DUST Search - useless weapons thoughts

Knarf Black wrote:

IRuby Heart wrote:

Knight SoIaire wrote:

Mocha Biscotti wrote:

I want to say the Breach shotgun specifically. I have never been more frustrated playing this game than, when I had to use it after I ran out of HMK4s (I realize they are Aur weapons but, COME ON.) I could usually best a heavy. With Breach? I had to stalk and surprise or kill steal to get a postive KDR
The rest in that category are good, But its so bad I was told to just use my Militia one until I could afford tier 3.

Thats just my opinion though. Perhaps other people love the **** outa the breach.

The Breach is probably THE most annoying Shotgun I've ever used, the slow RoF coupled with terrible hitmarkers makes it the worst Shotgun in the game.

I recently got the CRG-3, so its all good.

Good God, the CRG-3 is ridiculous, I'm not gunna start making an OP thread, but seriously that thing is a nightmare to face.

If a good, stealthy scout gets behind your lines with it, Dust suddenly turns into Climax of the Blair Witch Project: The Game.

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Val'herik Dorn CrimeWave Syndicate 263	Posted - 2013.02.14 18:50:00 - [1] - Quote So I always see people whining about Op weapons... What about weapons that have no real use? Nova knives obviously fall in this catagory so we can assume that. What does the community think any weapons that could use a little dev love?
WyrmHero1946 DUST SOULS Inc. 3	Posted - 2013.02.14 18:52:00 - [2] - Quote Just was going to ask what's the deal with Swarm Launchers??? Forge Guns replace them right???
Mocha Biscotti Red Star. 10	Posted - 2013.02.14 18:54:00 - [3] - Quote I want to say the Breach shotgun specifically. I have never been more frustrated playing this game than, when I had to use it after I ran out of HMK4s (I realize they are Aur weapons but, COME ON.) I could usually best a heavy. With Breach? I had to stalk and surprise or kill steal to get a postive KDR The rest in that category are good, But its so bad I was told to just use my Militia one until I could afford tier 3. Thats just my opinion though. Perhaps other people love the **** outa the breach.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 32	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:06:00 - [4] - Quote Mocha Biscotti wrote: I want to say the Breach shotgun specifically. I have never been more frustrated playing this game than, when I had to use it after I ran out of HMK4s (I realize they are Aur weapons but, COME ON.) I could usually best a heavy. With Breach? I had to stalk and surprise or kill steal to get a postive KDR The rest in that category are good, But its so bad I was told to just use my Militia one until I could afford tier 3. Thats just my opinion though. Perhaps other people love the **** outa the breach. The Breach is probably THE most annoying Shotgun I've ever used, the slow RoF coupled with terrible hitmarkers makes it the worst Shotgun in the game. I recently got the CRG-3, so its all good.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 326	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:13:00 - [5] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: Mocha Biscotti wrote: I want to say the Breach shotgun specifically. I have never been more frustrated playing this game than, when I had to use it after I ran out of HMK4s (I realize they are Aur weapons but, COME ON.) I could usually best a heavy. With Breach? I had to stalk and surprise or kill steal to get a postive KDR The rest in that category are good, But its so bad I was told to just use my Militia one until I could afford tier 3. Thats just my opinion though. Perhaps other people love the **** outa the breach. The Breach is probably THE most annoying Shotgun I've ever used, the slow RoF coupled with terrible hitmarkers makes it the worst Shotgun in the game. I recently got the CRG-3, so its all good. Good God, the CRG-3 is ridiculous, I'm not gunna start making an OP thread, but seriously that thing is a nightmare to face.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:18:00 - [6] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: Mocha Biscotti wrote: I want to say the Breach shotgun specifically. I have never been more frustrated playing this game than, when I had to use it after I ran out of HMK4s (I realize they are Aur weapons but, COME ON.) I could usually best a heavy. With Breach? I had to stalk and surprise or kill steal to get a postive KDR The rest in that category are good, But its so bad I was told to just use my Militia one until I could afford tier 3. Thats just my opinion though. Perhaps other people love the **** outa the breach. The Breach is probably THE most annoying Shotgun I've ever used, the slow RoF coupled with terrible hitmarkers makes it the worst Shotgun in the game. I recently got the CRG-3, so its all good. Good God, the CRG-3 is ridiculous, I'm not gunna start making an OP thread, but seriously that thing is a nightmare to face. If a good, stealthy scout gets behind your lines with it, Dust suddenly turns into Climax of the Blair Witch Project: The Game.
Treemugger I mug trees. 34	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:28:00 - [7] - Quote Yes, the Breach definitely needs a buff. The Swarm Launchers are pretty pointless right now because they're meant for AA, but A's to shoot at are few and far between.
DJINN Marauder Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 254	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:29:00 - [8] - Quote Swarms f*ck armor tanks up! Better than forge does. But to shields its almost useless
Mocha Biscotti Red Star. 10	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:30:00 - [9] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: IRuby Heart wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: Mocha Biscotti wrote: I want to say the Breach shotgun specifically. I have never been more frustrated playing this game than, when I had to use it after I ran out of HMK4s (I realize they are Aur weapons but, COME ON.) I could usually best a heavy. With Breach? I had to stalk and surprise or kill steal to get a postive KDR The rest in that category are good, But its so bad I was told to just use my Militia one until I could afford tier 3. Thats just my opinion though. Perhaps other people love the **** outa the breach. The Breach is probably THE most annoying Shotgun I've ever used, the slow RoF coupled with terrible hitmarkers makes it the worst Shotgun in the game. I recently got the CRG-3, so its all good. Good God, the CRG-3 is ridiculous, I'm not gunna start making an OP thread, but seriously that thing is a nightmare to face. If a good, stealthy scout gets behind your lines with it, Dust suddenly turns into Climax of the Blair Witch Project: The Game. Yes. I should be getting mine this afternoon. o3o Im going to run around gooing BOOF BOOF BOOF and cackling like a mad woman over squad chat. It was glorious when I bought a few Chimeras to tide me over. BRB dunking fools.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 32	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:31:00 - [10] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: Mocha Biscotti wrote: I want to say the Breach shotgun specifically. I have never been more frustrated playing this game than, when I had to use it after I ran out of HMK4s (I realize they are Aur weapons but, COME ON.) I could usually best a heavy. With Breach? I had to stalk and surprise or kill steal to get a postive KDR The rest in that category are good, But its so bad I was told to just use my Militia one until I could afford tier 3. Thats just my opinion though. Perhaps other people love the **** outa the breach. The Breach is probably THE most annoying Shotgun I've ever used, the slow RoF coupled with terrible hitmarkers makes it the worst Shotgun in the game. I recently got the CRG-3, so its all good. Good God, the CRG-3 is ridiculous, I'm not gunna start making an OP thread, but seriously that thing is a nightmare to face. Not my CRG-3! I should've said nothing.

