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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:07:00 -
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Thanks everybody who voted for option #2 |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:08:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Thanks everybody who voted for option #2
You're welcome.
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:09:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Thanks everybody who voted for option #2 I voted for option #2 and i think it was a good choice. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:10:00 -
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Are you implying that there are currently matches that AREN'T pointless (regardless of whether you've hit the cap or not)? |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:18:00 -
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Why are you complaining? Yea, I know all you want to do is farm, so Ambush becomes your "only" option once you've capped, but every game you play after you cap gets you further and further ahead of those of us that simply can't, or don't, play nearly as often as you.
Entitled much? |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Why are you complaining? Yea, I know all you want to do is farm, so Ambush becomes your "only" option once you've capped, but every game you play after you cap gets you further and further ahead of those of us that simply can't, or don't, play nearly as often as you.
Entitled much?
I feel the way of the last question yes.
I do enjoy skirmish, but you do realize I can grind more sp in ambush matches in the time it takes to play 1 skirmish.
The soft cap hurts the skirmish game mode imo. Why even bother. |
GeneralButtNaked
Burnwall Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:29:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Why are you complaining? Yea, I know all you want to do is farm, so Ambush becomes your "only" option once you've capped, but every game you play after you cap gets you further and further ahead of those of us that simply can't, or don't, play nearly as often as you.
Entitled much?
I hit the cap, I just want all my WP to count.
Also, I prefer skirmish to Ambush.
It would be nice for my contributions in a match to be reflected in my SP. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:36:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Why are you complaining? Yea, I know all you want to do is farm, so Ambush becomes your "only" option once you've capped, but every game you play after you cap gets you further and further ahead of those of us that simply can't, or don't, play nearly as often as you.
Entitled much?
I don't understand why you care if I farm or not seeing as we'll probably never corp battle against each other, or you'll lose anyways. Players shouldn't be forced into ambush, because it's the most efficient use of their time in acquiring not only SP but ISK. |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:37:00 -
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Capture the Flag when CCP? I want to see LAV gun battles as one LAV chases down another to get that flag back. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:41:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:I don't understand why you care if I farm or not seeing as we'll probably never corp battle against each other, or you'll lose anyways. Players shouldn't be forced into ambush, because it's the most efficient use of their time in acquiring not only SP but ISK.
Because, as usual, you fail to see anything more than yourself. It's about the bigger picture, about keeping players fairly even in skill progression without overly punishing those who can't afford to enslave themselves to a game, while not overly rewarding the loyal gamer at the same time. This has nothing to do with me and you, it has to do with everyone who plays DUST. [So technically it is about us, but only a tiny little bit, especially you. You have no right to complain about anything related to SP >_<]
As far as I'm concerned, you should only get up to 500SP in Ambush (after cap, of course)
I'm just looking forward to this new SP system their touting, should be interesting. |
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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
241
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:44:00 -
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lol at Eve player logic. |
trollface dot jpg
Destined 4 Biomass
24
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Posted - 2013.02.10 04:45:00 -
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Imp's crying about not being incentivized to play skirmish when all they have played for months is ambush.
Wah wah waaaaaaaah~~~~~ |
Drako Alundi
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:04:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Why are you complaining? Yea, I know all you want to do is farm, so Ambush becomes your "only" option once you've capped, but every game you play after you cap gets you further and further ahead of those of us that simply can't, or don't, play nearly as often as you.
Entitled much? I don't understand why you care if I farm or not seeing as we'll probably never corp battle against each other, or you'll lose anyways. Players shouldn't be forced into ambush, because it's the most efficient use of their time in acquiring not only SP but ISK.
I'm just not going to bother going into much detail about the reason why option 2 is the only logical and fair choice because it is openly apparent to anyone with a modicum of understanding for new players of how extremely difficult it is for them, even after only 30 days since the wipe.
Don't you realise you're forcing yourself into ambush because of your approach to this game?
Why do you feel the need to show such disrespect to other players? You speak of efficiency as if this game were a job, a task, something that HAD to be done, not just at your leisure.
Is it really that boring for you guys playing this game? All you care about is stats, being on top and farming SP? I enjoy aspects of that to a degree (improving myself as a player and contributor to my corp) but we differ in one aspect; our motivations in playing the game. Like many Imps I assume your motivation is purely centred on your own progression and to prove yourself better than others, going through the motions like a CoD player desperately trying to get that next prestige.
