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zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:45:00 -
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Hey I was just curious how those from closed beta, other than myself, feel about it being in open, now that it has been for a while. I personally like seeing all the new faces but then again the game feels like its gotten a bit easier due to newberries. Also I'm not so sure that it was ready to face an onslaught of console gamers who are used to highly polished games. I think alot might try it and decide it sucks based on Beta gameplay. (as made clear by spike of people hating on this game on forum) |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:46:00 -
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Well it doesn't crash on me anymore. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:47:00 -
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I like fighting new guys in make me feel good for a few matches. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:48:00 -
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I don't like it mainly because people are judging the open beta as the finished product, so whenever dust is brought up somewhere else on the internets, there are scrubs who got stomped who say dust sucks |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
62
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:50:00 -
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Sometimes it gets easy fighting new barrys. Then it sucks when those newberrys are playing like COD players. lol All in all I miss close beta. But it is what it is .... |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:51:00 -
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It's not really a beta for dust, it's just a beta for it's combat system. I've been testing it's combat for so long, I want gameplay : ( I know I know, soon. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:53:00 -
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I think it was a failure to be open beta before next build. What was there reasoning again to go open before this game wasn't a repetitive torture device? Kinda getting sick of seeing so much hate on DUST everywhere just because us closed vets destroyed everyone.
For those that stayed - I have much respect for you.
For those of us in closed beta - I have more respect for you then I'm willing to give normally. |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:53:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:It's not really a beta for dust, it's just a beta for it's combat system. I've been testing it's combat for so long, I want gameplay : ( I know I know, soon. Never thought about it like that but yeah alot of the major promised features were left out for beta |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
51
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:55:00 -
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This game is a POS. It hasn't been good since E3. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:55:00 -
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I have the same sentiment of it seems a lot easier because so many people are getting used to it. I think over time it'll get much more competitive, but for now it seems a bit rough for the new guys.
Also, I WANT MY ATLAS SUIT PLZ. |
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zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:56:00 -
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ImperfectFan514 wrote:This game is a POS. It hasn't been good since E3. Can i ask why you play it and/or stick around on the forums? |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:57:00 -
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Stability's a whole lot better, and stomping newberries is always fun. I've been digging the events that CCP's been putting on lately. Hoping to see more of that.
Not very different for me, really.
Although the constant "Nerf Heavy/HMG" threads are getting real irritating. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:58:00 -
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ImperfectFan514 wrote:This game is a POS. It hasn't been good since E3.
Yeah horrible hit detection, OP Tanks and Heavies, Huge lag spikes, invalid fittings and disconnects every other match was so fun and exciting; never new what glitch would happen next.... |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:02:00 -
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It's been fun so far. Only down side is that the newberies seem to be getting better |
Slaytanical
DUST University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:03:00 -
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Newberry Deez nuts in yo mouf
that is all i'm no sprung chicken i played in closed also
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mini rehak
The Southern Legion
22
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:05:00 -
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I'm glad open beta didn't turn into another Server Swarm. |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:09:00 -
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there are positives and negatives about the open beta.
Positives:
-new players
Negative:
- didn't give a new build -haven't fixes bugs that have been around for 6 months -have went on vacation 2x in last month, so problems still persist -still dont listen to the community (in regards to bugs) -STILL no dev-blogs -information is essentially non-existent (where look at PS2, they give their players A LOT of info on whats to come) - corp battles still 8v8 (even though tourny was 16v16) -still no new content
so yeah, lots of negatives, but these have been persistent since E3. so essentially only good thing is the new players, as it allows us vets to really stat pad :P |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:10:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:there are positives and negatives about the open beta.
Positives:
-new players
Negative:
- didn't give a new build -haven't fixes bugs that have been around for 6 months -have went on vacation 2x in last month, so problems still persist -still dont listen to the community (in regards to bugs) -STILL no dev-blogs -information is essentially non-existent (where look at PS2, they give their players A LOT of info on whats to come) - corp battles still 8v8 (even though tourny was 16v16) -still no new content
so yeah, lots of negatives, but these have been persistent since E3. so essentially only good thing is the new players, as it allows us vets to really stat pad :P true on alot of this however about the ps2 thing you have to remember that game is already released maybe that has an effect on the info they release? |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:16:00 -
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zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote:Berserker007 wrote:there are positives and negatives about the open beta.
