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GeneralButtNaked Burnwall Industries 54	Posted - 2013.02.21 05:52:00 - [1] - Quote Especially given the starter pack, we need p2p trading ASAP. They put a band aid on the skill cap, now lets get a sloppy trading window ASAP, so we can pollute local into a bazaar/auction house until CCP can give us a real market. Lets get those BPOs out to the less fortunate. Edit: I should be clear, I am talking about things that can be fixed in a quick manner. New suits, skills, weapons, et al need to be playtested, so expecting a hot fix isn't realistic.
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.02.21 06:04:00 - [2] - Quote Don't fret. Something sloppy will be barfed up, but it will not be ASAP but so late it's a crisis as per the usual CCP practice.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2013.02.21 07:12:00 - [3] - Quote We need basic trading so bad ;_;
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.21 07:27:00 - [4] - Quote its ok ill just hold onto these unneeded drop ships im probable never going to use them... there cool .... plz isk for drop ships ! i dont want them !
Sheriff Clark Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 91	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:15:00 - [5] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Whats more important than player trading? Slavery is a vile institution and is unfit for discussion in the General Forums where Young Minds can be tainted by its evil. ((Also, The trading and selling of accounts is against the rules)) Warning issued. Two more and I will have to temp ban you. --The Sheriff's Office.
GeneralButtNaked Burnwall Industries 54	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:27:00 - [6] - Quote Sheriff Clark wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: Whats more important than player trading? Slavery is a vile institution and is unfit for discussion in the General Forums where Young Minds can be tainted by its evil. ((Also, The trading and selling of accounts is against the rules)) Warning issued. Two more and I will have to temp ban you. --The Sheriff's Office. Thumbs down.
Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:33:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 758	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:40:00 - [8] - Quote Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming.

Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:44:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Very Soon would be very good to start saying something. It's been weeks since we didnt get any solid news. Cast 514 ep9 was all talk, we need screens, actual news, deblogs at some point.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:46:00 - [10] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Very Soon would be very good to start saying something. It's been weeks since we didnt get any solid news. Cast 514 ep9 was all talk, we need screens, actual news, deblogs at some point. I think they've technically been on vacation till the 21st (Even if some of them got back to work early). I think we can expect some murmur of information in the near future.


CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 758	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:48:00 - [11] - Quote We're working on opening the information pipeline up for you guys. I can't guarantee you'll get information on everything very soon, but we're going to try to get it to you in a reasonable manner.

iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:49:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Im confused. While I appreciate your posting, its really great to have a Developer actually come in and talk to us. I wonder if you can help me answer a question. Why do we have two community managers, whoes extent of thier interaction seems to be posting rote announcements and making 0-8 twitter remarks a day? I mean, isn't the definition of a "community manager" someone who manages the community, including you know (crazy idea incoming) talking regulary with the majority of the community through Dust 514s own forums. Twitters nice but I think they should move away from that and start talking to people on the forums. Because its comes across as elitist. Also why is the interaction with the Dust team about 85% less than interaction with devs on the eve online forum. Im not saying this to be a cynical troll, Im saying this because the lack of interaction with the community is becoming more painfully obvious with every passing day. We have two community managers whoes interactions with the community at large is worryingly minimal (IRC doesn't count) and the slack is been taken up by a fiction writing dev, props to you sir, mad props.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:50:00 - [13] - Quote I know they were on holidays the past couple of weeks. But still, the latest devblog is the one about open beta coming. And the last real devblogs is from 10th december about war and profit. And it already was pretty empty. Time to talk about what people are playing dust for : persistence, conquest, corporations,
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:57:00 - [14] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I know they were on holidays the past couple of weeks. But still, the latest devblog is the one about open beta coming. And the last real devblogs is from 10th december about war and profit. And it already was pretty empty. Time to talk about what people are playing dust for : persistence, conquest, corporations, Yeah I will agree, its kinda odd when they say they're going to ramp up the frequency of Devblogs and then post them less often. Oh well...who knows how the CCP Corporate Pipeline works.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.02.21 08:58:00 - [15] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I know they were on holidays the past couple of weeks. But still, the latest devblog is the one about open beta coming. And the last real devblogs is from 10th december about war and profit. And it already was pretty empty. Time to talk about what people are playing dust for : persistence, conquest, corporations, Thats another thing thats wierd, consistantly, high tier devs promise devs blogs and they never arrive when they're supposed to. I mean how difficult is it to post a dev blog? I get the whole spell check, review procedures that have to exist to make sure everyone is on the same page, but ccp internal magazine is published more regularly than a Dust dev blog . Its really not good enough guys. Are the webpages made of Zydrine II that can only be mined in a stargateless system in the Black rise?
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:01:00 - [16] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I know they were on holidays the past couple of weeks. But still, the latest devblog is the one about open beta coming. And the last real devblogs is from 10th december about war and profit. And it already was pretty empty. Time to talk about what people are playing dust for : persistence, conquest, corporations, Thats another thing thats wierd, consistantly, high tier devs promise devs blogs and they never arrive when they're supposed to. I mean how difficult is it to post a dev blog? I get the whole spell check, review procedures that have to exist to make sure everyone is on the same page, but ccp internal magazine is published more regularly than a Dust dev blog . Its really not good enough guys. Are the webpages made of Zydrine II that can only be mined in a stargateless system in the Black rise? Yeah, i can dig up 2 maybe 3 videos from September, December, and then last cast 514 where you can pretty much hear "Hey no worries, devblogs every week now guys, woot woot !" And then, jack....

