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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:03:00 -
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why would ANYBODY USE 1??? I put a 674,890ISK DropShip onto the field FIRST THING... ran a 37minute skirmish and survived!!! ship went 59-0... i went 0-0... 125000ISK... please CCP... nerfed missiles i understand... but, SERIOUSLY... make a HOTZONE that earns passive wp, dmg counter, ANYTHING is better than what we (pilots) have, "NOTHING" ... i LOVE the DropShip, but a DropShip pilot CANT earn enough to even break even... ESPECIALLY WITH DIRE SENTINELS AND MILITIA FORGES... |
Lavirac JR
DUST University
Ivy League
129
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:05:00 -
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Honestly, Missiles having their blast radius back would not be so bad... (keep the range nerfed).
And Small Railguns need more range.... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:08:00 -
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It should 50 WP every 30 seconds you survive with that thing lol |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:10:00 -
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Lavirac JR wrote:Honestly, Missiles having their blast radius back would not be so bad... (keep the range nerfed).
And Small Railguns need more range....
Small railguns need many things- the first of which is decent damage. |
WyrmHero1946
DUST SOULS Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:11:00 -
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I agree, I'm a dropship pilot prospect. I waste so many ISK...They should give you respawning WP for every time a clone respawns on your ship. More incentives to fly the damn ships!!!! |
CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
3
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:11:00 -
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not all the way back... maybe a dual diminishing dmg radii... but NOT what it was... but there should be a greater range on small rails... say 75-80% of large... |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:19:00 -
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Just wait untill the people inside can shoot out withwhatever gun they ave. Dropships can now easily hover in place, so you could set one up and have snipers in it. Or you could fly 4 forge guns over the battle field, PEW PEW PEW
This round of beta testing is allready played out wait for the rest of the game before asking for bufs/nerfs |
WyrmHero1946
DUST SOULS Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:26:00 -
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This is the reason why I have been searching for a way to gain WP by flying the ship. Putting on weapons that are easy to use and kill (blasters) I say. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:29:00 -
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Dropships should earn 50 points for people spawning in it AND
have an "eject all but gunners" button
Also an "Eject all" button |
WyrmHero1946
DUST SOULS Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:32:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Dropships should earn 50 points for people spawning in it AND
have an "eject all but gunners" button
Also an "Eject all" button
LMAO this!!! Me hovering above a null cannon with a full dropship.....get the fack out!!!!! |
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2013.02.14 23:41:00 -
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the cheap ones make good kamikazees |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
334
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:13:00 -
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If you called in a Dropship and you wun the match, regardless if it survived or not you should get double the ISK. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.02.15 00:21:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:If you called in a Dropship and you wun the match, regardless if it survived or not you should get double the ISK.
What logic is this? |
Arunis Gen
G I A N T
9
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:06:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Dropships should earn 50 points for people spawning in it AND
have an "eject all but gunners" button
Also an "Eject all" button
What he said.
I've never had trouble earning WP while piloting a dropship. With competent gunners and decent flying you can earn yourself well over 1,000 WP a match and your squad an OB or two. I may not come out on top of the scoreboards in terms of WP whenever I decide to fly but I am usually within the top 5 if not 3. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2013.02.15 01:47:00 -
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Let's not forget how freaking worthless the Level 3 dropships are....they're already very hard to fit...so it takes out the CPU / PG required for its onboard CRU, and gives you an "extra" high slot....so basically you're paying a boat load of SP and an extra 200k per ship to......do what exactly? Fly the exact fit I'm flying now with my Grim?
Da fuq? |
Rasputin La'Gar
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
28
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:23:00 -
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If you drop with a suit and don't die, you keep your fitting. Why isn't it the same with vehicles that aren't destroyed? |
Bogon Vdemotch
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:27:00 -
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Exactly why i ditched my DS pilot. Even air to air collision kills don't net you any WPs, so in the words of a sage "frak that noise"
Given that tankers at the same SP and ISK go 30+/0, and can mount a cru, god knows why anyone would stick with dropships. |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:30:00 -
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Rasputin La'Gar wrote:If you drop with a suit and don't die, you keep your fitting. Why isn't it the same with vehicles that aren't destroyed?
It is. I do not have to buy a new HAV every match. Only the ones where it gets blowed up. |
Rasputin La'Gar
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
28
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Posted - 2013.02.15 02:50:00 -
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Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote:Rasputin La'Gar wrote:If you drop with a suit and don't die, you keep your fitting. Why isn't it the same with vehicles that aren't destroyed? It is. I do not have to buy a new HAV every match. Only the ones where it gets blowed up.
Wow 
So it was that guy who spawned at my beacon and just took my ship. I didn't think he'd have time to crash (it ended within 20 seconds) but surprise surprise |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:21:00 -
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skimerishs sucks for isk
dropships primarily used in skimerish. |
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Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
432
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Posted - 2013.02.15 03:27:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:why would ANYBODY USE 1??? I put a 674,890ISK DropShip onto the field FIRST THING... ran a 37minute skirmish and survived!!! ship went 59-0... i went 0-0... 125000ISK... please CCP... nerfed missiles i understand... but, SERIOUSLY... make a HOTZONE that earns passive wp, dmg counter, ANYTHING is better than what we (pilots) have, "NOTHING" ... i LOVE the DropShip, but a DropShip pilot CANT earn enough to even break even... ESPECIALLY WITH DIRE SENTINELS AND MILITIA FORGES...
