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Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:59:00 -
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STANDINGS
Hell yea there should be standings. Standings are a simple and proven mechanic that flags friend from foe. Best of all CCP owns this concept and has already deployed it in EVE Online which is the universe that Dust 514 shares.
Grunts and Corporations should be able to set each other a darker shade of red so that rivalries and blood feuds can be indulged. The insulting loud mouth in local should be rewarded with all sorts of love. On the flip side of this is that perhaps you donGÇÖt want to shoot your allies.
Being able to set standing at will for any reason in Dust 514 would empower Players to determine who they want to target or ally. This puts social justice back into the Players hands.
STANDINGS MATCH FILTER
 Dust Mercenaries or Corporations set to red standings would never be found on the same team. This setting need not be mutual in order to take effect.
Blues would never be found on the opposing side. However the individuals or corporations involved must set each other positive to benefit from the Blue effect.
STANDINGS & FRIENDLY FIRE
Standings combined with a Standings Match Filter are a solution that allows for friendly fire to be enabled. So from the moment a new player's boots hit Dust 514 he/she has the ability choose who not to play with.
Everyone would have the freedom to set anyone red for any reason at any moment. If someone were to TK you, you set the tard red and abandon the contract. Next time you see him/her it will always be in your crosshars with a marker that lets you know there is someone special to kill. Offenders of friendly fire or other behavior that undermines a team could find themselves in lonely situations.
What makes the political spectrum in EVE Online intriguing is the simple fact that you can at any moment shoot anyone at will. What keeps one from crossing the brink are the consequences.
I enjoy sandbox gaming. I love the freedom to choose. It is my choice to pull the trigger without any formal declaration of war. Implementing a grand conquest aspect of Dust 514 without friendly fire is going to be a neutered version of what one would expect from EVE.
When I call in an Orbital Strike, I would like for GÇ£Danger CloseGÇ¥ to mean something! |
Arbor Viridanus
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:09:00 -
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This is absolutely brilliant. I can't believe no one's thought of it before. |
Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:25:00 -
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Technically it is CCP's idea.
A simple version of the STANDINGS FILTER is being used for the Targeting Overview in EVE Online. The technology has been already created. It just needs to be adapted to Dust 514. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:27:00 -
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random matches for factions should just be that, random.
Why does the gallente federation care if merc company b doesn't like a.
If you don't want to play with rivals use current game mechanics. |
sarow kideth
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:31:00 -
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As i said in game i think its great
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Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:41:00 -
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PVP in New Eden is not random or scripted. |
Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.02.15 04:01:00 -
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Nicely thought out. +1
I'm dying for standings.
Of course, I also think it'd be hilarious to see someone CONCORDed for TKing.
*POOF!*
"Holy carp! When did this game get MTACs?! Why can't I sprint?!" |
Jack Louphane
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Posted - 2013.02.15 04:08:00 -
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good stuff |
Jack Louphane
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Posted - 2013.02.15 04:13:00 -
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very good stuff |
Ser Chard
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:25:00 -
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I like the idea. But I also like the idea of rival corps forced to work together on a contract.
Maybe they never would? But what if the offer is too good to turn down? Or they dont know until they hit the field? Drama! |
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Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:44:00 -
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Ser Chard wrote:I like the idea. But I also like the idea of rival corps forced to work together on a contract. Maybe they never would? But what if the offer is too good to turn down? Or they dont know until they hit the field? Drama!
It happens in EVE. Regional Blocs of Power will agree to a temporary cease fire and blue standings for the duration of dealing with foreign invaders. Neighborly Enemies become frenemys for a common goal and then go back to fighting each other once the greater threat to their individual sovereignty is neutralized. There have been many occasions that a temporary blue would reset standings during a fight and side with the enemy. STANDINGS are that flexible.
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Zin Suddu
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:44:00 -
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Agree. +1
It would be interesting to see if two rival factions could pull it together FTW, or if one would flip on the contract and go all double cross on their rivals. |
Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:05:00 -
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A little bump to get this one back in view. |
Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.17 02:56:00 -
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I feel this is a fairly important suggestion. One that could address many interest and concerns. So I will be bumping this one daily till it gets noticed by a DEV. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.02.17 07:03:00 -
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Could be a good thing to implement in a few builds. Game needs far more fleshing out first. |
Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.17 07:44:00 -
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This is part of that "first" of many things that are needed.
Shooting members of your own corporation because of a some script of code randomly placed them on the opposing team and not having the choice to team up them to kill everyone else is not the New Eden universe that I have known for over seven years. |
Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:39:00 -
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Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:46:00 -
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Randoms are stealing my fitted rides and crashing them. I cant shoot them. I cannot prevent them from being on my side. Current system lacks consequences. In fact there are zero consequences in Dust 514. This is not the EVE Universe.
I need standings. |
Rachoi
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:49:00 -
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i agree with the standings thing, would make it easier to bear with the random matches...
would also make it so i dont end up against my own corporation, since that's happend a couple of times, was a nice challenge match, but i really dont want to makea habit of it |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:08:00 -
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In old build there was a standings tab, said coming soon when selected. So, I think some form of standing was planned, this suggested version would be great.
In EvE, factions will let you take missions if down to -2 standing on a scale of -10 to +10. The more profitable missions are only open to pilots in good standing. High standings are needed for other things, like building space stations in there territory. At -5, if I remember right, the npc of that faction fire on you.
Player corps can set standings to player corps at will. Npc faction standing is average of all players separate standings.
edit. Rather then never blue vs blue or red on team, make it a preference so it puts them that way if possible then balances team with extra if needed. This would avoid issue of corps with a lot of blue/red set having trouble with finding matches. Maybe have a separate setting for will play against/with that has default set by red/blue. So a blue sparring partner could be set blue/will fight against, for example. |
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Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:50:00 -
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Well Ted,
I am very confident that there will never be a situation in which everyone will be blue to each other. New Eden has been around for about 10 years. There has been every oppurtunity and freedom to make a Blue Universe but that has never come to past. People like to blow each other to hell.
Corporations and Alliance would go on a reset binge if there was too much blue.
Reset standings was always inclinded in this idea. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.02.20 08:04:00 -
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set everyone to good.
fight in empty matches |
Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:05:00 -
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They would have to set you blue as well. |
Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.23 11:13:00 -
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Velvet Overkill
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Posted - 2013.02.24 01:09:00 -
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Vaeul wrote:Randoms are stealing my fitted rides and crashing them. I cant shoot them. I cannot prevent them from being on my side. Current system lacks consequences. In fact there are zero consequences in Dust 514. This is not the EVE Universe.
I need standings.
This would make a lot of vehicle users happy. |
Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:47:00 -
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Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:11:00 -
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sarow kideth
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Posted - 2013.02.25 23:57:00 -
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Would realy be nice possibly prevent haveing crap like haveing the same guy steal our dropship just to crash it with us in it twice... We were furious |
Balzich Rotaine
Rotaine Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2013.02.26 00:19:00 -
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+1Standings would be awesome. The first thing I would do is go through the forums and flag all these Terd merchants crying about everything. Then i would have a tea bag bonanza on the battlefield. It would be glorious.
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Vaeul
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Posted - 2013.03.09 23:51:00 -
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Here is your universal solution to improving the gaming experience. |
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