Right now KB/M has a huge advantage in both vehicle game play and ground game play. Because movement speeds are faster. Armor tanks can out run my caldari have with KB/M set ups. Straff speeds and change from one direction of straffing to the next puts controllers to shame. CCP needs to take some time and work on bringing the controller up KB/M quality in aspect.

This is pretty easy fix. Right now on the controller you need to move your stick 100% to gain 100% movement speed. what needs to be done is that the degree to which you reach 100% speed should be reduced to 40-60% if not set so you can manually fix this it would help close this gap right now between KB/M and controller based controllers.

That would explain why I see some tanks and dropships just flying like a concord. Nice insight.

Personally, I think they should have never removed the turn limiters on suits. Now a heavy with M/KB can whip around like a scout. I don't really think that was the way to go.

Personally, I think they should have never removed the turn limiters on suits. Now a heavy with M/KB can whip around like a scout. I don't really think that was the way to go.

Personally, I think they should have never removed the turn limiters on suits. Now a heavy with M/KB can whip around like a scout. I don't really think that was the way to go.

No, it's probably just afterburners/nitrous. Keyboard doesn't make your vehicle suddenly have a higher max speed.

Actually a Keyboard does allow for a quicker accelleration also it allows you to keep full speed while turning where with controller you loose mass amount of speed as you go into your turn. It also does allow for a slightly higher top end speed also. Trust me I have ran kb/m tank before and run with tons of people who use KB/m where I enjoy my controller. And they blast past me with the same fit. :P

Actually a Keyboard does allow for a quicker accelleration also it allows you to keep full speed while turning where with controller you loose mass amount of speed as you go into your turn. It also does allow for a slightly higher top end speed also. Trust me I have ran kb/m tank before and run with tons of people who use KB/m where I enjoy my controller. And they blast past me with the same fit. :P

No, it's probably just afterburners/nitrous. Keyboard doesn't make your vehicle suddenly have a higher max speed.

You don't lose anymore speed doing keyboard turns than gamepad turns. As a KB/M user I actually find the gamepad easier to control vehicles with, although that's partly because Dust's vehicle controls are spastic as hell. And furthermore, no, your vehicle does not magically acquire new characteristics depending on whether you have a keyboard plugged in versus a gamepad.

It isn't true, turn speed is limited by suit whether you're a scout or a heavy. You also still turn slow as hell in railgun tanks/emplacements.

Lot of weird misinformation in this thread.

First off I said it effects suits and there straff speeds. either you like the advantage that it gives or you are just know little. Second The turn speeds and top end speed is vehicles that it effects. There is a reason why you see some tankers travel alot faster then others. It also effects suits on there acell speed just harder to notice for suits well easy to notice in straffing but foward and backwards it is a smaller difference. But it is very easy to notice on tanks the acceleration difference.

So no it is not weird or ill informed. The information is correct. You are just do not really know much about what your talking about.

KBM and Controllers, as they always have, have the EXACT SAME rate of turninng, (which is based off of your sensitivity) and does not increase vehicles max speed. New guys might not know this but closed beta guys, remember when KB/m was implemented and had almost NO bonuses and all the KB/M guys RAGED?

Kb/m has no advantage besides someone could be more comfortable with it than a DS3.
ok i lied it is much easier to type with a keyboard V DS3.......

I honestly play both KBM and controller. It's literally based all on what I feel like using. Sometimes I go much better using a controller after using the KBM. Sometimes I do much better with KBM After using the controller.

One thing is for sure, from all the experience I've had with both, vehicles completely suck with the KBM. I feel that using the controller is way more comfortable, then again it could be just me. I'm sure there are a lot of people who prefer to use KBM with vehicles.



CCP did a nice job balancing the KBM. I honestly think that people that complain about it are people who haven't experienced it yet, and people who brag about it are arrogant PC elitists.

This is how things do not get fixed. People say who i am fine with it. It is not balanced at all. I am not asking for a nerf at all. I am saying CCP needs to work a little on there controller aspect again to bring it up to par with the the KB/M You can not claim something is balanced when the KB gives advantage on acceleration and top speed and better turn speed while keeping the top end speed on a vehicle.

These are small mechanics that effect the over all gameplay. And CCP needs to relize that and work on them so they improve the gameplay.

people who brag about it are arrogant PC elitists.

Right now KB/M has a huge advantage in both vehicle game play and ground game play. Because movement speeds are faster. Armor tanks can out run my caldari have with KB/M set ups. Straff speeds and change from one direction of straffing to the next puts controllers to shame. CCP needs to take some time and work on bringing the controller up KB/M quality in aspect.

This is pretty easy fix. Right now on the controller you need to move your stick 100% to gain 100% movement speed. what needs to be done is that the degree to which you reach 100% speed should be reduced to 40-60% if not set so you can manually fix this it would help close this gap right now between KB/M and controller based controllers.

Right now KB/M has a huge advantage in both vehicle game play and ground game play. Because movement speeds are faster. Armor tanks can out run my caldari have with KB/M set ups. Straff speeds and change from one direction of straffing to the next puts controllers to shame. CCP needs to take some time and work on bringing the controller up KB/M quality in aspect.

This is pretty easy fix. Right now on the controller you need to move your stick 100% to gain 100% movement speed. what needs to be done is that the degree to which you reach 100% speed should be reduced to 40-60% if not set so you can manually fix this it would help close this gap right now between KB/M and controller based controllers.

I wonder if that KB&M glitch was fixed? You know that one that gave them the ability for unlimited running.

I agree. I can't hit bleep using he controller for aim. I tried using the Ps3 Move with the Sharpshooter attachment and that was a little better but not much. The same problem; rotating accelerates way too much as the crosshairs move closer to the edge of the screen. But my aim did improve a bit. Next I tried the kb/m thing and that worked better but I found having to work key combos for certain things distracting trying to remember which key does what.

So now I've adopted a hybrid approach - the controller in my left hand for movement and grenades and the mouse in my right for scanning, aiming and firing. I'm much more accurate that way and have much better control over rotation and scanning. The big downside to this is having to take my hand off the mouse to reload or access the weapons switch hud. I also accept the fact that unlike a lot of the people in Dust, I didn't grow up with a controller glued to my hands having done most of my gaming on a Mac. So there's that. I freely admit that I'm sorta inept with a controller.

they remove KB/M ill be removing myself from this game, game should of been released on PC anyways, but that a whole other issue.

Controller movement feels terrible, in and out of game.played the game the first day i got it with a controller, first match, **** this, got my wireless out. put controller movement on par with KB/M. dont ruin KB/M it actually feels like your playing on PC, mius the Frame rate of course, and the overall better graphics.

Right now KB/M has a huge advantage in both vehicle game play and ground game play. Because movement speeds are faster. Armor tanks can out run my caldari have with KB/M set ups. Straff speeds and change from one direction of straffing to the next puts controllers to shame. CCP needs to take some time and work on bringing the controller up KB/M quality in aspect.

This is pretty easy fix. Right now on the controller you need to move your stick 100% to gain 100% movement speed. what needs to be done is that the degree to which you reach 100% speed should be reduced to 40-60% if not set so you can manually fix this it would help close this gap right now between KB/M and controller based controllers.

Turn speed on rails needs a look also, its a pain in the ass to turn my rail turret with kb/m, very easy with a controller tho