DUST Search - My Opinion of Dust 514

Sir Eos wrote:

Get out of the FPS business.

I tried to like it... just like I tried to like EVE.

EVE turned me off because of the 'Time invested' aspect overriding the 'skill' aspect.

And it seems that you tried to apply that same concept to the FPS portion.

Good job on catering to a select handful of nerds with nothing better to do than to brag about curb stomping newbies stuck using Militia gear against his awesome proto armors setup..

Better luck next time.

If you had actually made it fun... and accessable, you might have actually accomplished something great. You might have actually boosted your numbers on EVE. But this travesty will be sure to turn off most newcomers to your franchise. Especially if they attempt to go with a sniper first.

Here's what my first 2 games consisted of right before I quit and uninstalled it.

I'm fighting against the sway of my weapon. Then I get sniped out by a Heavy Machine Gun, from what appears to me to be sniping distances? What the point of the sniper then?

Then, the spawn killing commences. OH JOY!

Seriously. GET OUT OF THE FPS BUSINESS! You have no clue WTF you are doing!

FPS should never be about time invested over skill. PERIOD

Your game, has some of the worst movement, control, spawn killing, game mechanics I have ever seen.

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 1 post(s)
Sir Eos Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:30:00 - [1] - Quote Get out of the FPS business. I tried to like it... just like I tried to like EVE. EVE turned me off because of the 'Time invested' aspect overriding the 'skill' aspect. And it seems that you tried to apply that same concept to the FPS portion. Good job on catering to a select handful of nerds with nothing better to do than to brag about curb stomping newbies stuck using Militia gear against his awesome proto armors setup.. Better luck next time. If you had actually made it fun... and accessable, you might have actually accomplished something great. You might have actually boosted your numbers on EVE. But this travesty will be sure to turn off most newcomers to your franchise. Especially if they attempt to go with a sniper first. Here's what my first 2 games consisted of right before I quit and uninstalled it. I'm fighting against the sway of my weapon. Then I get sniped out by a Heavy Machine Gun, from what appears to me to be sniping distances? What the point of the sniper then? Then, the spawn killing commences. OH JOY! Seriously. GET OUT OF THE FPS BUSINESS! You have no clue WTF you are doing! FPS should never be about time invested over skill. PERIOD Your game, has some of the worst movement, control, spawn killing, game mechanics I have ever seen.
Orlando Rez UnReaL. 21	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:35:00 - [2] - Quote Like 10 of my friends tried this game & quit the same day... alot has to do with respawns,learning curb,game mechanics, etc etc... & they really dont see the point of playing at release since by that the majority of us will be way up in SP..
Anndy Dusty Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:36:00 - [3] - Quote clearly this game is not for you, move along now back to cod
Talruum Tezztarozza Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 74	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:39:00 - [4] - Quote Seriously, OP have no clue WTF he is doing.
Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 47	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:40:00 - [5] - Quote Dust isn't an FPS like COD it's essentially a PVP based MMORPG that plays like an FPS. Players skill add alot to their battle ability, more than people probably think. Then you add on Mods to your drop suits ontop of that, You can create some sick loadouts. Your finding your sniper sways alot? Then try crouching and waiting for it to stabilize, also Invest skills into your sniper to reduce the sway. Find your self getting killed at range by a HMG? He's probably skilled in Sharp Shooter to increase his range. But if you was using a sniper then surely you was in cover? Not standing in the open? I don't see how the game isn't fun, Perhaps your problem is that it's nothing like COD which is simple? I understand the idea of having to put thought into a game is beyond the imagination of some FPS players, but Dust is aimed at players who enjoy both RPG's and FPS, hence it's fairly unique style. How many other games can you name that a hybrid of RPG and FPS that is also directly linked to not only a differn't game, but a differn't game on another platform totally. If anything CCP should continue since they've pulling off quite a Feat really.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 37	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:40:00 - [6] - Quote some of ur complaints abt spawn camping, learning curve are valid. others are just silly. u were sniping? most players who read this stopped right there...seriously. and the sway? should you have hand pinpoint aim like COD? the crosshairs should never move and be fixed and perfect right? GTFOH.
Gabriele Kovacs Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:41:00 - [7] - Quote You know what? You said something right: "My Opinion" in the title... and so it counts, the "get out" formula should count for you and this forum. bye!
Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 47	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:41:00 - [8] - Quote Tolen Rosas wrote: some of ur complaints abt spawn camping, learning curve are valid. others are just silly. u were sniping? most players who read this stopped right there...seriously. and the sway? should you have hand pinpoint aim like COD? the crosshairs should never move and be fixed and perfect right? GTFOH. Thing is, he says it like the sniper hard aim is any better on COD...
Atomic Shiver Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:42:00 - [9] - Quote first of all dont complain that your not doing hot just because you joined the game late and have crap for gear thats your own fault for not getting a beta key...they practically handed them out every where..second of all didnt you get the memo? this isnt just a "fps" its also a mmo...so stop whining about the sp system and what have you..this isnt cod where you can pick up a gun and create a class and be a boss. .and lastly this game is beast so peace out and sorry you couldnt stick with it.
Lt Sprinquello Moordzaken en Co. 16	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:43:00 - [10] - Quote This sounds like someone isnt very good at this game. Like said before this is a MMO that eventually will be fully integraded into EVE so thats why its different from normal FPSs. Also if you have taken a closer look at Militia and Prototypes you can see there is not a HUGE difference between them, offcourse the Proto is better but its not overpowered. Stop hating and think before you say something because this is stupid.

