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Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:57:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Jaiden Longshot wrote:Like I said....both paths are effective. Are you arguing that only your way is the best way? Which route do you think is more effective? 1. Unlock expensive suits first and equip them with less effective gear but with plenty of free CPU and power grid. 2. Maximize lower cost suits and gear and move to the more expensive suit when you can't squeeze any more benefit out of them. I know the route I'm taking. The first thing to train to the next tier will also be my weapon.
That depends...If you're talking about Assault....
You can't get near the tank a PROTO suit can nor can you carry as many equipment items.
I'm not going to assume you haven't been here for a while but most of the older closed testers have seen the difference between the gun variants narrowed to where many of us think you are better off using STD or ADV weapons for the fitting benefits.
A PROTO suit player with complex extenders will not only out tank you by a mile but he will also likely have RE's to go with the hive or a hive and injector combo....or a repper...or an uplink. We do CB quit a bit so having more fitting options is important and that extra equipment slot is a distinct advantage when you have a whole squad of Assault guys with 2 equipment slots.
Personally, I've done it both ways but I'm glad I knocked PROTO out early this time. Especially considering I can't decide on a primary weapon specialization.
To each their own....just saying your dismissing the thoughts of very successful corps who have been at this a while.
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Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
263
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Posted - 2013.02.20 20:03:00 -
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I could have saved up the sp for the proto minnie suit but it offends my delicate Gallente sensibilities.
I mean HONESTLY how can you call yourselves an advanced culture and run around using rust as a basic building block for your suits.
and so many hard angles?!? are your trying to get tetanus?
I'll save up my hard earned SP for more sensible green and rounded suits! |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2013.02.20 20:55:00 -
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Jaiden Longshot wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Jaiden Longshot wrote:Like I said....both paths are effective. Are you arguing that only your way is the best way? Which route do you think is more effective? 1. Unlock expensive suits first and equip them with less effective gear but with plenty of free CPU and power grid. 2. Maximize lower cost suits and gear and move to the more expensive suit when you can't squeeze any more benefit out of them. I know the route I'm taking. The first thing to train to the next tier will also be my weapon. That depends...If you're talking about Assault.... You can't get near the tank a PROTO suit can nor can you carry as many equipment items. I'm not going to assume you haven't been here for a while but most of the older closed testers have seen the difference between the gun variants narrowed to where many of us think you are better off using STD or ADV weapons for the fitting benefits. A PROTO suit player with complex extenders will not only out tank you by a mile but he will also likely have RE's to go with the hive or a hive and injector combo....or a repper...or an uplink. We do CB quit a bit so having more fitting options is important and that extra equipment slot is a distinct advantage when you have a whole squad of Assault guys with 2 equipment slots. Personally, I've done it both ways but I'm glad I knocked PROTO out early this time. Especially considering I can't decide on a primary weapon specialization. To each their own....just saying your dismissing the thoughts of very successful corps who have been at this a while.
I've been here since closed beta.
The point brought up earlier was ignoring core skills to get into a prototype logistics suit as fast as possible. At this point unlocking a prototype suit means the vast majority of your SP is in the suit and not much else. I have 3.2 mil SP entirely in logistics and core skills and nothing else and my best suit is the A-Series. Others probably have a bit more SP than I do because I've been working overtime since before the reset. If I had aimed for the suit I would have no other skills trained today.
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:16:00 -
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Going proto suit 1st doesn't work with heavy |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:20:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Going proto suit 1st doesn't work with heavy :''''( I feel your pain.
Luckily we can still strap on a Boundless and 2 complex damage mods easily enough |
Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
216
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:33:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Jaiden Longshot wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Jaiden Longshot wrote:Like I said....both paths are effective. Are you arguing that only your way is the best way? Which route do you think is more effective? 1. Unlock expensive suits first and equip them with less effective gear but with plenty of free CPU and power grid. 2. Maximize lower cost suits and gear and move to the more expensive suit when you can't squeeze any more benefit out of them. I know the route I'm taking. The first thing to train to the next tier will also be my weapon. That depends...If you're talking about Assault.... You can't get near the tank a PROTO suit can nor can you carry as many equipment items. I'm not going to assume you haven't been here for a while but most of the older closed testers have seen the difference between the gun variants narrowed to where many of us think you are better off using STD or ADV weapons for the fitting benefits. A PROTO suit player with complex extenders will not only out tank you by a mile but he will also likely have RE's to go with the hive or a hive and injector combo....or a repper...or an uplink. We do CB quit a bit so having more fitting options is important and that extra equipment slot is a distinct advantage when you have a whole squad of Assault guys with 2 equipment slots. Personally, I've done it both ways but I'm glad I knocked PROTO out early this time. Especially considering I can't decide on a primary weapon specialization. To each their own....just saying your dismissing the thoughts of very successful corps who have been at this a while. I've been here since closed beta. The point brought up earlier was ignoring core skills to get into a prototype logistics suit as fast as possible. At this point unlocking a prototype suit means the vast majority of your SP is in the suit and not much else. I have 3.2 mil SP entirely in logistics and core skills and nothing else and my best suit is the A-Series. Others probably have a bit more SP than I do because I've been working overtime since before the reset. If I had aimed for the suit I would have no other skills trained today.
