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MC2044-Razgriz Polaris
BetaMax Beta
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:15:00 -
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SquaggaTCT wrote:We are tired of being trapped in our merc quarters. We know we're on a sapce station and we want out! We're tired of being held in our merc quarters only to be released onto the battlefield like gladiators for your entertainment and information. We are not animals! The whole idea behind this game is be able to go from planet to planet, taking different contracts over the galaxy. Set us free into the space stations to be able to start exploring New Eden.
The Cladari Typhoon
Now if that isn't the stupidest ******* thing I've ever heard. So, you're telling me on top of all the other problems and bugs in the game at the moment (yes i understand fully that it is still in beta) you want to add even more **** to go wrong and clog up the servers? You wanna walk around and have this game like an Open World social interaction? Pick a new game. Go play Star Wars and play in space. The point of this game is not to walk around and ogle at all the shiny ******* armor. The point of this game is to massacre your enemies and make your Corp look good, all the while earning ISK and making a name for yourself. Take that "I wanna explore New Eden" **** elsewhere. You're a ******* mercenary clone on DUST with one purpose only, get planetside and kill with no end in side. You wanna "explore New Eden"? open up an EVE account and explore it then. |
SquaggaTCT
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:20:00 -
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MC2044-Razgriz Polaris wrote:SquaggaTCT wrote:We are tired of being trapped in our merc quarters. We know we're on a sapce station and we want out! We're tired of being held in our merc quarters only to be released onto the battlefield like gladiators for your entertainment and information. We are not animals! The whole idea behind this game is be able to go from planet to planet, taking different contracts over the galaxy. Set us free into the space stations to be able to start exploring New Eden.
The Cladari Typhoon Now if that isn't the stupidest ******* thing I've ever heard. So, you're telling me on top of all the other problems and bugs in the game at the moment (yes i understand fully that it is still in beta) you want to add even more **** to go wrong and clog up the servers? You wanna walk around and have this game like an Open World social interaction? Pick a new game. Go play Star Wars and play in space. The point of this game is not to walk around and ogle at all the shiny ******* armor. The point of this game is to massacre your enemies and make your Corp look good, all the while earning ISK and making a name for yourself. Take that "I wanna explore New Eden" **** elsewhere. You're a ******* mercenary clone on DUST with one purpose only, get planetside and kill with no end in side. You wanna "explore New Eden"? open up an EVE account and explore it then. I knew at some point someone would find this an unpleasing idea.. I'm certain not but I'm gonna go ahead and ask anwyays. Did it ever occur to you that you would be able to do both if WiS was impleneted? Did you bother to think what the benefits of WiS would be? |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.02.18 09:27:00 -
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http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i33017-Key-Pass-to-Open-the-Door-details.html
You need to acquire one of the above items to be able to walk around in the rest of the station. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
136
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Posted - 2013.02.18 09:37:00 -
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I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
752
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:13:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
/c
But with you it's the veldspar dust.
Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step. |
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Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
154
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:38:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:ChribbaX wrote:I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
/c But with you it's the veldspar dust. Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step.
What exactly is the core gameplay of DUST 514. I've had plenty of amazing ideas that I have been hearing about, some of which would be the core gameplay of Dust, but none of it is even close to coming yet. |
Yosef Autaal
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:43:00 -
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I really wanted this, WIS always interested me in eve and was disappointed when it was totally dropped and put in the closet.
Hopefully now dust is here we will see it return one day, I want to go to a bar with corp mates while I wait to find a match, A place to have meetings with clients to add more personal touch to the Eve world.
p.s. No Stupid Dancing emotes (unless in a night club on the dance floor) |
XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
76
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:44:00 -
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Kleanur Guy wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:ChribbaX wrote:I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
/c But with you it's the veldspar dust. Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step. What exactly is the core gameplay of DUST 514. I've had plenty of amazing ideas that I have been hearing about, some of which would be the core gameplay of Dust, but none of it is even close to coming yet.
I am guessing he is talking about getting the actual gameplay right, there are still a lot of glitches, errors, and generally basic things they need to fix, improve, and expand on in the battlefield before they start working on fluff.