Razekial Flameclaw ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:44:00 - [11] - Quote First thing - its BETA, Secondly, the way CCP approached the FPS market is actually quite refreshing - having played FPS's since the days of Quake 1 and even before that with Wolfenstein and Doom, I have seen may games come and they all approach the mechanic the same, especially more recently with the likes of Battlefield and Call of duty that Unlocks = Progression. I have unlocked everything on Call of Duty in a matter of days, and I'm overall pretty good BUT it was the same thing all the time, a new player with exactly the game gun as a seasoned vet could kill just as easily from exactly the same range. Now with this you have a progression system where you choose to build your character how YOU like to play not everyone else - I spend more time with my repper out than my rifle as thatGÇÖs how I play, that doesnGÇÖt mean I canGÇÖt kill things. Yes i suck with a SMG, but IGÇÖm not skilled in SMG's so i should suck with an SMG. Yes i admit the game isnGÇÖt perfect at the moment but neither was COD3 or COD4 or World at War, they all had issues just as DUST does. some people donGÇÖt like change or difference they want the same **** in each and every incarnation, personally I like change and something new, with time and development this single gaming entity could change the way FPS's are treated as a whole, I know I would welcome such a change. Lastly, it could just be this game isnGÇÖt for you, fair enough move along to the next big thing waves
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 177	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:45:00 - [12] - Quote You're entitled to your opinion but when that opinion is based on ignorance it's a very poor one.
Sir Eos Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:45:00 - [13] - Quote I think I will go back to CoD. I mean, most of the replies here just solidify my point that.... building this FPS around the same concept of the MMO. was just wrong. This was their chance to give their entire universe the recognition it needed beyond just the people who have no life. They should take a good look at how CoD handles itself. How it moves, how it feels, etc. AND COPY THAT! But still intergrate it with the larger MMO world. Not make some peice of garbage that only the most die hards EVE fan boys would ever invest the time into. I was hopeful that this would be my motivation back into the EVE universe. Sadly, it was only another nail in the coffin to make me completely forget that EVE ever existed.
Razekial Flameclaw ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:47:00 - [14] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: I think I will go back to CoD. They should take a good look at how CoD handles itself. How it moves, how it feels, etc. AND COPY THAT! But still intergrate it with the larger MMO world. That is EXACTLY what they are NOT trying to do, If anything they should follow BF3 and MAG, we don't need another COD clone, hell may as well follow Homefront and really bring up the dregs of FPS
Arness Omega Simply Surreal 1	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:47:00 - [15] - Quote Shesshhh if you referring to my curb stomp joke.. it was a use of words I dont own proto or duvalle in reality is not needed to "edge of the side walk stomp" the 99 percent of fhis game I was just stating how people are complaing about the isk payouts not covering the cost of said dropsuit builds. Also the game is ment to have a somewhat high learning/playing curve than cod so stop comparing it and bashing ccp for bringing time acquired skills to the fps world they clearly were not trying to make a cod in space game
Sir Eos Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:48:00 - [16] - Quote MAG? Are you serious? You can't be. I will say this though. MAG was definately more fun and accessable than this garbage.
Razekial Flameclaw ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:48:00 - [17] - Quote Arness Omega wrote: Shesshhh if you referring to my curb stomp joke.. it was a use of words I dont own proto or duvalle in reality is not needed to "edge of the side walk stomp" the 99 percent of fhis game I was just stating how people are complaing about the isk payouts not covering the cost of said dropsuit builds. Also the game is ment to have a somewhat high learning/playing curve then cod so stop comparing it and bashing ccp for bringing time acquired skills to the fps world they clearing were not trying to make a cod in space game Halo? :)
Razekial Flameclaw ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:50:00 - [18] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: MAG? Are you serious? You can't be. MAG was a benchmark in Console Gaming, admittedly it wasnt the greatest but it took console gming to a level allowing 256 concurrent players in 1 game, thats usually a PC feat.
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 177	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:51:00 - [19] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: MAG? Are you serious? You can't be. We all figured out by now that what you like in a shooter is to be handheld as much as possible and not challenged at all. You can go back to claustrophobic "shooting fish in a barrel" kind of gameplay any time you want.
Sir Eos Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:55:00 - [20] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Sir Eos wrote: MAG? Are you serious? You can't be. We all figured out by now that what you like in a shooter is to be handheld as much as possible and not challenged at all. You can go back to claustrophobic "shooting fish in a barrel" kind of gameplay any time you want. No, I like a game that isn't going to punish me just because I wasn't there at Day 1 I like a game that actually feels good to control. Not something where I am fighting against the controls. This game is more frustrating than fun. Especially if your a newbie going against people who have the 'time invested' to outclass you not with skill. but with time. BF is a great game because it's not frustrating to control or keep up COD is a great game because......... Halo is a great game because.......... Get the picture? 90% of the time developing a FPS should be to ensure that it is FUN to Control your character. Not frustrating. In other words.... CCP needs to get the hell out of the FPS business until they figure that portion out. Go ahead and keep defending your garbage game. Just keep in mind that its not going to make it very far, except to those players who are already invested into the other part of the EVE universe. And trust me, I ******* hate CoD for how simple it is. I wanted another FPS franchise to invest into. This is not going to be it. I may just have to break down and install Origin just to get my fix with BF3..... and I hate you for that.