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 758	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:08:00 - [17] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: Post with many good points. We are aware of the disparity in the amount of dev blogs, forum posts, and other interaction in comparison to the EVE Online devs. Let me assure you we are working to get you guys more of those things and we understand there has been a lack of it recently. There are some hurdles to overcome on our end in making this happen but we're actively discussing them.

iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:09:00 - [18] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: iceyburnz wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: I know they were on holidays the past couple of weeks. But still, the latest devblog is the one about open beta coming. And the last real devblogs is from 10th december about war and profit. And it already was pretty empty. Time to talk about what people are playing dust for : persistence, conquest, corporations, Thats another thing thats wierd, consistantly, high tier devs promise devs blogs and they never arrive when they're supposed to. I mean how difficult is it to post a dev blog? I get the whole spell check, review procedures that have to exist to make sure everyone is on the same page, but ccp internal magazine is published more regularly than a Dust dev blog . Its really not good enough guys. Are the webpages made of Zydrine II that can only be mined in a stargateless system in the Black rise? Yeah, i can dig up 2 maybe 3 videos from September, December, and then last cast 514 where you can pretty much hear "Hey no worries, devblogs every week now guys, woot woot !" And then, jack.... Its hard to see through the great "forum wall", Im sure there are lots of productive "lets get communication sorted guys" meetings in Dust HQ. Without communication players make up thier own minds about whats going on. I personally, am starting to think the DUST team arn't taking communication with the player base seriously. Or at least the lessons the eve team has learned about communication hasn't been taken on board by thier collegues. At least thats how it appears.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:11:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: iceyburnz wrote: Post with many good points. We are aware of the disparity in the amount of dev blogs, forum posts, and other interaction in comparison to the EVE Online devs. Let me assure you we are working to get you guys more of those things and we understand there has been a lack of it recently. There are some hurdles to overcome on our end in making this happen but we're actively discussing them. I think the community will genuinely appreciate it. Thanks for posting again.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:14:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: iceyburnz wrote: Post with many good points. We are aware of the disparity in the amount of dev blogs, forum posts, and other interaction in comparison to the EVE Online devs. Let me assure you we are working to get you guys more of those things and we understand there has been a lack of it recently. There are some hurdles to overcome on our end in making this happen but we're actively discussing them. Fair enough. I think everyone understands that what you guys are doing is exceedingly difficult and will of course come with its own problems, so delays are expected. Honestly I think people would be happy with something like you just posted "Hey guys we want to show you some new things but unfortunately we're running into problems so we can't right now." but as a more..."official" post if you will. It may seem superficial to some, but I think a lot of your players just like to be reassured that you ARE working on it, even if its not a fully fleshed out DevBlog, some transparency on what you're working on/trying to fix would do wonders in regards to community unrest when it comes to lack of information. We are all obviously enjoying the game enough that we're eager to learn more! Just make an effort to keep us all more in the loop, even if you cant give us much solid information about content. But that's just how I see it.

iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:20:00 - [21] - Quote Im worried Ive derailed this thread a little then I realised it actually answers the thread title. Whats more important than player trading? Communication from the devs.
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:24:00 - [22] - Quote A short quickfix to this problem would be to give us corporate hangars. It should be FAR easier to implement than a market, so it should be step 1 towards this. And, it will help many people still.
Bald Crusader Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:24:00 - [23] - Quote Unless I'm very much mistaken a CCP employee just extracted the pole from their clacker and world did not end with a flood of negativity. Interesting lesson for all parts of CCP there to be honest. Delivering games can be hard. That most people get. Being treated like crap because "the man's" been telling employees to toe the party line - most people don't get that or see it as necessary.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:25:00 - [24] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: Im worried Ive derailed this thread a little then I realised it actually answers the thread title. Whats more important than player trading? Communication from the devs. Agreed
Vin Vicious Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:59:00 - [25] - Quote you guys are aware Chinese new years(Spring festivals) is going on until the 25th, and fanfest is around the corner. im sure CCP is focused on preparing their presentations and getting fanfest squared up. with that said, im sure their saving all the juicy news on DUST for FF.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:59:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Just like all those dev blogs?
i-get-pubstomped all-day Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:20:00 - [27] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Just like all those dev blogs? Oh you. I see what you did there with your sarcasm and silliness. Since when has CCP ever done anything on time?
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:22:00 - [28] - Quote i-get-pubstomped all-day wrote: Since when has CCP ever done anything on time?

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 758	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:50:00 - [29] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Just like all those dev blogs? We're working on one now, actually.

dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:53:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Just like all those dev blogs? We're working on one now, actually. Sounds familiar :P

Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 906	Posted - 2013.02.21 12:54:00 - [31] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Just like all those dev blogs? We're working on one now, actually. ....... If this includes direct money transfers between Dusters then this is going to make the game so much better!!!!!
Doc Kok Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 74	Posted - 2013.02.21 13:07:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Just like all those dev blogs? We're working on one now, actually. it's about time!
slystylz vassar Military Gamers 7	Posted - 2013.02.21 13:51:00 - [33] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: Its hard to see through the great "forum wall", Im sure there are lots of productive "lets get communication sorted guys" meetings in Dust HQ. Without communication players make up thier own minds about whats going on. I personally, am starting to think the DUST team arn't taking communication with the player base seriously. Or at least the lessons the eve team has learned about communication hasn't been taken on board by thier collegues. At least thats how it appears. Good point! Communication is very important for the development of player interest in Dust514. I feel we won't have a CSM8 (Council of Stellar Management) seat this year, but we should develop a community and ideas that are forward moving for good game ideas. Is "Dust HQ" a site we can accomplish this at? What tools do we have now that can be used to develop a Merc Planetary Council, (MPC)? How can we improve those tools? If we show an interest in community and development CCP will listen and contribute to addressing our ideas more completely. My fist recommendation would be, to fix this forum, the accessibility is limited when compared to Eve Online forum. Secondly, we need a solid list of development priorities, as seen by player wants, CCP wants and capabilities. CCP can you show us a short term, 3 month, plan of the issues you are working on? Something general as 'we are working on core gameplay' just doesn't reach your clients here. To me, 3 month = soon (tm), very soon (tm) = 1 month, is this a fair term to use? Good point iceyburnz
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 4	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:55:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Its depressing to see that everything we want is coming, but it never comes and when it does its months after. I would love to feel like this game is constantly growing and progressing but 90% of the time its in stasis.
I HateMyFace BetaMax. 13	Posted - 2013.02.21 15:02:00 - [35] - Quote Devs talk to us every single day you're just not there to listen.
Hunter Junko WARRIORS 1NC 45	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:20:00 - [36] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: plz isk for drop ships ! i dont want them ! an officer weapon for each Dropship Make it happen
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:30:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: We're working on opening the information pipeline up for you guys. I can't guarantee you'll get information on everything very soon, but we're going to try to get it to you in a reasonable manner. I applaud your efforts and I know the developers involved know the community at large is frustrated. Just these very long gaps of well nothing new is straining the community as a whole. I also know that developer time is probably better spent on game development not writing blogs, but the lack of both consumer intake of either is starving the short attention-ed fps players a wee bit including all of our newest neophytes that have no idea how this game is evolving. Those who know what is up with CCP and development in dust is getting very strained out and getting hard pressed for evidence over and over again. I mean its like the vehicle capacitor on the dev blog that never happened is what is probably beginning to cause some animosity in publishing blogs, especially after the overall negative feedback the salvage blog provided. I do ask this this though that if anything would help calm us down by a delaying action any short bit would probably be the long overdue dust 514 csm minutes which is no longer critical to game development as its well out of the current cycle window but we would like to know what the elected officials think, ccp thinks, and hopefully beneficial to you guys in the office is what we think about the minutes. I understand that the FW and Dropsuit blogs are waiting for art and final feature nails before publishing and are bottle necked because of it. But the Dust 514 CSM minutes are not. I think its time you put away the prod and took out the whip for the guy sitting on them for the last 3 months As for the Answer to the Original Poster I consider factional warfare a far more important feature.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:36:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Trading is coming. I can't say much more than that, except that it definitely is coming. Just like all those dev blogs? We're working on one now, actually. NeverTM
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:40:00 - [39] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I consider factional warfare a far more important feature. This can't be stated enough At least we got a small preview with Retribution 1.1 notes
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2013.02.21 17:43:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: We're working on opening the information pipeline up for you guys. I can't guarantee you'll get information on everything very soon, but we're going to try to get it to you in a reasonable manner. This is so needed.

