no we've got swarms incoming"
"quick deploy the countermeasure's"
"they don't exist"
"well, we'll just have to shoot high speed missile's speeding towards us with a blaster turret fitted onto a high speed aircraft in the middle of evasive manoeuvres"
I mean seriously? |
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:06:00 -
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Kesi Raae Kaae wrote:Militia dropshops are pretty terrible and easily dealt with by AV, as an eager pilot starting out you'll lose a lot of Dropships and ISK trying to make them work before you have the skills to survive and make an impact in a game. They're the least noob-friendly thing in the game, but with some perserverence they can become fairly amazing. See here for more details: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34362&find=unread
I'm not a rookie pilot if that was directed at me and yes i do use afterburners, but its ******** that we are in a civilizations with freaking dreadnaughts in space but we don't have flares or some kind of ECM |
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:16:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:gbghg wrote:They need countermeasures having to outrun swarms is ridiculous and annoying, and if he got taken down by 1 forge gun or 3 swarms he's either in a militia dropship or he's not got enough tank in his fitting False, forge guns can do over 5000 damage in a single shot to dropship. That's more than a decked drop ship would have and if by some miracle it did not instantly kill the ds, he would be in burning range. The fact that this shot can come out of nowhere is more worrisome
That depends on the forge gun and his sp levels with it, and it's not taking into account what modules the pilot has active that would increase his ehp (boosters,hardeners,reppers etc) i've had DS's survive two FG hits in close succession due to armour reppers pulling me out of the burn zone (and yes i know those would be lower end FG) |
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:25:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:gbghg wrote:They need countermeasures having to outrun swarms is ridiculous and annoying, and if he got taken down by 1 forge gun or 3 swarms he's either in a militia dropship or he's not got enough tank in his fitting False, forge guns can do over 5000 damage in a single shot to dropship. That's more than a decked drop ship would have and if by some miracle it did not instantly kill the ds, he would be in burning range. The fact that this shot can come out of nowhere is more worrisome That depends on the forge gun and his sp levels with it, and it's not taking into account what modules the pilot has active that would increase his ehp (boosters,hardeners,reppers etc) i've had DS's survive two FG hits in close succession due to armour reppers pulling me out of the burn zone (and yes i know those would be lower end FG) That's an armor ship, FG does 150% to shields. Plus you can't really run a hardener constantly, and since there's no way to predict that first shot, you might not have a ship left to activate hardeners after it. Also not like they would help when you're a burning hull. You're right though, militia forge guns do take an extra shot or so to blow up a ds. And FG are easy to aim. I use a militia now and can take down any flying vehicle in a matter of moments. Hopefully other pilots will notice how OP this is and lobby for change.
I have to disagree with you on that one FG aren't OP they're mainly an anti-tank weapon, if we nerf them they won't be able to perform effectively against tanks, if anything DS should get a hp buff. and that dropship was a shield one I just got very lucky |
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:53:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:
And FG are easy to aim. I use a militia now and can take down any flying vehicle in a matter of moments. Hopefully other pilots will notice how OP this is and lobby for change.
Well you havent seen me flying then  Lucky for you I suppose :P Try a forge gun. Its harder to Not hit the drop ship. if you have an armored Dropship you need 3 Things to survive SKILLS AFTERBURNERS ARMOR HARDENERS (good gunnners are optional but really usefull)
same with shields but it's debatable on the hardener, I like to use them but others prefer to fit boosters.
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Posted - 2013.02.23 22:55:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:
Meh, that depends on which Dropship was in the air and which Forge Gun was being used.
The proto breach deals something like 3.1k at the expense of movement and a longer charge up. It ought to tear through militia fits like nothing else.
But a militia FG can already tear through a militia ds. That's true, but militia AV pretty much tears through militia vehicles anyway... so I dunno where you're going with this point. That there's no kill like overkill. You're trading longer charge time and movement to do more damage than you need, when talking about taking out a militia ds. Breach Forge Surfing on a Dropship is an Awesome Vehicle Killing Combo
dropship surfing seriously screws with my view, and surfers and afterburners don't mix well |
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:11:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:gbghg wrote:
dropship surfing seriously screws with my view, and surfers and afterburners don't mix well
if they are on the nose of the Dropship you can fly just fine
hmmm didn't know that, i'm gonna need to try it out at some point |
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Posted - 2013.02.23 23:53:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:It gets better once your dropship starts costing around 540k a pop and you've invested a good one million SP into it. ^This better = more expensive while still getting **** for WP or ISK? Oh here comes and RDV! "Look out!!" /boom. Now instead of losing 150-300k you just lost 500k. Isnt it feeling better already?
It's actually cheaper in the long run to upgrade past militia DS, you can easily lose a 300k isk DS every couple of matches, while my 450k isk DS will survive most matches |
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