Lt Sprinquello Moordzaken en Co. 16	Posted - 2013.02.13 10:59:00 - [21] - Quote Maybe you shouldnt give up so fast. in the beginning I died more then lived. Now im on a killing spree and only playing for a month and I dont play everyday.
Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 47	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:01:00 - [22] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: I think I will go back to CoD. I mean, most of the replies here just solidify my point that.... building this FPS around the same concept of the MMO. was just wrong. This was their chance to give their entire universe the recognition it needed beyond just the people who have no life. They should take a good look at how CoD handles itself. How it moves, how it feels, etc. AND COPY THAT! But still intergrate it with the larger MMO world. Not make some peice of garbage that only the most die hards EVE fan boys would ever invest the time into. I was hopeful that this would be my motivation back into the EVE universe. Sadly, it was only another nail in the coffin to make me completely forget that EVE ever existed. The games in BETA and it already surpasses COD in every aspect except it's lack of ids screaming down mics and the fact in DUST when you pick a differn't weapon it actually is differn't. You sure you just wasn't overwhelmed by the sheer amount of Customization in Dust compared to COD which anyone can pick up and play and be god like assuming they pay money for the high end connections
Anndy Dusty Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:02:00 - [23] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: I think I will go back to CoD. I mean, most of the replies here just solidify my point that.... building this FPS around the same concept of the MMO. was just wrong. This was their chance to give their entire universe the recognition it needed beyond just the people who have no life. They should take a good look at how CoD handles itself. How it moves, how it feels, etc. AND COPY THAT! But still intergrate it with the larger MMO world. Not make some peice of garbage that only the most die hards EVE fan boys would ever invest the time into. I was hopeful that this would be my motivation back into the EVE universe. Sadly, it was only another nail in the coffin to make me completely forget that EVE ever existed. now i know your just trolling, back to your cave now
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 177	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:04:00 - [24] - Quote And you figured out all that in 2 games. Yeah, right. You're either really stupid or a troll. I'm betting you didn't even spend your SP to improve your skills before going into battle. Then you did the most noob and ignorant thing possible by spawning with a sniper rifle thinking you'd shoot people at close quarters. If an HMG killed you and you think that was sniping range, you've got to be insane.
Sir Eos Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:09:00 - [25] - Quote Also keep in mind when i mentioned copying COD, these few points. Don't blow it out of proportion. Look at how COD FEELS! in your hands. It FEELS GOOD! to play it. Yes it is simple. BUT IT RUNS ***** GREAT! That is the part they need to copy. That is why it is so succesful Halo can also attribute it's success to how it felt when you were playing it. It has nothing to do with the underlying mechanics of how you unlock **. It has everything to do with Aim Sensitivites, Movement speeds, Accelerations, etc. This game is currently garbage in most every one of those aspects.
Sir Eos Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:13:00 - [26] - Quote Yagihige wrote: And you figured out all that in 2 games. Yeah, right. You're either really stupid or a troll. I'm betting you didn't even spend your SP to improve your skills before going into battle. Then you did the most noob and ignorant thing possible by spawning with a sniper rifle thinking you'd shoot people at close quarters. If an HMG killed you and you think that was sniping range, you've got to be insane. I sure did spend my SP. Why do you think I mentioned the entire 'time invested' aspect of my complaint? DUHR!!!!! And yes, 2 games is all it took for me to figure out how stupid this game is. And no, I was not attempting CQC with a sniper. These were sniping distances that I was being sniped out from with anything other than a sniper. By the time I would crouch waiting for the thing to stop swaying, I'd either be dead, or moving in an attempt to avoid being shot dead by the weapons in question. Just for the record, I go into EVERY FPS game as a sniper first. I judge a game on how it handles the sniper class. And this game failed. I started my Halo Career as a Sniper (Whenever I could get to it first). It was pleasing and fun to play from the first moment that you picked the weapon up and used it. I started my BF:BC2 Career as a sniper first. It was pleasing and fun to play with and learn the bullet drop, distances, etc. I started my Dust 514 Career as a sniper first. And it took 2 games for me to uninstall the game.