Positives:
-new players
Negative:
- didn't give a new build -haven't fixes bugs that have been around for 6 months -have went on vacation 2x in last month, so problems still persist -still dont listen to the community (in regards to bugs) -STILL no dev-blogs -information is essentially non-existent (where look at PS2, they give their players A LOT of info on whats to come) - corp battles still 8v8 (even though tourny was 16v16) -still no new content
so yeah, lots of negatives, but these have been persistent since E3. so essentially only good thing is the new players, as it allows us vets to really stat pad :P true on alot of this however about the ps2 thing you have to remember that game is already released maybe that has an effect on the info they release?
that may be true; however, whether beta or not; after 8 months of beta, they should really have more to say to the community. I mean, PS2 has updates shown to them for next 4+ months.
Plus if CCP is saying this is the unofficial-official release, they should talk with us and post more. Make dev blogs weekly on what is going on, make threads, etc.
Seeing i've been here for 8 months, CCP keeps us all in the dark till 2-3 days before a new build. All we get is "soon", which is complete BS to be given at this stage. This game is missing SOOO much of what it is said to have.
Essentially i think CCP needs to do a MUCH better job of communicating with us (the community). |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:20:00 -
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The main thing I dislike is that Skirmish 1.0 is still not back, and maps are decent at best. Content patch should've come with open beta. But I can wait. General stability has improved massively. |
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Thumb Green
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:33:00 -
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zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: I personally like seeing all the new faces but then again the game feels like its gotten a bit easier due to newberries.
Unless you intentionally gimp yourself the game doesn't feel easier, it is easier. With the vets having their skills leveled up and running around with Duvolle's and Boundless HMG's; us newberries get cut down like wheat by a sickle. |
Slaytanical
DUST University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:46:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: I personally like seeing all the new faces but then again the game feels like its gotten a bit easier due to newberries.
Unless you intentionally gimp yourself the game doesn't feel easier, it is easier. With the vets having their skills leveled up and running around with Duvolle's and Boundless HMG's; us newberries get cut down like wheat by a sickle.
Indeed game is totally unbalanced..... but don't cry too much about the duvolle's and the hmg's they will swear you are just butt hurt and that you suck fair warning....
i have no probs with the shotguns only the HMG'S mega stoopid range on them that's way too far ...... but it's faceroll thet's why theres so many. |
Rhuvian Marccus
Deep Space Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:49:00 -
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Yeah....it is what it is. I really don't know what else to say. Like many vets, I'm beginning to feel a sense of urgency. Simultaneously, I still have trust in CCP and hope for the future of the game. I've always treated 514 like a marathon - while still enjoying myself, I'm doing the best I can to raise interest in the game and keep a level head about the community and the direction/speed things are progressing in.
TL;DR
Trying to keep myself level and believe in CCP.
Time Will Tell |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:58:00 -
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Slaytanical wrote:Thumb Green wrote:zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: I personally like seeing all the new faces but then again the game feels like its gotten a bit easier due to newberries.
Unless you intentionally gimp yourself the game doesn't feel easier, it is easier. With the vets having their skills leveled up and running around with Duvolle's and Boundless HMG's; us newberries get cut down like wheat by a sickle. Indeed game is totally unbalanced..... but don't cry too much about the duvolle's and the hmg's they will swear you are just butt hurt and that you suck fair warning.... i have no probs with the shotguns only the HMG'S mega stoopid range on them that's way too far ...... but it's faceroll thet's why theres so many.
Range sucks and accuracy sucks, and you probably do too if they're such a problem for you. AR's outrange HMG's, get out of the HMG's range and use that to your advantage, or go shoutgun and just strafe the hell out of them. Only thing that needs to get nerfed is your ability to complain. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:58:00 -
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Slaytanical wrote:Thumb Green wrote:[quote=zeek1227 zeek1227] I personally like seeing all the new faces but then again the game feels like its gotten a bit easier due to newberries.
Unless you intentionally gimp yourself the game doesn't feel easier, it is easier. With the vets having their skills leveled up and running around with Duvolle's and Boundless HMG's; us newberries get cut down like wheat by a sickle.
Indeed game is totally unbalanced..... but don't cry too much about the duvolle's and the hmg's they will swear you are just butt hurt and that you suck fair warning....
i have no probs with the shotguns only the HMG'S mega stoopid range on them that's way too far ...... but it's faceroll thet's why theres so many.[/quote
I run BASIC heavy suit, BASIC HMG or MILITIA scout MILITIA SMG and folks die. The only unbalanced thing is folks running like headless chickens ripe for HMG or militia SMG harvesting.
