Yeah... I agree that no scope shot is suck. I practice that hard but it just for fun. Not a serious. It's completely gamble.

Sniper Rifles fired from the hip must have bullet spread, and it should be huge. I don't want this gun turning into a second rate scrublet shot gun. This needs to be fixed before it becomes a problem.

Only with the charge sniper rifle do you have any accuracy with hip firing. That little charge circle that comes up helps in hip firing.

Quick scoping however takes skill. There are very few snipers who can actually pull off a quick scope. Sleepy Zan is the only other sniper I know other than me than can pull it off. But the success rate is 1 in 3 for me.

I can tell you that with practice I'm getting better at hammering 3 rounds into somebody with my Tactical SR at short ranges.

Why equate skill with a weapon to nerfing it? If you look at it this way Nova Knifes should be nerfed because Maken Tosch uses them like a ninja. Practise always makes perfect. Just because you or someone else gets good with a weapon and figures out different ways to use them, it doesnt mean you bring down the nerf hammer on them.

I will investigate this today for certain. I will report the spread difference if any here

Sniper rifles are the most dangerous weapon in the game for infantry at long range. There should be no amount of skill that enables them to be powerful at close range. I believe that's what the "balance" concept is all about -- taking strengths at the cost of weaknesses. Sniper rifles have a very small demand for skill relative to their power. Vesting even further power in the hands of the relatively few snipers out there who are somewhat capable FPS players, such that they're a serious danger at close or at range, seems to contravene the idea behind these weapons being balanced around their extremely long range killing potential.

Sniper rifles are the most dangerous weapon in the game for infantry at long range. There should be no amount of skill that enables them to be powerful at close range. I believe that's what the "balance" concept is all about -- taking strengths at the cost of weaknesses. Sniper rifles have a very small demand for skill relative to their power. Vesting even further power in the hands of the relatively few snipers out there who are somewhat capable FPS players, such that they're a serious danger at close or at range, seems to contravene the idea behind these weapons being balanced around their extremely long range killing potential.

Oh, and there is bullet spread when firing from the hip

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I said this before -_- but NOOOO no one would listen earlier to me in the thread.

Good one Don, now go somewhere else.

Anybody out there with an actual valid point?

Here's a valid point, literally every other weapon has highly reduced hip fire accuracy.

Like you? Your whining about a sniper hip firing, first of all its totally unrealistic, the barrel doesn't change shape from hip fire. Second of all you have to be REALLY bad at this game to get killed by sniper hip fire a lot.

Woah, chill out there brodude

If you say so im just SOOO annoyed with these "OMG IT KILLED ME FROM COMPLETE LUCK.... NOTHING CAN KILL ME HOW DARE YOU KILL ME" rage threads that are so absurd its not even funny.

stfu or post something useful

Are you posting in the right thread, or are you really basing this all off speculation?

Why else would you whine about a sniper hip fire kill? It makes more sense to figure out how to avoid getting killed and saving time instead of whining on the forums which is futile for the most part.

@ Mavado : read the OP. I said no-scope not quick scope.

@Kamiya : Use your brain, why is the AR less accurate when firing form the hip? Does the barrel change shape?

EDIT: A shot gun can fire a solid slug or a spread of shot. I was not refering specifically to a Dust shotgun.

ppl keep confusing quickscope and a quick hardscope.


you can't qs in this game. QS is when you use the game's aimbot to get hits. You fire just as the game registers that the crosshairs are up, which is before you can actually see through the scope. If you're quickscoping, you can't see through the scope to take a shot.

If you can see through the scope and need to aim, it's a hardscope. You can do different things like dragscope and whatever, but they are all variants of a hardscope.


Quickscoping is an exploit. Since it became more common (especially in the CoD series) they've tried to get rid of it.

idk why people in this game keep confusing the two -.- it's the only game i've seen that ppl do this in.