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1ANONLYRIDER
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.11 11:39:00 -
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i feel like we should be able to sprint and throw granades at the same time i shouldn't have to stop in place to stop sprint and then throw one it messed up even if you make the sprint stop when you click to throw one that would even help as of now you have to stop sprinting wait a sec and then throw one it really sucks for timeing in a fire fight i have to stop and get shot just to throw a granade come on CCP fix this please its really the only unfulid part of the battle macanics everything else needs a little work this one problem here is just a really big one that needs to be fixed to make battle smoother please and thank you |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.02.11 12:09:00 -
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This is not a big problem at all. In fact I'd go as far as to say this is not a problem, period. You ever tried doing something with both hands when running at full sprint? You really think a person could be coordinated enough to holster their weapon, pull out a grenade, pull the pin and throw it with any degree of accuracy without slowing down at all?
Go on, try it. (probably with something other than a gun and grenade). Please report back how many times you fall over or smack into something because you weren't paying enough attention to where you were running. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2013.02.11 12:12:00 -
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Dots that you missing in your tekst are holes that you take when you run and shot.
Clone Distribution Department decides that this order * from user will be hardware-blocked for all good.
* also:
run - reload
run - shoot
run - high kick with dash |
1ANONLYRIDER
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.11 13:12:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:This is not a big problem at all. In fact I'd go as far as to say this is not a problem, period. You ever tried doing something with both hands when running at full sprint? You really think a person could be coordinated enough to holster their weapon, pull out a grenade, pull the pin and throw it with any degree of accuracy without slowing down at all?
Go on, try it. (probably with something other than a gun and grenade). Please report back how many times you fall over or smack into something because you weren't paying enough attention to where you were running.
EVERY TROOP IN ARE US MILITARY CAN DO WHAT YOU SAID CANT BE DONE AND I REAL WAR YOU WOULD NEVER STOP LIKE THIS GAME DOES DUE TO SNIPERS I UNDERSTAND SLOWING DOWN BUT STOPING AFTER SPRINT TO WALK AN THROW COME ON REALLY ( I CAN CLICK THE GRANADE BUTTON 3 TIMES AFTER STOPING SPRINT BEFORE THE GRANADE WILL LAUNCH NOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SINCE AT ALL HECK NO IT DONT SAYING ARE US TROOPS CANT DO 3 THINGS AT ONCE ROFOL STFU |
Jack McReady
A.C.M.E Corp
71
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Posted - 2013.02.11 14:29:00 -
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1ANONLYRIDER wrote:Django Quik wrote:This is not a big problem at all. In fact I'd go as far as to say this is not a problem, period. You ever tried doing something with both hands when running at full sprint? You really think a person could be coordinated enough to holster their weapon, pull out a grenade, pull the pin and throw it with any degree of accuracy without slowing down at all?
Go on, try it. (probably with something other than a gun and grenade). Please report back how many times you fall over or smack into something because you weren't paying enough attention to where you were running. EVERY TROOP IN ARE US MILITARY CAN DO WHAT YOU SAID CANT BE DONE AND I REAL WAR YOU WOULD NEVER STOP LIKE THIS GAME DOES DUE TO SNIPERS I UNDERSTAND SLOWING DOWN BUT STOPING AFTER SPRINT TO WALK AN THROW COME ON REALLY ( I CAN CLICK THE GRANADE BUTTON 3 TIMES AFTER STOPING SPRINT BEFORE THE GRANADE WILL LAUNCH NOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SINCE AT ALL HECK NO IT DONT SAYING ARE US TROOPS CANT DO 3 THINGS AT ONCE ROFOL STFU
have to agree despite you having issues with capital letters. everything of what you mentioned is possible. in austria this actually is basic training in the military, doing stuff while running (reloading, dropping on rocks to get cover without hurting yourself and carrying your wounded mate, ofcourse not everything at once)
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.11 14:39:00 -
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We're freakin space mercs with crazy enhancements, we should be able to do it; especially with hundreds or thousands of lives worth of muscle memory.
At the very least grenades should cancel running, I hate having to stop completely before I can throw a grenade. The fact that it interferes with gameplay is more important than whatever "realism" excuse people bring up.
I also hate when a topic important to me has been brought up in such a crappy disorganized post with no punctuation. OP, please edit posts to punctuate to make your self more understandable, and change the all caps. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:51:00 -
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1ANONLYRIDER wrote:Django Quik wrote:This is not a big problem at all. In fact I'd go as far as to say this is not a problem, period. You ever tried doing something with both hands when running at full sprint? You really think a person could be coordinated enough to holster their weapon, pull out a grenade, pull the pin and throw it with any degree of accuracy without slowing down at all?