Whereas, I find myself wanting to go on Dust more and more these days for the people I have come call my friends; my corp. In fact, and I know I'm starting to sound like a boring cliche here but our corp acts more like a family than a group of friends. A family that knows when to knuckle up mind you.
How about getting to know your corp mates, chat with them for 10, 15 minutes between matches, have a laugh; who knows, you might actually start having some fun.
Peace. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:10:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Thanks everybody who voted for option #2 Playing videogames is pointless too. What's your point? |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
441
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:12:00 -
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Drako Alundi wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Why are you complaining? Yea, I know all you want to do is farm, so Ambush becomes your "only" option once you've capped, but every game you play after you cap gets you further and further ahead of those of us that simply can't, or don't, play nearly as often as you.
Entitled much? I don't understand why you care if I farm or not seeing as we'll probably never corp battle against each other, or you'll lose anyways. Players shouldn't be forced into ambush, because it's the most efficient use of their time in acquiring not only SP but ISK. I'm just not going to bother going into much detail about the reason why option 2 is the only logical and fair choice because it is openly apparent to anyone with a modicum of understanding for new players of how extremely difficult it is for them, even after only 30 days since the wipe. Don't you realise you're forcing yourself into ambush because of your approach to this game? Why do you feel the need to show such disrespect to other players? You speak of efficiency as if this game were a job, a task, something that HAD to be done, not just at your leisure. Is it really that boring for you guys playing this game? All you care about is stats, being on top and farming SP? I enjoy aspects of that to a degree (improving myself as a player and contributor to my corp) but we differ in one aspect; our motivations in playing the game. Like many Imps I assume your motivation is purely centred on your own progression and to prove yourself better than others, going through the motions like a CoD player desperately trying to get that next prestige. Whereas, I find myself wanting to go on Dust more and more these days for the people I have come call my friends; my corp. In fact, and I know I'm starting to sound like a boring cliche here but our corp acts more like a family than a group of friends. A family that knows when to knuckle up mind you. How about getting to know your corp mates, chat with them for 10, 15 minutes between matches, have a laugh; who knows, you might actually start having some fun. Peace.
I got 1/4 through your post and decided -1 for QQ |
Warchild Zek
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:13:00 -
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Jeeze everyone jumped down your throat. This is beta, we are supposed to provide feedback. Equal rewards for equal time in different game modes is a pretty basic concept that all shooters Ive played try to achieve. Its an obvious flaw that should be pointed out. Why do skirmish players deserve less sp exactly? |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
175
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:17:00 -
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What. |
Mars El'Theran
Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:18:00 -
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You do know that you can hack objectives and play Logibro right? |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:24:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Why are you complaining? Yea, I know all you want to do is farm, so Ambush becomes your "only" option once you've capped, but every game you play after you cap gets you further and further ahead of those of us that simply can't, or don't, play nearly as often as you.
Entitled much? I don't understand why you care if I farm or not seeing as we'll probably never corp battle against each other, or you'll lose anyways. Players shouldn't be forced into ambush, because it's the most efficient use of their time in acquiring not only SP but ISK.
No one's forcing you to do or play anything. I've played this game every day and I still haven't hit the Cap, If all you care about is playing for more SP and ISK(Which you should have plenty of) Then yes, you are sounding like a spoiled child right now. Most of the community finds the new SP cap very reasonable and definitely better than it was before, it accommodates everyone who as "Other" things to do throughout the week. CCP can't make everybody happy but they will do their best to please the majority. If you do not enjoy Skirmish enough to play it without being rewarded or ISK, then why does it matter? Stop playing alltogether. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
441
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:34:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Why are you complaining? Yea, I know all you want to do is farm, so Ambush becomes your "only" option once you've capped, but every game you play after you cap gets you further and further ahead of those of us that simply can't, or don't, play nearly as often as you.
Entitled much? I don't understand why you care if I farm or not seeing as we'll probably never corp battle against each other, or you'll lose anyways. Players shouldn't be forced into ambush, because it's the most efficient use of their time in acquiring not only SP but ISK. No one's forcing you to do or play anything. I've played this game every day and I still haven't hit the Cap, If all you care about is playing for more SP and ISK(Which you should have plenty of) Then yes, you are sounding like a spoiled child right now. Most of the community finds the new SP cap very reasonable and definitely better than it was before, it accommodates everyone who as "Other" things to do throughout the week. CCP can't make everybody happy but they will do their best to please the majority. If you do not enjoy Skirmish enough to play it without being rewarded or ISK, then why does it matter? Stop playing alltogether.
