DUST Search - Okay, I think I found a paradox in the storyline of Dust 514/ EVE Online

General Tiberius1 wrote:

Severus Smith wrote:

The Amarr wanted to preserve battle experience and create the "ultimate" soldier. They had many elite soldiers who were retired, missing limbs, or otherwise out of action who had invaluable experience. So they used this tech to put their elite soldiers consciousness into genetically beefed up bodies with additional organs, alloyed bones, and dulled nerves. Now they had a formidable, and highly experienced, clone army. The other factions noticed, stole the sleeper technology from the Amarr, and started their own clone programs in suit. [Sources: DUST Opening Movie, Stranded - Part 6 (Chronicle), Stranded - Part 7 (Chronicle)]

The Amarr soon discovered that their original clones were tainted; the sleeper tech made the clones go insane. So a secret meeting of the faction leaders occurred and Jamyl gave everyone else free untainted clone tech and almost begged them to use it instead of the sleeper tech. The other faction leaders were hesitant but took the technology, each mentioning similar observations surrounding the numbers "514" and their soldiers. [Source: 514 (Chronicle)]

The other factions switched out the original tainted version 1 clone tech for the clean version given out by Jamyl. That's who we are. We are the "clean" version 2 clones. [My assumption]

Several of the original (sleeper tech) clones went crazy and started causing incidents all over New Eden. One shot Tibus Heth, several others bombed Caldari cities. In response, Tibus Heth wanted all the original clones destroyed as a preemptive strike and ordered the Caldari Navy to fire on their own planets to destroy the clone facilities housing the originals (most of which were sane, not yet experiencing the 514 issues). [Source: The Better Part of Valor (Chronicle)]

We, being clean versions (without sleeper tech), were called in to help the Caldari destroy the originals. This takes care off the paradox. They aren't enlisting DUST clones to help them eliminate all DUST clones. They are enlisting clean version 2 clones to help them eliminate tainted version 1 (sleeper tech) clones.

I hope that helps,

I CAME IN DURING MORDUES TRIALS, AS ONE OF THE TYPE ONES, I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP LIVING!