Granted thats just me. |
Gunner Needed
The Southern Legion
111
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Posted - 2013.02.18 11:01:00 -
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Dust mercs in invincible war dropsuits start trouble at a bar. poor Eve pilots\bouncer
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SquaggaTCT
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.02.18 11:39:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:ChribbaX wrote:I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
/c But with you it's the veldspar dust. Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step. Yes we do understand that you guys are more focused on the core mechanics. I try to keep up to date as much as possible as to what is going on. I do apologize if this makes us sound ungrateful, however we did come to this game with certain expectations. After a year we've been testing those core mechanics and would like a little more. As I've said, it's not just us thatt is very interested in this effort. the EVE pilots are apparently very interessted in this idea. The whole reason why this was brought up was due to the promise of it being released in the incarna build in 2011. From what I heard there were riots after the failure of this being released people wanted it so much. Again we do appreciate all that you've done for us and we realize that you are working very hard to bring us more at this very time. More to this type of gameplay is is what we want. I believe that this would be a very easy step for you , especially considering that you apparently alrady have the program mechanics for it already worked it. It was simply boxed. Thank you for making the game we play every day. Please give us WiS |
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.02.18 16:01:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:ChribbaX wrote:I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
/c But with you it's the veldspar dust. Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step. It never gets old. Everytime you say this i love you more =) |
Panoscape
BurgezzE.T.F
107
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Posted - 2013.02.18 16:11:00 -
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I'd like an Atari set in the room so I can play centipede, asteroids or frogger when I'm waiting on my corp mates. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
326
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Posted - 2013.02.18 16:17:00 -
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MC2044-Razgriz Polaris wrote: Now if that isn't the stupidest ******* thing I've ever heard. So, you're telling me on top of all the other problems and bugs in the game at the moment (yes i understand fully that it is still in beta) you want to add even more **** to go wrong and clog up the servers? You wanna walk around and have this game like an Open World social interaction? Pick a new game. Go play Star Wars and play in space. The point of this game is not to walk around and ogle at all the shiny ******* armor. The point of this game is to massacre your enemies and make your Corp look good, all the while earning ISK and making a name for yourself. Take that "I wanna explore New Eden" **** elsewhere. You're a ******* mercenary clone on DUST with one purpose only, get planetside and kill with no end in side. You wanna "explore New Eden"? open up an EVE account and explore it then.
Woah....Like, Chill out dude.
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Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:01:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i33017-Key-Pass-to-Open-the-Door-details.html
You need to acquire one of the above items to be able to walk around in the rest of the station.
That's a joke item. CCP likes to make fun things to kind of pick on themselves. Boot.ini and the Key Pass being two of them. |
Yosef Autaal
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2013.02.18 17:22:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Rasatsu wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i33017-Key-Pass-to-Open-the-Door-details.html
You need to acquire one of the above items to be able to walk around in the rest of the station. That's a joke item. CCP likes to make fun things to kind of pick on themselves. Boot.ini and the Key Pass being two of them.
haha i did not know they put that into the game thats brilliant :D
SquaggaTCT wrote:From what I heard there were riots after the failure of this being released people wanted it so much.
From my understanding the protests were due to people were unhappy with the expansion that gave us WiQ (Walking in Quaters) because the expansion offered nothing to improve the player experince apart from a room which you sit in alone and could do nothing within apart from see your clothes and how pretty the monocle you bought that cost soooooo much real money was obsurd for cosmetic item (that was a big factor) aswell as serious lack of communication from CCP, a leaked document from ccp which painted the company as bunch of money grabbers who were only concerend with taking us for every penny (i believe this was same time) and it boiled over into the jita riots (yay for space riots)
This is why alot of people protested in my understanding they felt they were ripped off (even tho it was a free expansion) that to much effort was pushed into the WiS system which some believed was just a test for it to be used in there other mmo there working on (cant remember title or if it is still ebing developed or not)
Now alot of people just are sick and hate the idea of WiS and any mention of it brings back bad memories and i believe CCP are scared tosay they have even a single developer working on WiS in case of more riots of wasted resources and the usually "FIX UR GAME FIRST" comments.