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:16:00 - [27] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: Get out of the FPS business. I tried to like it... just like I tried to like EVE. EVE turned me off because of the 'Time invested' aspect overriding the 'skill' aspect. And it seems that you tried to apply that same concept to the FPS portion. Good job on catering to a select handful of nerds with nothing better to do than to brag about curb stomping newbies stuck using Militia gear against his awesome proto armors setup.. Better luck next time. If you had actually made it fun... and accessable, you might have actually accomplished something great. You might have actually boosted your numbers on EVE. But this travesty will be sure to turn off most newcomers to your franchise. Especially if they attempt to go with a sniper first. Here's what my first 2 games consisted of right before I quit and uninstalled it. I'm fighting against the sway of my weapon. Then I get sniped out by a Heavy Machine Gun, from what appears to me to be sniping distances? What the point of the sniper then? Then, the spawn killing commences. OH JOY! Seriously. GET OUT OF THE FPS BUSINESS! You have no clue WTF you are doing! FPS should never be about time invested over skill. PERIOD Your game, has some of the worst movement, control, spawn killing, game mechanics I have ever seen. Oh FFS just go play another game if you don't like it, don't bash the entire game over the mechanics that make it different than anything else.
Lt Sprinquello Moordzaken en Co. 16	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:19:00 - [28] - Quote I must admit CoD feels good but you cannot compare it with DUST, like I said I had my problems first but you GOT TO ADAPT! Its a refreshing new game and not for people who want a "Plug and Play" FPS like CoD Its you opnion about the game but saying CCP should stop making FPS is just silly.
Anndy Dusty Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:20:00 - [29] - Quote Sir Eos wrote: Yagihige wrote: And you figured out all that in 2 games. Yeah, right. You're either really stupid or a troll. I'm betting you didn't even spend your SP to improve your skills before going into battle. Then you did the most noob and ignorant thing possible by spawning with a sniper rifle thinking you'd shoot people at close quarters. If an HMG killed you and you think that was sniping range, you've got to be insane. I sure did spend my SP. Why do you think I mentioned the entire 'time invested' aspect of my complaint? DUHR!!!!! And yes, 2 games is all it took for me to figure out how stupid this game is. this isn't cod, you cant run around in the open, snipers are actually true snipers theres no quick scoping crap, you have to use cover, you have to know when to fall back and not fight the 8 enemies in front of you, you cant just unload your assault rifle and still be perfectly accurate there is such a thing as recoil learn to work with it
boba's fetta Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers 8	Posted - 2013.02.13 11:25:00 - [30] - Quote tbh i dont want to play a game where i can just run around like a madman blasting anything that moves. the way this game handles in regards to controls is pretty good. it slows the pace down and requires more tactical thinking flanking is vital several people taking on a heavy it takes thought not just herp derp charge. if you dont like the fact this game feels like eve then you shouldnt of been playing an eve based game. while you certainly dont enjoy the efforts of the devs to give us something different i do. dust even has my friend looking at joining eve hes enjoying it that much even though he is being curb stomped over and over. it should also be noted that the eve universe is not for thosse with the attension span of a goldfish.



Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page