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JP the Merc Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:23:00 - [1] - Quote So, after the Factions have found out that they could make soldiers immortal, it was used on the mercenaries. And since we cannot be killed, only way to drive us back is by hiring more skilled mercenaries than the opposing Faction. But while they are so heavily focused on mercenaries, what about their own military soldiers? Why would they hire mercenaries if they have their own soldiers? Is it like they don't have their own soldiers any more? Because it is not like the Factions hire one or two mercenaries. It is like combo of people from all kind of factions. So I think that is a bit of paradox. Any thoughts?
Jonny RIC0 ROGUE SPADES 38	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:30:00 - [2] - Quote JP the Merc wrote: So, after the Factions have found out that they could make soldiers immortal, it was used on the mercenaries. And since we cannot be killed, only way to drive us back is by hiring more skilled mercenaries than the opposing Faction. But while they are so heavily focused on mercenaries, what about their own military soldiers? Why would they hire mercenaries if they have their own soldiers? Is it like they don't have their own soldiers any more? Because it is not like the Factions hire one or two mercenaries. It is like combo of people from all kind of factions. So I think that is a bit of paradox. Any thoughts? Don't think about it too much. It's like the movie Looper... makes sense until you analyze it, so why ruin the fun? ignorance is bliss.
MrShooter01 Expert Intervention Caldari State 268	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:35:00 - [3] - Quote "Alright boys, new orders came in! We're going to attack an army of people who won't stay dead and are armed with assault rifles that cost more than your year's salary. If we succeed in killing them all, they will attack again tomorrow. Any questions?" "Yeah, what were the consequences for going AWOL again?"
JP the Merc Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:44:00 - [4] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: "Alright boys, new orders came in! We're going to attack an army of people who won't stay dead and are armed with assault rifles that cost more than your year's salary. If we succeed in killing them all, they will attack again tomorrow. Any questions?" "Yeah, what were the consequences for going AWOL again?" But then why won't the factions apply the technology to the military soldiers then they have no reason to go AWOL
Alcare Xavier Golden DUST University Ivy League 30	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:48:00 - [5] - Quote We're the soldiers that have gone AWOL already.
Preacher Death 2 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 20	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:54:00 - [6] - Quote JP the Merc wrote: So, after the Factions have found out that they could make soldiers immortal, it was used on the mercenaries. And since we cannot be killed, only way to drive us back is by hiring more skilled mercenaries than the opposing Faction. But while they are so heavily focused on mercenaries, what about their own military soldiers? Why would they hire mercenaries if they have their own soldiers? Is it like they don't have their own soldiers any more? Because it is not like the Factions hire one or two mercenaries. It is like combo of people from all kind of factions. So I think that is a bit of paradox. Any thoughts? lifestyle choice probably . immortality doesn't seem to fun if on a daily basis your getting blown in half.
JP the Merc Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:56:00 - [7] - Quote Alcare Xavier Golden wrote: We're the soldiers that have gone AWOL already. Are you sure? Then why aren't they after us?
Kriegs son Jaeger Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 5	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:56:00 - [8] - Quote There's a few considerations. For one thing, immortality isn't a new concept in EVE, capsuleers have been doing it for thousands of years now. It's just that their method is more costly and complex as I understand it. So killing someone that is immortal isn't seen as entirely redundant. You obviously have to defend yourself and you're still setting them back. For another, if you read some of the fluff, a lot of the initial test subjects ended up going absolutely nutters with visions of a red world and the numbers "514" being repeated between any of the afflicted individuals. Though apparently the amarr claim to have fixed this issue. At any rate, the Caldari leader (Tiberius Heth afaik?) was nearly killed by an assassin who presumably is linked to the mercs and the new tech, and thus began a crusade against them, and thus why the factions are testing, but not openly using, the technology. It wouldn't be a very good thing if half of your galaxy spanning infantry forces suddenly went nuts and decided they wanted to shoot you. And happened to be immortal so long as clones existed to replace them.
Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 95	Posted - 2013.02.20 00:59:00 - [9] - Quote We didn't start as mercs, we became them, when the factions grew to fear us. We used to be simple soldiers, though elite. And just because we can be re-cloned doesn't make us immortal. Clone supplies are not infinite.
Kriegs son Jaeger Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 5	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:25:00 - [10] - Quote Sontie wrote: We didn't start as mercs, we became them, when the factions grew to fear us. We used to be simple soldiers, though elite. And just because we can be re-cloned doesn't make us immortal. Clone supplies are not infinite. Its not the clone that makes us immortal, it's that our "being" is stored independent of our bodies. Our knowledge, personality, skills can instantly be transferred to another body at any given time, though I couldn't say about range. The body is merely a vessel, we could still exist without it.

Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1593	Posted - 2013.02.20 01:54:00 - [11] - Quote Looks like the faction empires got themselves into a bind.
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 324	Posted - 2013.02.20 02:00:00 - [12] - Quote The reason they created the clone soldiers when they discovered the technology is that we're capable of using weapons that would kill a person whose body wasn't engineered and can be aggressive in a way that conventional forces cannot. Basically, normal soldiers wouldn't stand a chance against us. You should read Templar One, it explains a lot of this. It started out as a purely Amarr military thing which then got loose.
ugg reset ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2013.02.20 02:07:00 - [13] - Quote EHEM* this is a GAME. That is all
Deadeyes Anterie Crimson Ravens Talons RISE of LEGION 269	Posted - 2013.02.20 02:13:00 - [14] - Quote JP the Merc wrote: So, after the Factions have found out that they could make soldiers immortal, it was used on the mercenaries. And since we cannot be killed, only way to drive us back is by hiring more skilled mercenaries than the opposing Faction. But while they are so heavily focused on mercenaries, what about their own military soldiers? Why would they hire mercenaries if they have their own soldiers? Is it like they don't have their own soldiers any more? Because it is not like the Factions hire one or two mercenaries. It is like combo of people from all kind of factions. So I think that is a bit of paradox. Any thoughts? I always figured there were lots of faction based clones, and that we were just the elite ones that were brought in when **** really needed to get done.
Centurion mkII SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 10	Posted - 2013.02.20 02:39:00 - [15] - Quote I think the goverments will do it at some point but its very expensive. I think because of that the already established mercenary groups have more money to spend and probably made there best soldiers immortal and some of the not so good mountain snipers.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2013.02.20 03:03:00 - [16] - Quote We exist because of simple economics. It takes a huge amount of time and money to train a soldier. Each one you lose sets you back in both money, time, but mostly the military knowledge and experience. As a government you would love to be able to redeploy those same soldiers over and over again. No widows, no depressing caskets coming home, and a reduced training budget. Add a bonus that the new soldier never stops learning and is not afraid to die, and you have a irresistible urge to create a clone army. Not everyone of us is a mercenary. In fact most clone forces were created and run by the factions. We just happen to be the product of Mordu's Legion which is an established standard mercenary force. Thus we ourselves are mercenaries.
Alcare Xavier Golden DUST University Ivy League 30	Posted - 2013.02.21 23:18:00 - [17] - Quote JP the Merc wrote: Alcare Xavier Golden wrote: We're the soldiers that have gone AWOL already. Are you sure? Then why aren't they after us? Take it you never heard about the live event? Still sorry I missed that...
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 283	Posted - 2013.02.22 09:33:00 - [18] - Quote JP the Merc wrote: Alcare Xavier Golden wrote: We're the soldiers that have gone AWOL already. Are you sure? Then why aren't they after us? They are, but factions like Murdu's Legion, the Sisters of Eve and others gave us a safe haven, erased our identities etc. Now clone soldiers are such a problem the empires have forgotten all about thier pet projects running off and are happy to hire us to counter other clone soldiers.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 72	Posted - 2013.02.22 10:24:00 - [19] - Quote Quote: lifestyle choice probably . immortality doesn't seem to fun if on a daily basis your getting blown in half. Yeah, i think most people would break and go insane after being shot & killed a couple of times. And about why the regular army can't fight, if you have to face off against people that cannot die, the normal rules of engagement no longer apply, you shoot someone to the face that can't be cloned, good one, you shoot someone to the face that can clone, expect him being back all pissed off with intel of your fortification. Theres just no stopping em.
Freyar Tarkin Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 95	Posted - 2013.02.22 13:50:00 - [20] - Quote If I remember correctly, wasn't clone technology supposed to be stupid-expensive anyway, making it only reasonable for pod-pilots in the first place?

Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 92	Posted - 2013.02.22 14:05:00 - [21] - Quote IIRC: There's something special about the gray matter of the people who are mercs. Immortality doesn't work on everyone. That's why the clones discovered in the intro movie are so groundbreaking. But yes, it is a game, and immortality is a convenient excuse to let you keep respawning in a match. I give CCP credit for being the only FPS maker to even attempt to make sense out of respawn.
DeeJay One BetaMax. 9	Posted - 2013.02.22 14:11:00 - [22] - Quote JP the Merc wrote: So, after the Factions have found out that they could make soldiers immortal, it was used on the mercenaries. And since we cannot be killed, only way to drive us back is by hiring more skilled mercenaries than the opposing Faction. But while they are so heavily focused on mercenaries, what about their own military soldiers? Why would they hire mercenaries if they have their own soldiers? Is it like they don't have their own soldiers any more? Because it is not like the Factions hire one or two mercenaries. It is like combo of people from all kind of factions. So I think that is a bit of paradox. Any thoughts? You should read "Templar One" if you want some back story. Basically the Ammar "created" our technology and the other factions "stole" it before they've been stomped by the Ammar. We're expensive as hell, as our implants are coming from Sleepers found in wormhole space and have to be gathered because nobody, except maybe the Jove, has the tech do to it.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.02.22 14:17:00 - [23] - Quote Non immortal soldiers = future NPC enemies? Nah, they'll probably stick with drones.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.22 14:31:00 - [24] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: IIRC: There's something special about the gray matter of the people who are mercs. Immortality doesn't work on everyone. That's why the clones discovered in the intro movie are so groundbreaking. But yes, it is a game, and immortality is a convenient excuse to let you keep respawning in a match. I give CCP credit for being the only FPS maker to even attempt to make sense out of respawn. That's empyreans only and even then they take years of intense training to prepare for a transfer. They're like 1 in a billion. Immortal Soldiers requirements are far lower closer 1 in a 100 or 1000 almost. However phsycology, and previous experience is probably most looked at feature and not the grey matter. After all the that they still have to pass initiation, which concludes with killing one's original self. Now as for the reasons in hiring mercs to fight mercs, is that non mercs die much faster, don't have personal shields, can't barely use half of the equipment we have access to and it takes so few of them to turn a fair fight into a massacre. So you distract or keep the mercenaries at bay while your normal go off and do the more tedious work such as moving artillery pieces around, blowing up clone enclaves, and eliminating non-immortal corporation staff critical to its survival.
Relyt R Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2013.02.22 16:25:00 - [25] - Quote Also, the soldiers have different clone tech entirely. They use altered brains with an additional lobe that coordinates everything, and implants retrieved from the sleepers that nobody really understands yet. The soldiers also don't feel pain so much, which is probably part of how they can deal with getting killed repeatedly.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.22 16:29:00 - [26] - Quote Also the clones have been super soldiered up, complete with ally reinforced skeletons and additional organs and support.
Severus Smith ZionTCD Legacy Rising 163	Posted - 2013.02.22 16:52:00 - [27] - Quote The Amarr wanted to preserve battle experience and create the "ultimate" soldier. They had many elite soldiers who were retired, missing limbs, or otherwise out of action who had invaluable experience. So they used this tech to put their elite soldiers consciousness into genetically beefed up bodies with additional organs, alloyed bones, and dulled nerves. Now they had a formidable, and highly experienced, clone army. The other factions noticed, stole the sleeper technology from the Amarr, and started their own clone programs in suit. [Sources: DUST Opening Movie, Stranded - Part 6 (Chronicle), Stranded - Part 7 (Chronicle)] The Amarr soon discovered that their original clones were tainted; the sleeper tech made the clones go insane. So a secret meeting of the faction leaders occurred and Jamyl gave everyone else free untainted clone tech and almost begged them to use it instead of the sleeper tech. The other faction leaders were hesitant but took the technology, each mentioning similar observations surrounding the numbers "514" and their soldiers. [Source: 514 (Chronicle)] The other factions switched out the original tainted version 1 clone tech for the clean version given out by Jamyl. That's who we are. We are the "clean" version 2 clones. [My assumption] Several of the original (sleeper tech) clones went crazy and started causing incidents all over New Eden. One shot Tibus Heth, several others bombed Caldari cities. In response, Tibus Heth wanted all the original clones destroyed as a preemptive strike and ordered the Caldari Navy to fire on their own planets to destroy the clone facilities housing the originals (most of which were sane, not yet experiencing the 514 issues). [Source: The Better Part of Valor (Chronicle)] We, being clean versions (without sleeper tech), were called in to help the Caldari destroy the originals. This takes care off the paradox. They aren't enlisting DUST clones to help them eliminate all DUST clones. They are enlisting clean version 2 clones to help them eliminate tainted version 1 (sleeper tech) clones. I hope that helps,