Go on, try it. (probably with something other than a gun and grenade). Please report back how many times you fall over or smack into something because you weren't paying enough attention to where you were running. EVERY TROOP IN ARE US MILITARY CAN DO WHAT YOU SAID CANT BE DONE AND I REAL WAR YOU WOULD NEVER STOP LIKE THIS GAME DOES DUE TO SNIPERS I UNDERSTAND SLOWING DOWN BUT STOPING AFTER SPRINT TO WALK AN THROW COME ON REALLY ( I CAN CLICK THE GRANADE BUTTON 3 TIMES AFTER STOPING SPRINT BEFORE THE GRANADE WILL LAUNCH NOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SINCE AT ALL HECK NO IT DONT SAYING ARE US TROOPS CANT DO 3 THINGS AT ONCE ROFOL STFU
Do you realise that Dust mercs normal speed is running?
The faster speed beyond that is SPRINTING.
PS: Trying to emphasize your whole text doesn't bring the results you'd wish. |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.02.11 16:07:00 -
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1ANONLYRIDER wrote:Django Quik wrote:This is not a big problem at all. In fact I'd go as far as to say this is not a problem, period. You ever tried doing something with both hands when running at full sprint? You really think a person could be coordinated enough to holster their weapon, pull out a grenade, pull the pin and throw it with any degree of accuracy without slowing down at all?
Go on, try it. (probably with something other than a gun and grenade). Please report back how many times you fall over or smack into something because you weren't paying enough attention to where you were running. EVERY TROOP IN ARE US MILITARY CAN DO WHAT YOU SAID CANT BE DONE AND I REAL WAR YOU WOULD NEVER STOP LIKE THIS GAME DOES DUE TO SNIPERS I UNDERSTAND SLOWING DOWN BUT STOPING AFTER SPRINT TO WALK AN THROW COME ON REALLY ( I CAN CLICK THE GRANADE BUTTON 3 TIMES AFTER STOPING SPRINT BEFORE THE GRANADE WILL LAUNCH NOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SINCE AT ALL HECK NO IT DONT SAYING ARE US TROOPS CANT DO 3 THINGS AT ONCE ROFOL STFU
I cant understand what you arE Saying |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.11 16:54:00 -
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1ANONLYRIDER wrote:Django Quik wrote:This is not a big problem at all. In fact I'd go as far as to say this is not a problem, period. You ever tried doing something with both hands when running at full sprint? You really think a person could be coordinated enough to holster their weapon, pull out a grenade, pull the pin and throw it with any degree of accuracy without slowing down at all?
Go on, try it. (probably with something other than a gun and grenade). Please report back how many times you fall over or smack into something because you weren't paying enough attention to where you were running. EVERY TROOP IN ARE US MILITARY CAN DO WHAT YOU SAID CANT BE DONE AND I REAL WAR YOU WOULD NEVER STOP LIKE THIS GAME DOES DUE TO SNIPERS I UNDERSTAND SLOWING DOWN BUT STOPING AFTER SPRINT TO WALK AN THROW COME ON REALLY ( I CAN CLICK THE GRANADE BUTTON 3 TIMES AFTER STOPING SPRINT BEFORE THE GRANADE WILL LAUNCH NOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SINCE AT ALL HECK NO IT DONT SAYING ARE US TROOPS CANT DO 3 THINGS AT ONCE ROFOL STFU
Translation:
Every troop in the US military can do what you said can't be done, and in a real war, you would never stop like you must in this game because of snipers. I understand slowing down, but stopping completely after sprint to walk and throw a grenade is ridiculous. Furthermore, there is a delay between pressing the grenade button after stopping, and when the grenade is actually thrown. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.02.11 17:46:00 -
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In Dust you don't have to completely stop to throw a grenade, you can still throw it whilst moving at around 5m/s, which for most people is pretty quick running. Yes, this is perfectly possible both in reality and in the game but try running full sprint and tell me you can do all those things - full sprint being over 7m/s, which is roughly a 14 second hundred metres. Please do this with full combat gear and all those other actions I listed that are required to throw a grenade successfully.