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 373	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:32:00 - [11] - Quote Treemugger wrote: Yes, the Breach definitely needs a buff. The Swarm Launchers are pretty pointless right now because they're meant for AA, but A's to shoot at are few and far between. swarms aren't hugely effective at AA. Most the time we can dodge them, but forge guns...shudder when they're in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing, cue the moment 2 seconds before impact when you see a FG round come flying at you.
Guildo Crow ZionTCD Legacy Rising 15	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:36:00 - [12] - Quote How about the Breach and Tactical AR's. any thoughts on those? I find them pretty useless. Has anyone had much success with them? I remember the Breach was OP in an early build, then subsequently the Tactical. An increase in damage would make sense to me.
Mocha Biscotti Red Star. 10	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:40:00 - [13] - Quote Guildo Crow wrote: How about the Breach and Tactical AR's. any thoughts on those? I find them pretty useless. Has anyone had much success with them? I remember the Breach was OP in an early build, then subsequently the Tactical. An increase in damage would make sense to me. With how few shots it has yes, You'd think it should be a chunk and dunk. Instead of a supportive shotgun. (How i used it, I would lower someone to one tic for an AR users to clean up.) aka not to much fun
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:43:00 - [14] - Quote gbghg wrote: Treemugger wrote: Yes, the Breach definitely needs a buff. The Swarm Launchers are pretty pointless right now because they're meant for AA, but A's to shoot at are few and far between. swarms aren't hugely effective at AA. Most the time we can dodge them, but forge guns...shudder when they're in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing, cue the moment 2 seconds before impact when you see a FG round come flying at you. Generally I have to catch dropships off guard with the most damaging Swarms I have available in order to swat them out of the sky. I still end up getting them more often than not, but it takes ~3 volleys for every 1 that actually hits when they're trying to evade me. For sheer damage and reliability: Forge > Swarm, but the forge gunner is stuck in a slow suit with no ammo replenishment. Swarm guys can set up sniping positions and engage in guerrilla tactics. (With the sad but necessary removal of dumbfire, sneaking up behind a tank with a scout and hammering him up the rear end is no longer viable.) If you put a Swarm and a Forge guy together, that's when the real fireworks begin.
Terram Nenokal BetaMax. 115	Posted - 2013.02.14 19:47:00 - [15] - Quote Tac AR went from OP to useless pretty damn quick.
Rasputin La'Gar Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 28	Posted - 2013.02.14 20:06:00 - [16] - Quote Right now, with the GEK, you pay 10,000 more ISK for 1 extra damage point. You can actually save money by simply upgrading your damage modifier. This really needs to change imo
Rasputin La'Gar Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 28	Posted - 2013.02.14 20:08:00 - [17] - Quote Terram Nenokal wrote: Tac AR went from OP to useless pretty damn quick. Since this used to be my favorite weapon (and that was after the nerf), how did it change? I can still get a decent kill spree going when I switch to my old dropsuit.
Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 47	Posted - 2013.02.14 20:51:00 - [18] - Quote Only weapons that would be useless are ones that get nerfed
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 183	Posted - 2013.02.14 20:56:00 - [19] - Quote Has anyone tried nova knives against a shield tank?
Bhor Derri Legion of Eden 95	Posted - 2013.02.14 21:41:00 - [20] - Quote Flux Nades. Armor Tanks. Breach Mass Driver. Assault Mass Driver.

