stfu or post something useful

Good one Don, now go somewhere else.

Anybody out there with an actual valid point?

you mean like you?

let's face it, the only reason you're here, whining about hip fire mechanics on sniper rifles, is because someone killed you while hip firing a sniper rifle, not because you have any VALID POINTS.

Here's a valid point, literally every other weapon has highly reduced hip fire accuracy.

Like you, you mean...

Yet another stupid troll thread about how "I WANT...." or "I THINK"......

gave up posting anything useful on these forums a long time ago as everyone is so self absorbed and obsessed with their own e-peen.

Use your brain, A sniper rifle is inherently precise in it's aim, you think it should get worse just because you aren't looking down the scope, this makes no sense what-so-ever. Does the barrel change shape when you hip fire? NO!

also, shotguns fire cartridges full of shot, sniper rifles fire a single slug. Your stupid analogy is stupid.

@ Mavado : read the OP. I said no-scope not quick scope.

@Kamiya : Use your brain, why is the AR less accurate when firing form the hip? Does the barrel change shape?

EDIT: A shot gun can fire a solid slug or a spread of shot. I was not refering specifically to a Dust shotgun.

Does it? Or does the player's accuracy change when hip firing, clarification on this would be necessary before this debate can go any further.

Yes it does, stand still and aim with an smg then try the same while ads, only exceptions are the laser rifle, sniper rifle (I usually snipe so I know this), and possibly the scrambler

Yes it does, stand still and aim with an smg then try the same while ads, only exceptions are the laser rifle, sniper rifle (I usually snipe so I know this), and possibly the scrambler

it actually takes skill to quick scope an **** in dust
so i say no to this thread
**** if my sniper can run around and help support at medium-close range cuz hes good enough to pull off quick scopes and no scopes then i support that

much more useful than a ******* mountain sniper miles away on a hill which is like 99% of the blue dot snipers

wow Sextus, looks like the Gayar Snipicus are out in droves this morning! How dare you attack their very livelyhood!

I wish they would just remove that imbalanced POS and start over, but they won't.

I agree with sextus, from a pure FPS standpoint, it is actually rather difficult to no-scope in most other games. furthermore, it's not like he's asking CCP to make it so it won't fire unless scoped, just less accurate. The sniper rifle is by definition a long-range weapon, if you can run and gun with it in the middle of the battlefield, wheres the drawback? what is the disadvantage to having all that killing power at range?

that said, my biggest qualm with the current sniper rifle is it's 100% accuracy when crouched. as well as 100% accuracy recovery after each shot. not even my burst rifle has that.

add in some pesistant scope sway (less as you skill more into sniping, but still always there) and less than 100% accuracy recovery, then I have no further complaints. I would support perhaps a module that could reduce, even eliminate sway, but it would take up a valuable slot on your suit, IE one less dmg mod.

Yes it does, stand still and aim with an smg then try the same while ads, only exceptions are the laser rifle, sniper rifle (I usually snipe so I know this), and possibly the scrambler

try no scoping and consistently killing someone before they kill u and then comment on whether its that easy or not

should be promoting snipers that actually ******* move than hill snipers at least u hav a chance to kill those snipers that fail at no scoping rather than a hill sniper just sitting there on a nanohive pointing and clicking

PS: agree with 100% accuracy recovery after each shot is bs

Then why is the tac rifle not on the exception list? I have to test the scrambler to be sure and the laser has no recoil period

try no scoping and consistently killing someone before they kill u and then comment on whether its that easy or not

should be promoting snipers that actually ******* move than hill snipers at least u hav a chance to kill those snipers that fail at no scoping rather than a hill sniper just sitting there on a nanohive pointing and clicking

PS: agree with 100% accuracy recovery after each shot is bs

Not on YOUR list. I've not noticed even a slight drop in accuracy when hipfiring the tac rifle in single shots. The recoil after the shot makes your second shot off, but the first has always been just as accurate.

I've never been hit with a sr when someone no scopes. Maybe you should use some common sense and gtfo of the way.

Try hipfiring at a wall after shooting a wall then compare your spread

how could you possibly know that. How could you possibly know that he was or was not looking down his scope?

I can tell you that with practice I'm getting better at hammering 3 rounds into somebody with my Tactical SR at short ranges. I think its lame as F#$k and at the very least it should suffer from recoil after the first shot.

Yeah... I agree that no scope shot is suck. I practice that hard but it just for fun. Not a serious. It's completely gamble.

Sniper Rifles fired from the hip must have bullet spread, and it should be huge. I don't want this gun turning into a second rate scrublet shot gun. This needs to be fixed before it becomes a problem.

Only with the charge sniper rifle do you have any accuracy with hip firing. That little charge circle that comes up helps in hip firing.

Quick scoping however takes skill. There are very few snipers who can actually pull off a quick scope. Sleepy Zan is the only other sniper I know other than me than can pull it off. But the success rate is 1 in 3 for me.