Dropships do need a little push towards the WP side for troop ferrying, as well as LAVs (but that would require removal of free LAV)
However, my squads and I have managed very well to keep my Dropships well and alive for the duration of the game. My gunners have received more kills and WP then 7/8 of the team and I earn Orbitals from my runs. You know how much my fitting costs? 378,000 ISK. That's damn cheap but I've made the most of it and because I rarely lose them now (when I do everything right) I'm getting purely profit because I only have between 0-2 deaths on the board from doing some ground thumping.
Check us out at Condor Squad and we'll get you hooked up. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2013.02.15 04:17:00 -
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I use them to suicide fly my self to some random area.
Yea, I'll jump into one, floor it, then jump out as it is in the middle of doing a flip to it's death.
Why? because I'm rich, and a militia drop ship is chump change. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2013.02.15 04:59:00 -
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Pilots fly because they love it. Then they figure out a way to make it pay.
Dropships will eventually become indispensable and those who have been flying for months will be in demand.
Pilots are a dedicated breed. |
Hunter Junko
WARRIORS 1NC
45
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Posted - 2013.02.15 05:58:00 -
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Dont worry about us, lets hope you can get the job done 
Quote:The greater the difficulty the more glory in surmounting it. Skillful pilots gain their reputation from storms and tempests.
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
3
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:15:00 -
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Arunis Gen wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Dropships should earn 50 points for people spawning in it AND
have an "eject all but gunners" button
Also an "Eject all" button What he said. I've never had trouble earning WP while piloting a dropship. With competent gunners and decent flying you can earn yourself well over 1,000 WP a match and your squad an OB or two. I may not come out on top of the scoreboards in terms of WP whenever I decide to fly but I am usually within the top 5 if not 3.
its NOT the lack of WP... its the lack of ISK return due to the 0-0... ive come in 3rd place and only received 140000ISK due to 0-0.. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
384
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:27:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Pilots fly because they love it. Then they figure out a way to make it pay.
Dropships will eventually become indispensable and those who have been flying for months will be in demand.
Pilots are a dedicated breed.
why must my dropships be so expensive?
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
3
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:28:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:CaoticFox wrote:why would ANYBODY USE 1??? I put a 674,890ISK DropShip onto the field FIRST THING... ran a 37minute skirmish and survived!!! ship went 59-0... i went 0-0... 125000ISK... please CCP... nerfed missiles i understand... but, SERIOUSLY... make a HOTZONE that earns passive wp, dmg counter, ANYTHING is better than what we (pilots) have, "NOTHING" ... i LOVE the DropShip, but a DropShip pilot CANT earn enough to even break even... ESPECIALLY WITH DIRE SENTINELS AND MILITIA FORGES... Dropships do need a little push towards the WP side for troop ferrying, as well as LAVs (but that would require removal of free LAV) However, my squads and I have managed very well to keep my Dropships well and alive for the duration of the game. My gunners have received more kills and WP then 7/8 of the team and I earn Orbitals from my runs. You know how much my fitting costs? 378,000 ISK. That's damn cheap but I've made the most of it and because I rarely lose them now (when I do everything right) I'm getting purely profit because I only have between 0-2 deaths on the board from doing some ground thumping. Check us out at Condor Squad and we'll get you hooked up.
i AM a great pilot and my ship is designed to make a blueberry n00b gunner DEADLY... but then there is "Maglives"... "Kane Spero"... and many others aspiring to be like them... my ship ROCKS but even with a SHIP KDR of 230-1 (which it has) it does NOT pay for itself... MY GUNNERS ARE "RICH" BUT I CANT STOCK MY SHIP BY FLYING IT ALONE!!!
CCP HELP!!! |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:43:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Pilots fly because they love it. Then they figure out a way to make it pay.
Dropships will eventually become indispensable and those who have been flying for months will be in demand.
Pilots are a dedicated breed.
Making it pay isn't so hard. One game, I tipped over on landing (it was almost a full ship too), and just sat there for a few minutes trying to maneuver it on its side until the game ended- I went 0-0 with 0 WP, but still made 140k ISK, and didn't lose the dropship. |
CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
3
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:52:00 -
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quick math
ship about 700k
60 kills earn the pilot 2100 wp
140000ISK 0-0.
700k / 140k is 5
230-1 ... 60 PER MATCH is 4 matches showing a SLIGHT profit RIGHT???
but its a DropShip NOT A GunShip... hence the missile nerf (which i agree with)
so if its AN UNREAL GUNSHIP it pays for itself... but what of the ACTUAL DropShips???
the Troop Ferriers... with MAGZ and KANE u can take "1" hit and live...
we NEED points for doing our job JUST SAFELY DELIVERING TROOPS INTO DROPLINKLESS HOSTILE AREAS...
we shouldnt have to build an Apache... its a BlackHawk... it needs to be able to pay for itself... when its fitted and flown properly ... NOT for the 10 second deaths... |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2013.02.16 00:04:00 -
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How much extra utility are you really getting out of all that prototype gear? You can fit a viper for about half that and it'll perform almost as well. |
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