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Thumb Green
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:11:00 -
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The Duvolle's and the HMG's really don't bother me that much; it's just a fact of a newberry's life that they'll tear you a new one. The range on the HMG's is alright as far as I'm concerned (said as an assault player). The longer barrel and higher bullet velocity means it will have a long range.
Now shutguns, those make me cry on the inside and on the ouside. I just hate the fact that I can unload half a clip in someone's head and then get killed by them in one shot. Which I hate one shot kill weapons to begin with. |
Ignoble Son
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:20:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:It's been fun so far. Only down side is that the newberies seem to be getting better
Ya, they don't run directly at my tank anymore, shooting at it with an AR from 30 m (was so much more fun that way) or stand there frozen like a deer in the headlights, so sad. Oh well *shrugs* all good things must end I guess. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:25:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The Duvolle's and the HMG's really don't bother me that much; it's just a fact of a newberry's life that they'll tear you a new one. The range on the HMG's is alright as far as I'm concerned (said as an assault player). The longer barrel and higher bullet velocity means it will have a long range. Don't come in here with your logic and real-life-ee-ness.
+1 |
sir ravenwing
stone wolves
5
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:31:00 -
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i miss closed beta but i can't dwell on the past here are some negatives and positives positive new players corp making conder squad negative resets bitches unloyal liars more items cost AUR salvage shortage idiots corvo bailey burn
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ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
51
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:34:00 -
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zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:This game is a POS. It hasn't been good since E3. Can i ask why you play it and/or stick around on the forums?
I play it because It's free. |
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Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:03:00 -
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Its eh... Still trying to get used to all these bew attitudes on here |
usrevenge2
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:17:00 -
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I miss old skirmish and the old turrets but the game is much better now overall. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:54:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Range sucks and accuracy sucks, and you probably do too if they're such a problem for you. AR's outrange HMG's, get out of the HMG's range and use that to your advantage, or go shoutgun and just strafe the hell out of them. Only thing that needs to get nerfed is your ability to complain. **** you, Internet Tough Guy. |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:05:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote: I personally like seeing all the new faces but then again the game feels like its gotten a bit easier due to newberries.
Unless you intentionally gimp yourself the game doesn't feel easier, it is easier. With the vets having their skills leveled up and running around with Duvolle's and Boundless HMG's; us newberries get cut down like wheat by a sickle. I think you underestimate the amount personal skill can change the battle. I am trained for the high level stuff and use it when i want to, but mostly when im grinding for sp and isk i just run militia and still finish on top on the score boards with an easy 2.00 k/d. Use of specific tactics for specific suits can go a long way |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:08:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Range sucks and accuracy sucks, and you probably do too if they're such a problem for you. AR's outrange HMG's, get out of the HMG's range and use that to your advantage, or go shoutgun and just strafe the hell out of them. Only thing that needs to get nerfed is your ability to complain. **** you, Internet Tough Guy.
Did I say anything wrong? Did I ever say I was good at the game? I run a heavy most of the time, most people that kill me happen to be using an AR. Using a HMG doesn't make me any better, and it definitely isn't easy mode.
The in-game HMG's are already gimped compared to RL HMGs for the sake of balance anyway, a real life HMG has the same range as an Anti-material rifle, and yet people want to gimp them even more? Instead of complaining so much, people should learn how to counter them. |
Daxos Cavaletto
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
74
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:09:00 -
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The thing I miss about close beta is hope. I used to have hope that there was bug fixes, vast improvements, and a bunch of content coming. After almost a year I realized this is what we should expect long term. Just as ccp needs to expect people to only play it because its free and not spend money on this piece of **** |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:19:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:This game is a POS. It hasn't been good since E3. Yeah horrible hit detection, OP Tanks and Heavies, Huge lag spikes, invalid fittings and disconnects every other match was so fun and exciting; never new what glitch would happen next....
Don't forget dropship missile campouts... But the heavies were far from OP. They kind of sucked and were weak and squishy. It's ok though. When you have been in beta for as long as some of us the memory starts to go. Darn kids. Get off my lawn. I'm gonna do a get out my Credron and dance to the left, dance to the right, toss down some remote explosives and get all maudlin about the good ol' days.
Oh, and to the OP. It is a lot the same. There were so many events during closed beta that saw an influx of new players that hated on sight and then rage quit that I haven't really felt like open beta was anything other than a stage in the ongoing evolution of the game.