James Thraxton The Exemplars 73	Posted - 2013.02.14 22:18:00 - [21] - Quote breach smg 50% RPM cut for 25% DPR increase, obviously inferior to the higher RPM models
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 362	Posted - 2013.02.14 22:48:00 - [22] - Quote Bhor Derri wrote: Flux Nades. Armor Tanks. Breach Mass Driver. Assault Mass Driver. Red Dot Blob + Advanced Assault Mass Driver + Flux Grenade = Christmahanukwanzika. Rasputin La'Gar wrote: Right now, with the GEK, you pay 10,000 more ISK for 1 extra damage point. You can actually save money by simply upgrading your damage modifier. This really needs to change imo They leveled weapon damage a little while ago. Instead of the previous 10% difference between levels it is now 5%. You still get some secondary bonuses but damage is longer the main reason to upgrade.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.14 23:32:00 - [23] - Quote Breach mass driver Breach scrambler pistol SMGs Small railguns
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.02.14 23:34:00 - [24] - Quote Terram Nenokal wrote: Tac AR went from OP to useless pretty damn quick. CCP has gotten pretty good at that.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.02.14 23:34:00 - [25] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Breach mass driver Breach scrambler pistol SMGs Small railguns Not much wrong with SMGs imo The only thing they need is faster turning speed in ads.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 70	Posted - 2013.02.14 23:37:00 - [26] - Quote breach weapons seem to be largely boycotted. Apart from the missiles, I'd say breach weapons are the most useless. I like the tac rifle btw
Sylwester Dziewiecki BetaMax. 33	Posted - 2013.02.14 23:57:00 - [27] - Quote Missiles..
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.02.15 00:00:00 - [28] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Missiles.. Missiles really did get hit way too hard with the nerf bat. The small ones oughtta get their accuracy set back to where it was and the large ones would be good with a fairly hefty reduction on the deviation as well.


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