Also, caps and lack of punctuation do not a good point make. |
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1ANONLYRIDER
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.12 11:09:00 -
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SPRINTING : you drop the straped on wepon which is connected buy teather so it goes nowhere but to your hip hands are free (still sprinting) you grab the granade from your chest witch is were they normaly found on battle gear for easy access you pull the pin and take three more sprinting steps **** arm back like a football QB give it all you got then huck it then wait (BOOM!!!!!!!!!) all of this done while sprinting |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.02.12 11:25:00 -
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1ANONLYRIDER wrote:SPRINTING : you drop the straped on wepon which is connected buy teather so it goes nowhere but to your hip hands are free (still sprinting) you grab the granade from your chest witch is were they normaly found on battle gear for easy access you pull the pin and take three more sprinting steps **** arm back like a football QB give it all you got then huck it then wait (BOOM!!!!!!!!!) all of this done while sprinting
It is hard enough to do a 14 second hundred metres anyway. You can not do this stuff whilst running that fast - also how about all those people using big weapons like swarm launchers? Is that shoulder mounted weapon tethered to your character to be dropped quickly without affecting your running speed? And running with a big thing dangling down next to your legs is not optimal, so you won't be doing 7m/s anymore. Doing anything at all, even just looking to the side will slow you down when running as fast as you possibly can.
Also, ever notice how QBs have to pretty much stop to be able to throw the ball? That's because you can't throw very well without planting your feet to give you that extra oomph. If you really want to be able to throw grenades whilst sprinting, your accuracy would have to be as bad as the dispersion on missile turrets. |
Samantha Spoor
Teknomen
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Posted - 2013.02.12 11:35:00 -
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Tid bit on military training:
Move and shoot
Move and reload
Move and throw a grenade is not standard but I'm sure it's trained to somewhere
Notice I said move and not sprint. Sprinting is used only when you have no cover or trying to cover ground. If it's to cover ground it's used with covering fire since you can't aim while sprinting with any reliability. Military is trained to fight behind cover or concealment to help supplement their body armor. Stuff you see of duel wielding guns, shooting from the hip, and the like are movie stuff. I'm not saying people don't do it or that it's impossible I'm just saying it pretty much never happens in combat. Plus people suck at hitting in combat even if they are looking down the sights.
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1ANONLYRIDER
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.13 01:37:00 -
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like dude said even if the granade button disabled sprinting when clicked it would be a much better improvement to the whole battle mechanics of the game (( WAS NOT TRYING TO RUFFLE FEATHERS ON EVERYBODY )) was just asking for better granade button mechanics and timeing |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
384
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Posted - 2013.02.13 01:47:00 -
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1) Learn to spell and use punctuation, you posts make my eyes want to bleed.
2)grenade's are fine as they are, although having throwing a grenade cancel out sprint does make sense to me. |
Atikali Havendoorr
HERBGROWERS
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Posted - 2013.02.13 02:59:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:...
At the very least grenades should cancel running, I hate having to stop completely before I can throw a grenade. The fact that it interferes with gameplay is more important than whatever "realism" excuse people bring up.
This. I-Śm fine with not being able to throw a grenade while sprinting, but I should not have to stop to throw a grenade. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Smash Bros
Friends United Seeking Influence and Notoriety
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Posted - 2013.02.13 06:25:00 -
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Yep plus sprint and reload |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:12:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Yep plus sprint and reload
No, definitely not sprint and reload! Like I said before - you can not do anything else whilst running at your fastest possible speed.
And okay, I hadn't realised that trying to throw a grenade whilst sprinting not only stops the sprint but stops you period - if this is so, then that does need fixing. Finally we agree ;) |
1ANONLYRIDER
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.14 12:55:00 -
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:) a good nice debate with an agreed end :) |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
384
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Posted - 2013.02.14 17:47:00 -
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Dude, punctuation! Use it. |
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1ANONLYRIDER
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.17 11:07:00 -
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HATER |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2013.02.17 11:59:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:I you can still throw it whilst moving at around 5m/s, which for most people is pretty quick running.
5m/s is normal walking
6m/s is "brisk walking" and what is expected of any soldier, in basic gear. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2013.02.17 14:30:00 -
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I don't know about ppl using controllers but im pretty sure i can sprint while cooking a grenade, might have to slow down to throw it not sure haven't really thought about it before. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.17 15:41:00 -
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yes I do hate your lack of punctuation and abuse of the cap's key |
xXl DeathDealer lXx
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.02.17 16:45:00 -
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1ANONLYRIDER wrote:Django Quik wrote:This is not a big problem at all. In fact I'd go as far as to say this is not a problem, period. You ever tried doing something with both hands when running at full sprint? You really think a person could be coordinated enough to holster their weapon, pull out a grenade, pull the pin and throw it with any degree of accuracy without slowing down at all?
