I don't see the point of your complaint. If you can build that "overpowered" tank without any HAV skills, then everybody can. Where's the problem? I don't see a major imbalance here.
Or are you seriously suggesting that militia tanks are overpowered compared to their high end counterparts, without ever having seen one of them from the inside?

it does add a ton of difficulty to try to get it down.

i have 3 hardeners on my tank giving my 6k armor tank giving it around 10k armor with a 800 effective rep.

blasting forge gunners and other nonsense is quit simple, just have to keep my head and know where my tank is and what turrets are out there.

a turret can wreck my day if i am not in some form of cover.

Lol please drop that tank in against me, its possible to get 20,000+ ehp on a Surya, ask team aldin.

This is why dropships need to have the open door mechanic finished. Right now they can open and close doors, but the future idea is to lets players keep shooting from the dropship. Turrets have a hard time pointing up and forge guns have great range with a height advantage. Not to mention the rain of AV gernades tat will come.

Tanks should kick ass, but there should always be a counter. It just requires skill investment and teamwork. And also for CCP to finish the game :P

Plus we are getting a new anti shield AV weapon with te arc launcher. S swarms for armor tanks and Arc for shields. Forgeguns are more of an AV sniping weapon. They can drop massive damage when far away and above the target.

The arc will on the other hand be aclose range only skill shot weapon with an arc to it's fire. 4 of them might tear a shield tanking tank apart. Finish it up with Pack AV in the back where it's weak point is, KA BOOM

ONly issue I see with tanks si they are TOO FAST. I can see cureeny tank top speed and acceleration before more minmatar level but we need some balance here.

Cadari should have lowest accelration but highest top speed. Strongest shield tank.

Minmatar should have 2nd best top speed *current tank speed* with current level accelration.

Ammar should be slow topspeed, but the highest acelleration.As a result, highest armor in the game to last in a firefight, but too slow to move out of danger or to another objective quickly.

Gallente should have 3rd best speed low accelration, but as armor tanks they shouldn't be moving faster than a fully buffed spped scout suit. UNless you fit speed mods or an after burner of crouse. But then the tank will have moments where it's on cool down and be cuaght up to. It should have the side turrets be player controlled fighter drones. *a man can dream*

Are you aware that YOU can make a Soma Super Tank (militia armor tank for those non-tankers out there) with 2978 shields, 5235 armor, a 10% militia armor damage reduction mod, 2 armor reppers and a 9% shield/armor damage reducing active module using only the skills needed to improve your dropsuits armor and shield modules to advanced level, building your passive dropsuit health skills, and increasing your CPU/PG to lvl 4?

Lol please drop that tank in against me, its possible to get 20,000+ ehp on a Surya, ask team aldin.

You have a few points, but its not as bad as you make it out to be.

Most squads can take out a tank like easy, forge gunner+swarms+flux+AV+me in a free LAV ramming into a HAV can take out a tank quite quickly.

Also, i believe its more about whoever is operating the tank and how skilled they are as a driver. I can outfit a tank too...problem is I suck as a driver and will get blown up quick.

Lol please drop that tank in against me, its possible to get 20,000+ ehp on a Surya, ask team aldin.

ROFL LOL !!!!! Awwwww man nice troll nice troll ROFL ! LOL !!!!!!

As others have stated above.

I popped a Gunlogi by myself with my fat suit and my favorite Forge Gun.

Driver thought he could run. He couldn't run far enough because I had situational advantage denying the driver from getting Repped before my mods and skills allowed the Forge Gun to give me +150, +50, +50 and I wish they have found one more Gunner to finish out my set.

That was work.

Your setup? Not so much.

You have forgotten the two basic Rules in RPGs. Skills and Mods (whatever the game calls them) changes everything.

Weaponry lvl 5 +10% damage to all hand held weapons.

Forge Gun Ops, reduces charge time.
Heavy Weapon Sharpshooter adds range.
Heavy Weapon Reload makes Forge Gun reloads reasonable.

10% Damage mod.

Assault Forge Gun, 1200 + 120 + 120, four rounds = 5760.
Breach Forge Gun, 2100 + 210 + 210, four rounds = 10080.

Neither of these are Advanced weapons. Do the math on Advanced and Proto Forge Guns then look at your Single Clip Death Trap with fresh eyes.

Add some friendly Blue helpers with a Flux Grenade and what little shields the Soma had are gone. Instantly.
Sica and Flux? Serious troubles ahead.
Or a Blue with AV grenades and a HIV gets me 50% of the kills but you are still very much dead.
Same for Swarmers and I haven't even skilled into Swarm Launchers as yet.

Until you drive a tank, do not assume that tweaking a spreadsheet will win either an encounter nor a battle. Interesting and entertaining though the numbers are.

Are those of you with inflated egos done bragging yet? This isn't about you.

The point isn't that this fit is OP vs people who spec for dealing with this, the point is that it's OP because anyone can build it for general pub matches against regular, low level noobs who know nothing about taking out tanks.

It's bad enough that Zitro, Zdawwg, and all of the other big tankers are so afraid of getting a scratch on their precious K/D that they feel they need to pull out the best possible tank they can every match they go into against complete noobs (which is, quite honestly, very pathetic, especially since the majority of them aren't even out of militia gear yet), but the fact that anyone who has basic dropsuit skills can build a halfway decent tank without any skills into tanks, and drop it into a match filled with complete noobs, is just plain stupid.

This isn't a complaint about my tank being too strong for AV players or other tankers, it's a complaint that people who don't put in the effort to build tank skills can still easily wipe the floor in the average pub match with a tank that cost them no SP investment and very little ISK.

And as for the 2 light reppers, it's more than enough when you only have ~5k armor and around 3K shields plus a shield booster to buffer your armor from explosive damage. I don't really do tanks, but even with my poor tanking skills I've dropped 5 gunloggis with it so far, so it's not quite as bad as you guys seem pointedly want to make it out to be.

Edit: This isn't closed beta anymore, people will be flooding in from now on. That means things need to be balanced for the new players as well as those already specced well enough to deal with a tank like this.