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.02.22 17:09:00 - [28] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: "Alright boys, new orders came in! We're going to attack an army of people who won't stay dead and are armed with assault rifles that cost more than your year's salary. If we succeed in killing them all, they will attack again tomorrow. Any questions?" "Yeah, what were the consequences for going AWOL again?" BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.02.22 17:15:00 - [29] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: The Amarr wanted to preserve battle experience and create the "ultimate" soldier. They had many elite soldiers who were retired, missing limbs, or otherwise out of action who had invaluable experience. So they used this tech to put their elite soldiers consciousness into genetically beefed up bodies with additional organs, alloyed bones, and dulled nerves. Now they had a formidable, and highly experienced, clone army. The other factions noticed, stole the sleeper technology from the Amarr, and started their own clone programs in suit. [Sources: DUST Opening Movie, Stranded - Part 6 (Chronicle), Stranded - Part 7 (Chronicle)] The Amarr soon discovered that their original clones were tainted; the sleeper tech made the clones go insane. So a secret meeting of the faction leaders occurred and Jamyl gave everyone else free untainted clone tech and almost begged them to use it instead of the sleeper tech. The other faction leaders were hesitant but took the technology, each mentioning similar observations surrounding the numbers "514" and their soldiers. [Source: 514 (Chronicle)] The other factions switched out the original tainted version 1 clone tech for the clean version given out by Jamyl. That's who we are. We are the "clean" version 2 clones. [My assumption] Several of the original (sleeper tech) clones went crazy and started causing incidents all over New Eden. One shot Tibus Heth, several others bombed Caldari cities. In response, Tibus Heth wanted all the original clones destroyed as a preemptive strike and ordered the Caldari Navy to fire on their own planets to destroy the clone facilities housing the originals (most of which were sane, not yet experiencing the 514 issues). [Source: The Better Part of Valor (Chronicle)] We, being clean versions (without sleeper tech), were called in to help the Caldari destroy the originals. This takes care off the paradox. They aren't enlisting DUST clones to help them eliminate all DUST clones. They are enlisting clean version 2 clones to help them eliminate tainted version 1 (sleeper tech) clones. I hope that helps, I CAME IN DURING MORDUES TRIALS, AS ONE OF THE TYPE ONES, I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP LIVING!
James Thraxton The Exemplars 73	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:17:00 - [30] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: Severus Smith wrote: The Amarr wanted to preserve battle experience and create the "ultimate" soldier. They had many elite soldiers who were retired, missing limbs, or otherwise out of action who had invaluable experience. So they used this tech to put their elite soldiers consciousness into genetically beefed up bodies with additional organs, alloyed bones, and dulled nerves. Now they had a formidable, and highly experienced, clone army. The other factions noticed, stole the sleeper technology from the Amarr, and started their own clone programs in suit. [Sources: DUST Opening Movie, Stranded - Part 6 (Chronicle), Stranded - Part 7 (Chronicle)] The Amarr soon discovered that their original clones were tainted; the sleeper tech made the clones go insane. So a secret meeting of the faction leaders occurred and Jamyl gave everyone else free untainted clone tech and almost begged them to use it instead of the sleeper tech. The other faction leaders were hesitant but took the technology, each mentioning similar observations surrounding the numbers "514" and their soldiers. [Source: 514 (Chronicle)] The other factions switched out the original tainted version 1 clone tech for the clean version given out by Jamyl. That's who we are. We are the "clean" version 2 clones. [My assumption] Several of the original (sleeper tech) clones went crazy and started causing incidents all over New Eden. One shot Tibus Heth, several others bombed Caldari cities. In response, Tibus Heth wanted all the original clones destroyed as a preemptive strike and ordered the Caldari Navy to fire on their own planets to destroy the clone facilities housing the originals (most of which were sane, not yet experiencing the 514 issues). [Source: The Better Part of Valor (Chronicle)] We, being clean versions (without sleeper tech), were called in to help the Caldari destroy the originals. This takes care off the paradox. They aren't enlisting DUST clones to help them eliminate all DUST clones. They are enlisting clean version 2 clones to help them eliminate tainted version 1 (sleeper tech) clones. I hope that helps, I CAME IN DURING MORDUES TRIALS, AS ONE OF THE TYPE ONES, I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP LIVING! if all is true, it can be concluded that closed beta players are V-1's and open are V-2's. . .