Personally i really loved the idea of WiS and followed its development closely watching all the vids, blogs and news articles that I could find and WiS was the only reason i kept subbing to eve when i had no time to actaully play but after the release the fiasco that entailed and the news they were not going to develop it i walked away from eve after 4 years.
Now i hope with dust comming out soon profts will rise the company will expand again ( they did some downsizing since WiS) and they will once again have room to develop WiS and join the two universes together completely because until an eve player and a dust player can be in the same bar sharing a pint discussing there next contract the two worlds will seem split and devided.
ok that was longer then expected and no one will probably read this but nvm hahaha
TL:DR: 1:You lazy people I put so much thought into this 2. players didnt riot because they didnt get wis they rioted because CCP appeared not respect the players anymore 3. CCP are scared of WiS because they screwed it up an lost player confidence and worried of the fallout if they announce they have teams working on WiS fulltime again rather then working on bug fixes |
SquaggaTCT
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.02.18 22:34:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:ChribbaX wrote:I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
/c But with you it's the veldspar dust. Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step. It never gets old. Everytime you say this i love you more =) I think that everyone knows your working very hard, however it is very obvious that this is something that everyone wants very much |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.18 22:37:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:ChribbaX wrote:I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
/c But with you it's the veldspar dust. Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step. Can wait to see some of that coregameplay in the game. You know, something most companies do before releasing an open beta.
Also the majority of eve players want walking in stations too. A single player room with a cash shop that has terrible lighting and no muliplayer slapped into an mmo with none of the promised features is what pissed people off. They wasted 2 years to make this room? WTF. And you can spend 20$ on a pair of pants no one can see?
People want walking in stations, that is not what was released and thus the uprising had nothing to do with it. If WIS was delievered as promised and then they went back to working on the space part of eve no one would of gotten upset. |
Morathi III
Rebelles A Quebec
57
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Posted - 2013.02.19 00:35:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:ChribbaX wrote:I for one love the smell of fresh Dust in the morning.
/c But with you it's the veldspar dust. Anyways guys, thanks for expressing your interest in more ability to explore your station environments. Right now we're focused on the core gameplay of DUST 514, but in the future anything is possible. Letting us know you want more of this stuff is a good first step. Easy way for you to make a bit more money and getting EVE in relation with dust, and make for us community more active |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2013.02.19 00:55:00 -
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Im a tool of war. I'm not allowed to see the sun unless i'm killing something. |
Gullegubben
Ginnungagaps Landsknektsgille
32
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Posted - 2013.02.19 01:22:00 -
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I have had many long discussions and angry debates in EVE on this topic for (seriously) the past 7+ years.
Here is a short summary of my findings in this. First, many players feel that any social space is stupid in EVE. EVE is about flying spaceships in space on the internet and therefore anything that does not further that gameplay is a waste of their money. I understand this point. One huge problem with that point is that it's one group of players telling other players what EVE is and how it should be played. That is utter crap. There are a million things I don't do in EVE. I don't mine veldspar, I don't go to WH-space and I don't do inventions. This doesn't mean I don't want these things to be fun for the people who do them. For example, I'd like to see mining change from static pockets into planetary or system orbiting, proper, belts. I think that's an amazing idea. What's more, it doesn't make mining better for PvPers, it makes mining better for miners. Because they're the ones doing mining and they're the ones who should be pandered too with mining updates.
Now, if you don't mine veldspar, why should you care what they do to mining? Likewise, if you're not part of the immersive social game in EVE, why should you care about walking around in a station? The answer is, you shouldn't. It isn't there to tick you off or make your EVE different, it's there to make MY EVE different. Because personally, I find the social game in EVE incredibly anti-immersive at the moment.
Currently, if I want to hold a meeting with directors of my corp, or alliance contacts etc, do you know how I do that? Ventrilo. I don't even use EVE. In fact, most of the time I'm not even logged in. Could there possibly be anything less immersive than a game where the prime method of hosting an important summit doesn't involve playing the game?