SSBBW Amber Church of the Unforgiven 26	Posted - 2013.02.21 18:07:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: iceyburnz wrote: Post with many good points. We are aware of the disparity in the amount of dev blogs, forum posts, and other interaction in comparison to the EVE Online devs. Let me assure you we are working to get you guys more of those things and we understand there has been a lack of it recently. There are some hurdles to overcome on our end in making this happen but we're actively discussing them. Marketing people...its always the marketing people......
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 29	Posted - 2013.02.21 19:10:00 - [42] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: iceyburnz wrote: Post with many good points. We are aware of the disparity in the amount of dev blogs, forum posts, and other interaction in comparison to the EVE Online devs. Let me assure you we are working to get you guys more of those things and we understand there has been a lack of it recently. There are some hurdles to overcome on our end in making this happen but we're actively discussing them. Lots of talk is fine. Give us some action before the end of the month, or I'll chalk this up to just another placation attempt.
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2013.02.22 21:59:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: We're working on opening the information pipeline up for you guys. I can't guarantee you'll get information on everything very soon, but we're going to try to get it to you in a reasonable manner. CCP, do not fool yourselves into believing that THIS represents adequate feedback to your player base. The fact that this post garnishes more likes than the OP does not represent approval for this response. It demonstrates, instead, the desperate need from all of us for basic information from you. Isn't DUSTsupposed to be a huge business step for CCP? And Sony? Yet, since the September time frame last year we haven't heard much at all from Mr Reid & Co, and very damn little from you, the developers. Enough with the 'soon'. How about When? Your company is playing hardball but it doesn't feel to me like you're bringing your A game from a business marketing and information standpoint. Step it up please. If you want to start the fusion furnace that a rabidly engaged customer base can give you, you've got to change your pace.
zr500efi AD EXTREMUM 0	Posted - 2013.02.22 22:26:00 - [44] - Quote Gauder Berwyck wrote: A short quickfix to this problem would be to give us corporate hangars. It should be FAR easier to implement than a market, so it should be step 1 towards this. And, it will help many people still. Bingo!
usrevenge2 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 64	Posted - 2013.02.22 22:57:00 - [45] - Quote the 2 things I want the most is the market and the single player/co-op content. as much as I like killing people, it's getting old, I want to kill rogue drones and sell the loot for some other ******* to use.


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