Avinash Decker BetaMax. 25	Posted - 2013.02.22 18:40:00 - [31] - Quote Severus Smith wrote: The Amarr wanted to preserve battle experience and create the "ultimate" soldier. They had many elite soldiers who were retired, missing limbs, or otherwise out of action who had invaluable experience. So they used this tech to put their elite soldiers consciousness into genetically beefed up bodies with additional organs, alloyed bones, and dulled nerves. Now they had a formidable, and highly experienced, clone army. The other factions noticed, stole the sleeper technology from the Amarr, and started their own clone programs in suit. [Sources: DUST Opening Movie, Stranded - Part 6 (Chronicle), Stranded - Part 7 (Chronicle)] The Amarr soon discovered that their original clones were tainted; the sleeper tech made the clones go insane. So a secret meeting of the faction leaders occurred and Jamyl gave everyone else free untainted clone tech and almost begged them to use it instead of the sleeper tech. The other faction leaders were hesitant but took the technology, each mentioning similar observations surrounding the numbers "514" and their soldiers. [Source: 514 (Chronicle)] The other factions switched out the original tainted version 1 clone tech for the clean version given out by Jamyl. That's who we are. We are the "clean" version 2 clones. [My assumption] Several of the original (sleeper tech) clones went crazy and started causing incidents all over New Eden. One shot Tibus Heth, several others bombed Caldari cities. In response, Tibus Heth wanted all the original clones destroyed as a preemptive strike and ordered the Caldari Navy to fire on their own planets to destroy the clone facilities housing the originals (most of which were sane, not yet experiencing the 514 issues). [Source: The Better Part of Valor (Chronicle)] We, being clean versions (without sleeper tech), were called in to help the Caldari destroy the originals. This takes care off the paradox. They aren't enlisting DUST clones to help them eliminate all DUST clones. They are enlisting clean version 2 clones to help them eliminate tainted version 1 (sleeper tech) clones. I hope that helps, So basically the players that wanted caldari to lose , helped the crazy ones escape and the pirates was trying to help out the crazy ones?
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 92	Posted - 2013.02.22 19:17:00 - [32] - Quote James Thraxton wrote: if all is true, it can be concluded that closed beta players are V-1's and open are V-2's. . . That would explain why my HMG sounds like ratattataaafivetattaonetatfour to me... I've also been noticing some interesting numerical blood splatter after mincing a strawberry. Coincidence?
neausea 1987 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:22:00 - [33] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: "Alright boys, new orders came in! We're going to attack an army of people who won't stay dead and are armed with assault rifles that cost more than your year's salary. If we succeed in killing them all, they will attack again tomorrow. Any questions?" "Yeah, what were the consequences for going AWOL again?" i love it thats funny as hell rofl thanks for the laugh
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:42:00 - [34] - Quote thats like saying why does the USA use mercenaries they have their own standing forces.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 213	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:45:00 - [35] - Quote JP the Merc wrote: Alcare Xavier Golden wrote: We're the soldiers that have gone AWOL already. Are you sure? Then why aren't they after us? when you are backed by a major merc corp like mordus legion most people would rather have access to useing those mercs then pissing off mordu by killing his men
ImMortal SoLDieR X RestlessSpirits 41	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:50:00 - [36] - Quote Relyt R wrote: Also, the soldiers have different clone tech entirely. They use altered brains with an additional lobe that coordinates everything, and implants retrieved from the sleepers that nobody really understands yet. The soldiers also don't feel pain so much, which is probably part of how they can deal with getting killed repeatedly. START TRANSMISSION...................... THEY DO FEEL PAIN pls read the story about BALAC. EMD TRANSMISSION..........................
EternalRMG ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2013.02.23 02:17:00 - [37] - Quote JP the Merc wrote: So, after the Factions have found out that they could make soldiers immortal, it was used on the mercenaries. And since we cannot be killed, only way to drive us back is by hiring more skilled mercenaries than the opposing Faction. But while they are so heavily focused on mercenaries, what about their own military soldiers? Why would they hire mercenaries if they have their own soldiers? Is it like they don't have their own soldiers any more? Because it is not like the Factions hire one or two mercenaries. It is like combo of people from all kind of factions. So I think that is a bit of paradox. Any thoughts? we are supposed to be better than standard soldiers because we always learn for example if a normal soldier sees a snipers but gets killed by it before he could say anything that info is lost forever but if we see it and die we just respawn and tell everbody there was something about the ammar capturing a minmatar planet in 3 or 4 days when they brought mercs they were fighting for that planet for months with no actual result and as soon as they brought US they won in 4 days
SickJ French unchained corporation 48	Posted - 2013.02.23 02:44:00 - [38] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: we are supposed to be better than standard soldiers because we always learn for example if a normal soldier sees a snipers but gets killed by it before he could say anything that info is lost forever but if we see it and die we just respawn and tell everbody Reminds me of the movie Jarhead, when they get held back from the front lines because their bosses don't want to waste badass snipers in a fight that replaceable grunts can handle. With cloning tech, generals can send their best soldiers into the meatgrinder, again and again... and again. As for OP's question about why we're not still working for the empires: we've all gotten a section 8 psycho discharge. It's well established in the EVE 'verse that immortality makes you crazy.


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