I am not saying anybody should be required to dock, get out of their pod and go into a meeting room to discuss something. That would be ridiculous. I am however saying that for those of us to whom this is the majority of their EVE life, this should be an option. I would absolutely relish the opportunity to die trying to get a covops into an NPC station in nullsec for an important neutral ground meeting. The sense of importance, along with the potential immersive gameplay rewards of escorting a CEO or diplomat past bubbles etc, would be epic.
So what does any of that have to do with Dust? Well we've been given a vehicle for change. The social landscape of New Eden suddenly includes people who don't use ventrilo and teamspeak, but count on actually being logged into their game to cover social, diplomatic and management duties. I think meeting rooms and social spaces could be an excellent reason for diplomats and corporate leaders to dock up, get out of the pod and mingle with some bunnies. Oh and if your purpose in Dust or EVE has nothing to do with diplomacy, if you're just a running gun, this doesn't affect your game. It affects mine.
TL;DR Give us meeting rooms already, CCP. |
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Erehk
Insomniacs Anonymous
7
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Posted - 2013.02.19 02:44:00 -
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Quick thought on this subject. I believe that CCP is currently working on a game where walking around is core to the immersive gameplay.
http://www.ccpgames.com/en/products/world-of-darkness
I would much rather see what CCP is able to manage there, first. It takes a lot to make walking around an immersive experience. With players who are counting on those game mechanics for their day-to-day enjoyment, I believe CCP will have a much better opportunity of not just providing more eye candy, but figuring out how to really make it an engaging experience that benefits the player community.
Think about what you spend your time doing around the table right now, where you are able to interact with mercs outside the battlefield. So far I've spent a small amount of time looking around, slightly more time playing this game where a non-heavy will try to prevent me from walking by, slightly more time than that trying to see if I can glitch my way up to the staircase, and lately I've just been spending that time manually sorting the roster by corporation to rough-guess my advantages / disadvantages in the upcoming battle. |
Fundies
CrimeWave Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2013.02.19 03:57:00 -
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The first thing I doing when they open up the station is visit the restroom seeing as CCP didn't feel the need to supply my room with one |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:00:00 -
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Fundies wrote:The first thing I doing when they open up the station is visit the restroom seeing as CCP didn't feel the need to supply my room with one if you need to take a dump, just kill your self, and get a fresh clone until nature calls again.
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mike deltore wyvern
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
18
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:12:00 -
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Dear ccp,.......get me out of my fkn apartment!. Put a nightclub or something in here....maybe a strip club or a bar idk just do something. It's getting claustrophobic in here 0_o |
SquaggaTCT
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:29:00 -
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Fundies wrote:The first thing I doing when they open up the station is visit the restroom seeing as CCP didn't feel the need to supply my room with one I thought I was supposed to take a **** in the star map |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:34:00 -
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Fundies wrote:The first thing I doing when they open up the station is visit the restroom seeing as CCP didn't feel the need to supply my room with one Think these high tech suits don't have built in toilets? Come on dude this is the future!
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SquaggaTCT
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:42:00 -
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I think it was in the Golden Saucer thread someone posted a vid that CCP had put out about WiS. It looked incredible, and they had the Slay game that is in ps home. I think there are multitudes of possibilities and reasons as to what could be done with this |
Jack Of Evermore
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:58:00 -
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zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote:Fundies wrote:The first thing I doing when they open up the station is visit the restroom seeing as CCP didn't feel the need to supply my room with one Think these high tech suits don't have built in toilets? Come on dude this is the future!
In the Gallente apartments we use the meta level 4 GÇ£Hole in the floorGÇ¥ waste disposal unit, only 140 AUR. |
Chankk Saotome
CrimeWave Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2013.02.19 10:34:00 -
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I wouldn't mind meeting some random EVE people who come visit at whatever station I'm actually at while my battle clones rampage across the stars. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.02.19 10:55:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Rasatsu wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i33017-Key-Pass-to-Open-the-Door-details.html
You need to acquire one of the above items to be able to walk around in the rest of the station. That's a joke item. CCP likes to make fun things to kind of pick on themselves. Boot.ini and the Key Pass being two of them. Not sure if that was a joke or a dreadnaught flying over your head, but it certainly made a very loud whooosss sound. |
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