I can tell you that with practice I'm getting better at hammering 3 rounds into somebody with my Tactical SR at short ranges.

Why equate skill with a weapon to nerfing it? If you look at it this way Nova Knifes should be nerfed because Maken Tosch uses them like a ninja. Practise always makes perfect. Just because you or someone else gets good with a weapon and figures out different ways to use them, it doesnt mean you bring down the nerf hammer on them.

I will investigate this today for certain. I will report the spread difference if any here

Sniper rifles are the most dangerous weapon in the game for infantry at long range. There should be no amount of skill that enables them to be powerful at close range. I believe that's what the "balance" concept is all about -- taking strengths at the cost of weaknesses. Sniper rifles have a very small demand for skill relative to their power. Vesting even further power in the hands of the relatively few snipers out there who are somewhat capable FPS players, such that they're a serious danger at close or at range, seems to contravene the idea behind these weapons being balanced around their extremely long range killing potential.

Sniper rifles are the most dangerous weapon in the game for infantry at long range. There should be no amount of skill that enables them to be powerful at close range. I believe that's what the "balance" concept is all about -- taking strengths at the cost of weaknesses. Sniper rifles have a very small demand for skill relative to their power. Vesting even further power in the hands of the relatively few snipers out there who are somewhat capable FPS players, such that they're a serious danger at close or at range, seems to contravene the idea behind these weapons being balanced around their extremely long range killing potential.

Oh, and there is bullet spread when firing from the hip

/thread

I said this before -_- but NOOOO no one would listen earlier to me in the thread.

Good one Don, now go somewhere else.

Anybody out there with an actual valid point?

Here's a valid point, literally every other weapon has highly reduced hip fire accuracy.

Like you? Your whining about a sniper hip firing, first of all its totally unrealistic, the barrel doesn't change shape from hip fire. Second of all you have to be REALLY bad at this game to get killed by sniper hip fire a lot.

Woah, chill out there brodude

If you say so im just SOOO annoyed with these "OMG IT KILLED ME FROM COMPLETE LUCK.... NOTHING CAN KILL ME HOW DARE YOU KILL ME" rage threads that are so absurd its not even funny.

stfu or post something useful

Are you posting in the right thread, or are you really basing this all off speculation?

Why else would you whine about a sniper hip fire kill? It makes more sense to figure out how to avoid getting killed and saving time instead of whining on the forums which is futile for the most part.

@ Mavado : read the OP. I said no-scope not quick scope.

@Kamiya : Use your brain, why is the AR less accurate when firing form the hip? Does the barrel change shape?

EDIT: A shot gun can fire a solid slug or a spread of shot. I was not refering specifically to a Dust shotgun.

ppl keep confusing quickscope and a quick hardscope.


you can't qs in this game. QS is when you use the game's aimbot to get hits. You fire just as the game registers that the crosshairs are up, which is before you can actually see through the scope. If you're quickscoping, you can't see through the scope to take a shot.

If you can see through the scope and need to aim, it's a hardscope. You can do different things like dragscope and whatever, but they are all variants of a hardscope.


Quickscoping is an exploit. Since it became more common (especially in the CoD series) they've tried to get rid of it.

idk why people in this game keep confusing the two -.- it's the only game i've seen that ppl do this in.

ppl keep confusing quickscope and a quick hardscope.


you can't qs in this game. QS is when you use the game's aimbot to get hits. You fire just as the game registers that the crosshairs are up, which is before you can actually see through the scope. If you're quickscoping, you can't see through the scope to take a shot.

If you can see through the scope and need to aim, it's a hardscope. You can do different things like dragscope and whatever, but they are all variants of a hardscope.


Quickscoping is an exploit. Since it became more common (especially in the CoD series) they've tried to get rid of it.

idk why people in this game keep confusing the two -.- it's the only game i've seen that ppl do this in.

Congratulations on making up the word "quick-hardscoping"

Your definition of quick-hardscoping is actually quick-scoping
And your definition of quick-scoping is technicaly no -scoping

You are the only one who is confused

Sniper Rifles fired from the hip must have bullet spread, and it should be huge. I don't want this gun turning into a second rate scrublet shot gun. This needs to be fixed before it becomes a problem.

2 random little factoids, since I CBA to read every post to see if anyone noticed the first one.

1) Sextus is the one doing the no scoping, not getting no scoped.

2) snipers are miniature ******* railguns. I want to see you hold a railgun at your waist and fire it with 100% accuracy.

I think its funny how "gamers" think QSing is skillful. Don't matter with the announcement of the PS4 & this still being a "beta" it'll be dead before the actuall launch.

Use your brain, A sniper rifle is inherently precise in it's aim, you think it should get worse just because you aren't looking down the scope, this makes no sense what-so-ever. Does the barrel change shape when you hip fire? NO!