I really do think that the devs need to keep focusing on the fundamentals and work on making the game play smoother, more stable, more fluid and solid. If you look at how much things like hit detection have improved you know they can do it. Just need to stick with it. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:22:00 -
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Aighun wrote:But the heavies were far from OP. They kind of sucked and were weak and squishy. .
No heavies used to have as much HP as Some LAVS and the HMG was more powerful. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1035
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:37:00 -
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lol yeah remember pezley in his 1800 armor heavy with 2 logis behind him. Epic.
But ARs and skills game guns about twice they pwer they are today
BRING BACK MY BREACH AR CCP. Haters |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:40:00 -
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Daxos Cavaletto wrote:The thing I miss about close beta is hope. I used to have hope that there was bug fixes, vast improvements, and a bunch of content coming. After almost a year I realized this is what we should expect long term. Just as ccp needs to expect people to only play it because its free and not spend money on this piece of ****
And somehow, after all that, you and many like you are still here. Do you guys sometimes wake up in the middle of the night and turn to your PS 3 and say something like:
"November? What happened to August? Hell, what happened to 2012? Much less 2013? Damnit, DUST, I can't go on like this. I can't live on a few Jpegs of concept art, Soon tm, I know the game has been worse, but you have no idea how bad it gets. I can't make it on a couple of game show merc battles and some back story lore BS that doesn't even make any sense. And corporation battles? Are you kidding me? You are too much for me Dust 514. You curse word curse word.
I wish I knew how to quit you." |
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:48:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Aighun wrote:But the heavies were far from OP. They kind of sucked and were weak and squishy. . No heavies used to have as much HP as Some LAVS and the HMG was more powerful.
But relative to everything else they weren't all that. All the suits had more HP the higher the tier. You really had to work at a heavy and I only remember a few players that really stuck with that class. Compared to replication heavy was not nearly as deadly. Especially starting out. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.02.15 04:12:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Aighun wrote:But the heavies were far from OP. They kind of sucked and were weak and squishy. . No heavies used to have as much HP as Some LAVS and the HMG was more powerful. But relative to everything else they weren't all that. All the suits had more HP the higher the tier. You really had to work at a heavy and I only remember a few players that really stuck with that class. Compared to replication heavy was not nearly as deadly. Especially starting out. And back then we had the Breach AR - you could get in a pissing match with a heavy and actually survive. Sometimes ;) |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:02:00 -
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So many features promised in the feedback/requests weekly updates have yet to come, even things that were announced like forever ago. I want Skirmish 1.0 tweaked as back as a new mode. Best mode. We only have 2 real modes, having Ambush and Ambush OMS is stupid (especially since OMS still has installations and OBs) Traversal of sloped terrain is still terrible. LAVs still drive like they're on ice. Droship collision damage is ********. Friendly vehicle on vehicle collisions is insane. An LAV hitting a friendly tank should damage the LAV, but not completely annihilate it. Reloading times for the AR are longer than the actual animation, making the reloading animations misleading. So many things they claimed would come long ago in the feed Using a crappy militia nanite injector gives you the same WP as using a prototype injector that heals 80% of armor. Using a militia nanite injector and repair tool combo yields more WP then using good effective gear to help your teammates. You'r actually punished for using better stuff to help your team effectively. No battle tutorial, no explanation on how to bring up the squad order wheel, or a variety of important things players need to know; hell, many new players still think they have to bring up the item wheel just to switch weapons instead of just tapping.
Out of battle social stuff is still crappy. There is no popups informing you of your squad or chat invites. You aren't notified at all if someone tried to invite you if you're already in a squad. You can't invite from chat. Loading times for contacts lists.
Right now there's so many frustrating things I hope they dealt with before going open beta. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:16:00 -
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We all know they rushed open beta. You just don't push a game in this condition on people who don't know what they are getting into.
That said, I'm in for the long haul. I figure it will be ready to attract new players in a year or two. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
441
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:24:00 -
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I find that if I go around solo,
Matches are one sided, either we win by a landslide or we lose by one.
Also see an increase in Snipers, as well as HMG(Due to the fact everyone on the forums posts they're OP, then we see 1000 of them in a day because "Must use they're OP" by the newbs, thus we all find it OP"
I like having the beta open, I wish we had done some more stuff first as far as balancing goes, also wish we had had another build before open beta.
The good thing about the influx of new players, is maybe some bugs or maybe some balance issues were kind of like, "well not to many people do it so its fine"
But now it shows us, more of what needs to be worked on. |
ImperfectFan514
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
51
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:26:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:lol yeah remember pezley in his 1800 armor heavy with 2 logis behind him. Epic.