Go on, try it. (probably with something other than a gun and grenade). Please report back how many times you fall over or smack into something because you weren't paying enough attention to where you were running. EVERY TROOP IN ARE US MILITARY CAN DO WHAT YOU SAID CANT BE DONE AND I REAL WAR YOU WOULD NEVER STOP LIKE THIS GAME DOES DUE TO SNIPERS I UNDERSTAND SLOWING DOWN BUT STOPING AFTER SPRINT TO WALK AN THROW COME ON REALLY ( I CAN CLICK THE GRANADE BUTTON 3 TIMES AFTER STOPING SPRINT BEFORE THE GRANADE WILL LAUNCH NOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SINCE AT ALL HECK NO IT DONT SAYING ARE US TROOPS CANT DO 3 THINGS AT ONCE ROFOL STFU
I have to agree as well. There is a real problem in this game with pressing buttons and the game doing what you pressed on the controller. I find that 90% of the time I will press a button to through a grenade or reload and the game do anything. It is as if it is not registering the fact that I pressed the button at all. Not good.  |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
203
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Posted - 2013.02.17 19:48:00 -
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Hilarious when people are convinced everyone in the military can do 'x' while sprinting. I have seen enough of these threads that it seems there are segments of the population that believe soldiers can sprint while doing back flips, throwing grenades and baking a cake. Ahem. Hypebole/sarcasm alert for those who have issues picking up on that.
In real life, as that was an argument, you could throw a grenade while sprinting. However, as mentioned, your accuracy would be atrocious. So, if it is permitted, accuracy should be severely affected.
And for the record, to the screaming all caps, no puncutation guy (who I refuse to quote), I was a U.S. Army Infantryman, and no, we can't all sprint (run, yes) and throw grenades -- the risk of dropping it, failing to throw the grenade on target, or tripping over uneven terrain is significant (tripping, with a live grenade, by the way = very bad).
Still, it's a game, but if you are going to argue that it can be done in real life, I clearly disagree. Carry on. Hopefully with punctuation and less caps. |
Zero Harpuia
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2013.02.17 20:53:00 -
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gbghg wrote:yes I do hate your lack of punctuation and abuse of the cap's key
That key cries at night... we should contact Input Protection Services.
On topic, being able to do anything while sprinting removes the reason sprinting exists in a video game; namely to sacrifice everything for a bit of speed. I'm going to say that actions like prepping a grenade, meleeing, reloading, etc. should cancel sprinting to basic running without having to stop, but you shouldn't be able to do them while sprinting. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2013.02.18 01:41:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Django Quik wrote:I you can still throw it whilst moving at around 5m/s, which for most people is pretty quick running. 5m/s is normal walking 6m/s is "brisk walking" and what is expected of any soldier, in basic gear.
I would love to be able to stroll along at 16.4 feet per second or even briskly stroll at 19.68 feet per second. If you can do this, you must have legs at least 9 feet long. LOL I think you're confusing meters with feet. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2013.02.18 01:57:00 -
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The idea behind sprinting is that your merc is putting every last bit of effort to move as fast as possible. Want to prove that reloading, shooting accurately, manipulating and throwing a grenade is possible while at a full sprint? Here's how you do it.
Make a video of yourself running at a full sprint for 60 feet over uneven terrain and note the time.
1. Take an airsoft magazine fed rifle. Carry it in hand, make that sprint, and note the time.
Now, with the weapon in hand, make the sprint and attempt to shoot your friend, who will shoot back from cover, change out the magazine, fire more shots, and note the time and the fact that you can't do it while at a full sprint.
2. Take an airsoft magazine fed rifle. Carry it in slung, make that sprint, and note the time.
Now, with the weapon in hand, make the sprint and attempt to sling the weapon, take the paint/airsoft grenade from your belt, or bandolier, pull the pin, and throw it accurately at your friend, who will shoot back from cover, and recover your weapon from slung, note the time and the fact that you can't do it while at a full sprint.
One can substitute any airsoft/paintball weapon with close to the same results. You find that at a full sprint over uneven terrain, you can't do any of what is being claimed as possible in this thread. |
1ANONLYRIDER
Valor Coalition
RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.02.20 08:40:00 -
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You were a failure as a US soldier if you could not SPRINT and throw a grenade with accuracy have you ever seen running shot put thouse guys take a 10 pound steel ball and SPRINT and huck that with such accuracy they could hit a dime at 70 yards give or take a few so you make no sense |
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:31:00 -
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1ANONLYRIDER wrote:You were a failure as a US soldier if you could not SPRINT and throw a grenade with accuracy have you ever seen running shot put thouse guys take a 10 pound steel ball and SPRINT and huck that with such accuracy they could hit a dime at 70 yards give or take a few so you make no sense
I saw them do it at a run. I did it at a run. But no-one I've ever known or seen could accomplish the fantasy you describe at a full on sprint without interrupting that sprint for the very short time it took to perform the action. |
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