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Jonny RIC0
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:48:00 -
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The Assault Rifle is, and always will be, the bastion of the less imaginative and/or specialised FPS player.
That's not an insult, I'm primarily an AR user.
It is the simpler and less rewarding path but nonetheless it's accessibility is crucial to the game. When people like me tire of using the AR I'm sure we will eventually take the plunge into something more complex and tactical. In terms of the GEK specifically, I think a minor adjustment to either the price, the recoil, or both will even things up satisfactorily and not be a deal-breaker for the grunts like myself.
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:49:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
The AR skill itself reduces recoil.
We sure about that? It says 'bonus to kick and spread" not "decreases" or "increases", who knows what the hell that could mean. Edit: The exact wording is "Assault rifle dispersion and kick bonus: 5%"
lol true enough, seems redundant though to give it more kick and spread  |
Crimson Moon V
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:54:00 -
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Jonny RIC0 wrote:The Assault Rifle is, and always will be, the bastion of the less imaginative and/or specialised FPS player.
That's not an insult, I'm primarily an AR user.
It is the simpler and less rewarding path but nonetheless it's accessibility is crucial to the game. When people like me tire of using the AR I'm sure we will eventually take the plunge into something more complex and tactical. In terms of the GEK specifically, I think a minor adjustment to either the price, the recoil, or both will even things up satisfactorily and not be a deal-breaker for the grunts like myself.
No, the AR is for people who are good at every situation. Why spec smg if have good long range aim. Why spec lazors if you are a beast in cqc. AR is for the jack of all trades type of players. I would be limiting myself if I played anything else.
At least thats how I see it. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:55:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Jonny RIC0 wrote:The Assault Rifle is, and always will be, the bastion of the less imaginative and/or specialised FPS player.
That's not an insult, I'm primarily an AR user.
It is the simpler and less rewarding path but nonetheless it's accessibility is crucial to the game. When people like me tire of using the AR I'm sure we will eventually take the plunge into something more complex and tactical. In terms of the GEK specifically, I think a minor adjustment to either the price, the recoil, or both will even things up satisfactorily and not be a deal-breaker for the grunts like myself.
No, the AR is for people who are good at every situation. Why spec smg if have good long range aim. Why spec lazors if you are a beast in cqc. AR is for the jack of all trades type of players. I would be limiting myself if I played anything else. At least thats how I see it.
Why I went into AR after my viziam, cuz with AR you can do it all. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:57:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:
No, the AR is for people who are good at every situation. Why spec smg if have good long range aim. Why spec lazors if you are a beast in cqc. AR is for the jack of all trades type of players. I would be limiting myself if I played anything else.
At least thats how I see it.
The full phrase is "Jack of all trades, master of none", superior skill and it's versatility do make up for it's short comings though, but the superior skill part could also apply to almost any other weapon.
Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:lol true enough, seems redundant though to give it more kick and spread
Beats me lol, maybe it's their way of balancing out the Duvolle and higher tier ARs?  |
Jonny RIC0
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:59:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Jonny RIC0 wrote:The Assault Rifle is, and always will be, the bastion of the less imaginative and/or specialised FPS player.
That's not an insult, I'm primarily an AR user.
It is the simpler and less rewarding path but nonetheless it's accessibility is crucial to the game. When people like me tire of using the AR I'm sure we will eventually take the plunge into something more complex and tactical. In terms of the GEK specifically, I think a minor adjustment to either the price, the recoil, or both will even things up satisfactorily and not be a deal-breaker for the grunts like myself.
No, the AR is for people who are good at every situation. Why spec smg if have good long range aim. Why spec lazors if you are a beast in cqc. AR is for the jack of all trades type of players. I would be limiting myself if I played anything else. At least thats how I see it.
You wouldn't be limiting yourself... you would be challenging yourself.
I suppose the question is: why do you play computer games? |
Crimson Moon V
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.02.23 01:07:00 -
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I don't play computer games.
I play video games to dominate. If I wanted a challenge I would pick up a rubix cube. Besides people don't spec into lazors because they want a challenge. They spec into it because they have good long range aim and they want to dominate with what suits their strengths best. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.23 02:01:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:I don't play computer games. I play video games to dominate. If I wanted a challenge I would pick up a rubix cube. Besides people don't spec into lazors because they want a challenge. They spec into it because they have good long range aim and they want to dominate with what suits their strengths best.
Maybe this is the case in the circles you run in, but it's not like that for everyone. A lot of people I know who spec into non-AR weapons do it because it creates a new challenge. It's something new to master, and creates more variation in gameplay. Personally, I find ARs boring. That's not to say that I find AR users boring, it's just not for me.
I suppose I've just spent too many years playing videogames, but the specialized weapons give me something more nuanced to play around with and tend to require better problem solving to use effectively.
Furthermore, in a squad based shooter, I think there's added value to being one specialized component in a larger squad of specialized users (including squad mates who are "jack of all trades" AR users). |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.23 04:30:00 -
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I think AR is perfect the way it is and everyone that I know seems to think the same, many say "what else are they going to nerf about ARs?". They've been nerfed enough IMO, and they're at a good balanced state. Other guns beat AR at their respective ranges just fine, but in the hands of a good player who has good aim and battlefield awareness it's a beast because of it's versatility when it comes to ranges that it can perform in. For that reason I think AR is one of, if not the best weapon for getting high kill counts in pubs.
As for why it's a popular weapon... Think about it, it's an AR... that's most likely going to be the default weapon many players go to, expect more variety in the near future.
The fact that it's versatile makes it a great choice of weapon to spec into, at least far enough for the GEK (which isn't much SP). That means people can run around and still perform well, they don't have to stick with others because of their weapons inability to perform at ranges. Especially good choice for people who don't run with squads on a regular basis, just another reason I would expect it to be a popular weapon choice.
No surprise to me.
I believe that if two corps of equal skill level go against each other, the one using more of a variety of weapons will come out on top. The team full of ARs will lose, and the one with MDs, Lasers, ARs, forges, and HMGs will win. Balancing shouldn't be done based off of pub results because it's easy to make an OK weapon look amazing when you're against a bunch of average (at best) players. I'll go 72-4 vs randoms w/ the AR, but put me up against a competent team that uses a variety of weapons and sticks to each of their advantages... Psssht, that's when I start realizing that I need to specialize as well sooner or later.
AR # 1 for pubstomping though. |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.23 05:15:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:
No, the AR is for people who are good at every situation. Why spec smg if have good long range aim. Why spec lazors if you are a beast in cqc. AR is for the jack of all trades type of players. I would be limiting myself if I played anything else.
At least thats how I see it.
So pretty much, you are saying "why bother to even attempt to use a different weapon if I can always win with my AR"? Dunno about you but for me that comes off as a mayor balance issue, if the AR its gonna outmatch every single weapon out there why even bother?
This is an issue that REALLY ticks me off: the glorification of the AR, because **** everything else in a FPS, RIFLES COME FIRST,. Not gonna say thay are Op'd but when everything else it seems either underwhelming or nerfed to hell and back its hard no to think like this. besides lets face it, since EVERYBODY and the grandmas are using an AR loadout, do you think people would openly admit they have an adventage? Come on.
Maybe ARs are balanced but if that is the case everything else seem unbalanced, underwhelming or broken. |
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