I have a suggestion for the current way in which skills are trained. Would it be possible to allow users to train skills more like they do in EVE?

Here is my suggestion in a little detail:

Skill points would accumulate as they do now but if it was your preference to use this new system you could choose a skill and select an option for putting all active sp into the skill, all passive sp into a skill, both or none. This system would allow people to plan ahead with the skills that they want and then not have to think about it until the skill is finished (maybe a little "ding" could remind players their skill is trained).

The reason I suggest this is because I personally love the passive nature of EVE's levelling up and combining the two systems would help players to set goals to reach for skill sets that are more long term, or if anything to simply remember what they want to train next.

This could be a good way to prevent players from wasting SP. Having points you earn automatically be funneled into skills of your choice would prevent you from leveling up unnecessary skills on a whim. There would still be the option to spend points manually, of course.

I honestly believe there are bigger problems to tackle for the Devs instead of working to ease in some interesting new feature to an already existing system.

That said, I really love this idea. This sort of feature would tie in perfectly with the certificate system, as all you'd have to do is set the certificate, designate where your SP is going in relation to the certificate, and then all you have to worry about is how many people you can shoot in the face over the period of time required to complete the certificate.

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Nope, waste of ccp's time

This could be a good way to prevent players from wasting SP. Having points you earn automatically be funneled into skills of your choice would prevent you from leveling up unnecessary skills on a whim. There would still be the option to spend points manually, of course.

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And explain to me how this will solve anything?

No more thoughts on this idea?

I don't see the point, to be honest.

Don't get me wrong, I also don't see it causing any issues so I'm not, technically, against it. But what exactly would it achieve?

Instead of choosing a skill you want, earning the SP and then getting that skill, you would lock down your choice before you have the SP. I assume you would be able to cancel the choice (otherwise: prepare for whinefests when people realise halfway through that they want another skill), so it would simply be a sort of a "reminder" function...

Again, I wouldn't mind it being implemented (though I wouldn't use it), I just don't see it really adding anything. Maybe if it includes a "character builder" type of tool, where you can play with builds to see the bonuses and SP costs and such, and then save a desired build and put the skills you still need in a list? I'd still want to be able to choose which skill I take once I have the SP, but this would allow you to plan ahead and see what you're working towards...

Though I also like the Eve skill training system and have certainly "wasted" SP on skills (mostly to try new things out, which could happen in Eve all the same), I agree with the sentiments of Kray's post here.

I think it would be time better spent making a certificate system that has the ability to purchase skillbooks and train said skills right in the certificate menu (like the market version we currently have). You set your certificate path you wish to follow. You open the window and see that the next skill is one you don't have. You purchase it right there in that window, train it to level 1 with your current pool of SP. Badda bing badda boom.

I actually prefer the system in Dust to the one in Eve, though. In Eve, if you set a skill that is, say, 8d and then go on a 10d hiatus, you literally lose out on 2 days of skill training. In Dust, that will never happen. The SP pile up until you are ready for them, rather than you needing to be ready at the systems volition.

I don't see the point of this threat other then to punish FPS players who don't log in frequently or to make things overly complicated. The Eve system works great for Eve, I kinda wish I had a skill pool there also, but it is what it is.

The only thing about skills I see would be making them easier to understand. I think doing a Show Info on a weapon or mod or armor should bring up all the skills that can affect it and how they affect it. That way it will be easier to understand for FPS players. Also, just so you can make a plan, it might be cool to add a *Favorites onto skills you want to remember to put points into. Or have each skill you can click to a *Goal* and it will show each skill and how far you are from Goal.

I have a suggestion for the current way in which skills are trained. Would it be possible to allow users to train skills more like they do in EVE?

Here is my suggestion in a little detail:

Skill points would accumulate as they do now but if it was your preference to use this new system you could choose a skill and select an option for putting all active sp into the skill, all passive sp into a skill, both or none. This system would allow people to plan ahead with the skills that they want and then not have to think about it until the skill is finished (maybe a little "ding" could remind players their skill is trained).

The reason I suggest this is because I personally love the passive nature of EVE's levelling up and combining the two systems would help players to set goals to reach for skill sets that are more long term, or if anything to simply remember what they want to train next.

Yes please +1

I especially like the flexibility this method would offer allowing a player to use it, use it for active only, passive only, or not at all.
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How would this benefit anyone though?

Say I want to get 2 skills: 1 costs 100000 sp, the other 200000. Both offer me some type of advantage. If I put all my SP towards 1 first and then the other, I will have 1 of these skills at the earliest possibility and will enjoy the advantage of having that skill (potentially increasing SP gain ever so slightly as well.

If I would split Passive and Active SP between the two, I would still need the same amount of time to get both skills, but I'd have to wait longer to have access to the first... why would I ever do that?

You don't split passive and active. This system would simple allow players to automate their RPG experience. You still acrue SP in the same fashion as you do now but you have the choice to automatically put the SP into a skill so you can focus entirely on playing games and not checking whether you can spend your SP.

Imagine it like this:

- I have AR operation at level 4 and damn it's expensive and doesn't give me that much of a boost in my skills.
- I want shield control level 1 because I'm an idiot and haven't bought it yet.

I could set all of my SP into AR operation for, 2 hours for example, and then have it switch to shield control for any time after that. Whilst still arriving at both end results at the same time you have greater control over the when and how.

But, in that example, why would you ever do anything other than get shield control as soon as you can afford it and then move to AR operation?

(also, regarding splitting active/passive, that was directly in reply to the post I quoted which mentions it)