But ARs and skills game guns about twice they pwer they are today
BRING BACK MY BREACH AR CCP. Haters
The game back then was too hard for PVE players. |
Jon Dayne
DUST University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:32:00 -
[47] - Quote
Maybe, I dunno. Maybe they wanted to settle the more major stuff. Like how dust will perform in TQ.. If it was my game, I would get that out of the way ASAP, before the icing on the cake..
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
441
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Posted - 2013.02.15 06:01:00 -
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ImperfectFan514 wrote:Free Beers wrote:lol yeah remember pezley in his 1800 armor heavy with 2 logis behind him. Epic.
But ARs and skills game guns about twice they pwer they are today
BRING BACK MY BREACH AR CCP. Haters The game back then was too hard for PVE players.
lol no joke, the first build was awesome.
I seriously, and no hate to the AR, but feel this is more of an AR game now.
Hell I even skilled into AR after going proto LR, because the AR can be used at the same range as my LR AND up close.
Kills basically just as fast as well.
I'd like to see them restructure the AR's because currently there isn't enough difference between the AR types.
Between militia and Proto theres what? 5 damage difference? pffff.
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Thumb Green
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.02.15 07:01:00 -
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zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote:Thumb Green wrote: Unless you intentionally gimp yourself the game doesn't feel easier, it is easier. With the vets having their skills leveled up and running around with Duvolle's and Boundless HMG's; us newberries get cut down like wheat by a sickle.
I think you underestimate the amount personal skill can change the battle. I am trained for the high level stuff and use it when i want to, but mostly when im grinding for sp and isk i just run militia and still finish on top on the score boards with an easy 2.00 k/d. Use of specific tactics for specific suits can go a long way
Your leveled up skills don't magically go back to 1 when you start using militia gear so you still have an advantage over new players. I'm not underestimating personal skill, I know it's possible for someone that's good at the game to outplay others regardless of of leveled skills and equipment; doesn't change the fact that vets do have an advantage over new players simply because their leveled skills are better and they have access to better equipment.
I'm not complaining about the facts. Playing on an unequal level is just how the game goes for new players. Personally I find it to be a good thing because it forces you to play better if you don't want to get slaughtered. |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
144
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Posted - 2013.02.15 11:46:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:zeek1227 zeek1227 wrote:Thumb Green wrote: Unless you intentionally gimp yourself the game doesn't feel easier, it is easier. With the vets having their skills leveled up and running around with Duvolle's and Boundless HMG's; us newberries get cut down like wheat by a sickle.
I think you underestimate the amount personal skill can change the battle. I am trained for the high level stuff and use it when i want to, but mostly when im grinding for sp and isk i just run militia and still finish on top on the score boards with an easy 2.00 k/d. Use of specific tactics for specific suits can go a long way Your leveled up skills don't magically go back to 1 when you start using militia gear so you still have an advantage over new players. I'm not underestimating personal skill, I know it's possible for someone that's good at the game to outplay others regardless of of leveled skills and equipment; doesn't change the fact that vets do have an advantage over new players simply because their leveled skills are better and they have access to better equipment. I'm not complaining about the facts. Playing on an unequal level is just how the game goes for new players. Personally I find it to be a good thing because it forces you to play better if you don't want to get slaughtered. Oh I know vets have an advantage but I was just saying that even usuing militia you can do good. Yes you need to skill up to do very good but when you start you are just throwing marshmellows at the enemy |
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zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:ImperfectFan514 wrote:Free Beers wrote:lol yeah remember pezley in his 1800 armor heavy with 2 logis behind him. Epic.
But ARs and skills game guns about twice they pwer they are today
BRING BACK MY BREACH AR CCP. Haters The game back then was too hard for PVE players. lol no joke, the first build was awesome. I seriously, and no hate to the AR, but feel this is more of an AR game now. Hell I even skilled into AR after going proto LR, because the AR can be used at the same range as my LR AND up close. Kills basically just as fast as well. I'd like to see them restructure the AR's because currently there isn't enough difference between the AR types. Between militia and Proto theres what? 5 damage difference? pffff. I was using exile for the longest time. I updates to the gek and believe me there is a HUGE difference between those levels at least |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
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I made a new assault character and I can hold a 5.00 k/d with no skills levelled up and only using the starter fits.
I can take on three new berry heavies with my heavy suit.
I'm not trying to brag, but personal skill has everything to do with everything. |
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