IMO, it's even more important in Logistics to get that suit leveled up b/c you are severely lacking tank until ADV. At least in Assault you can rock the Type II fairly successfully for quite a while and the PROTO Logi is one fo the better suits in the game right now and certainly the most versatile.
I'm not doubting that you didn't think your skill plan out. As I said....both ways can be effective.
However, dismissing the benefits of PROTO in favor of core skills is kind of short sided, IMO. I have gone at it both ways in multiple suit classes. I would be even more inclined to knock out the Logi suit skills very early on if I was on that path.
Would I have it at 3.2 mil SP....maybe not...but I would already be in an advanced suit and already saving for PROTO.
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Jaiden Longshot
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
216
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:34:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Going proto suit 1st doesn't work with heavy
100% agree with waiting on the PROTO heavy |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:47:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Going proto suit 1st doesn't work with heavy :''''( I feel your pain. Luckily we can still strap on a Boundless and 2 complex damage mods easily enough Yup. Except I'd go with dual complex shields
Dmg mods are EZ MOAD NUBYZ STA7UZ |
CLOSEDBETA TSTR-est E3
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:53:00 -
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Prepare your bodies?
What is your left nut going to finally drop so you can stop whining into coms with that pre pubescent nasally voice of yours?
You're so diluted kid thinking that you and the G_IMPS are the originators of anything in this game...you need to get real. |
Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
164
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Posted - 2013.02.20 22:08:00 -
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CLOSEDBETA TSTR-est E3 wrote:diluted
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Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.02.20 22:09:00 -
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<3 my proto logi suit. |
NightEagle11
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
17
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Posted - 2013.02.20 22:46:00 -
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Veritas Vitae wrote:<3 my proto logi suit.
I tried to tell him he wasnt the first |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
51
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Posted - 2013.02.20 22:47:00 -
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NightEagle11 wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:<3 my proto logi suit. I tried to tell him he wasnt the first
He's Alldin though |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:07:00 -
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I thought you quit after the wipe |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
77
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:11:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Meh... Proto suit does not = god mode. One little flux grenade and a few MD and you die like the rest.
You underestimate me. P.S. Good job CCP for making a great suit, I would write some paragraphs describing the Logi's full potential but I fear others would eventually use it against me.
Don't worry Aldin it will only last 2-3 more weeks when i get mine. Too many distractions o/w i would have had it by now. Oh well. Im coming for you. |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
24
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:30:00 -
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Going proto too early can be hurtful. I pwn protos all day with my advanced A. I think any logi, as long as he has 2.5 mil sp or better if speced right could afford to go proto, plus it would be the biggest upgrade they can get. I just decided a few days ago that saving for it would yield the biggest return over minute upgrades at this time. Now that players have started getting those higher tier weapons, all the shield and armor you can fit on a type a is not enough to stand up to but a few duvolle burst, or that dreaded instant pop shotgun rounds to the head. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
169
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:14:00 -
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Doshneil Antaro wrote:Going proto too early can be hurtful. I pwn protos all day with my advanced A. I think any logi, as long as he has 2.5 mil sp or better if speced right could afford to go proto, plus it would be the biggest upgrade they can get. I just decided a few days ago that saving for it would yield the biggest return over minute upgrades at this time. Now that players have started getting those higher tier weapons, all the shield and armor you can fit on a type a is not enough to stand up to but a few duvolle burst, or that dreaded instant pop shotgun rounds to the head.
Indeed, keep the logi thread going guys.
Also, ONLY ONE MORE DAY!!! |
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