You'd like if we stopped playing.
Stop the Jedi mind tricks. |
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Crimson Moon V
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:34:00 -
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Warchild Zek wrote: Jeeze everyone jumped down your throat. This is beta, we are supposed to provide feedback. Equal rewards for equal time in different game modes is a pretty basic concept that all shooters Ive played try to achieve. Its an obvious flaw that should be pointed out. Why do skirmish players deserve less sp exactly? Becuase this community is stupid and people thought it would be a good idea. There was a poll... Why force the dedicated players into mindless killing aka TDM with terrible spawns. We are punishing players who want to play skirmish after the cap. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:37:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:Warchild Zek wrote: Jeeze everyone jumped down your throat. This is beta, we are supposed to provide feedback. Equal rewards for equal time in different game modes is a pretty basic concept that all shooters Ive played try to achieve. Its an obvious flaw that should be pointed out. Why do skirmish players deserve less sp exactly? Becuase this community is stupid and people thought it would be a good idea. There was a poll... Why force the dedicated players into mindless killing aka TDM with terrible spawns. We are punishing players who want to play skirmish after the cap.
Should have been only open to the closed beta community as well as high active players, not the once a weekers. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:49:00 -
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I say we fix the people suddenly whining about Skirmish SP, and just cut the amount of SP you can earn in each ambush game after cap to 500.
1000 is still way too high for 10 minute games |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:53:00 -
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I don't know bout you... I like having fun.. So I play skirmish when I feel like it. It's not pointless. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
441
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I say we fix the people suddenly whining about Skirmish SP, and just cut the amount of SP you can earn in each ambush game after cap to 500.
1000 is still way too high for 10 minute games
That'd make you happy wouldn't it?
If your so worried about falling behind why are you spending your time trolling the forums and not earning sp? |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.02.10 06:55:00 -
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Kind of interesting when you look at the big picture.
People say why bother with skirmish after the cap because they can grind more SP from ambush... but has anybody analyzed that statement? Is the entire point of this game to grind SP? Is that the ONLY reason many of us play? If so, why are we so focused on it? Is it to level up our gear so we can have more fun in the end? Or is it simply a mountain top we relentlessly want to climb just because it's there?
I dunno, I am starting to think 100% passive SP is the only way to go for a game like this. That way players can focus on having fun, honing their skills, and getting as much ISK as possible to pay for our fancy suits so we can do crazy stuff in matches and enjoy ourselves. Rather than having the obligation to log on every day or so just to grind grind grind SP so we don't fall behind.
I think no matter what SP earning system they use, it will always feel like a job and something we do so we can hit that cap and log off. Because when you look at the big picture and wonder why people play, having fun should be #1, but it most certainly is not the norm in Dust. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
441
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Posted - 2013.02.10 07:01:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Kind of interesting when you look at the big picture.
People say why bother with skirmish after the cap because they can grind more SP from ambush... but has anybody analyzed that statement? Is the entire point of this game to grind SP? Is that the ONLY reason many of us play? If so, why are we so focused on it? Is it to level up our gear so we can have more fun in the end? Or is it simply a mountain top we relentlessly want to climb just because it's there?
I dunno, I am starting to think 100% passive SP is the only way to go for a game like this. That way players can focus on having fun, honing their skills, and getting as much ISK as possible to pay for our fancy suits so we can do crazy stuff in matches and enjoy ourselves. Rather than having the obligation to log on every day or so just to grind grind grind SP so we don't fall behind.
I think no matter what SP earning system they use, it will always feel like a job and something we do so we can hit that cap and log off. Because when you look at the big picture and wonder why people play, having fun should be #1, but it most certainly is not the norm in Dust.
Well until there are better match and game mode developments the only real thing to do is grind SP imo. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.10 07:05:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Kind of interesting when you look at the big picture.
People say why bother with skirmish after the cap because they can grind more SP from ambush... but has anybody analyzed that statement? Is the entire point of this game to grind SP? Is that the ONLY reason many of us play? If so, why are we so focused on it? Is it to level up our gear so we can have more fun in the end? Or is it simply a mountain top we relentlessly want to climb just because it's there?
I dunno, I am starting to think 100% passive SP is the only way to go for a game like this. That way players can focus on having fun, honing their skills, and getting as much ISK as possible to pay for our fancy suits so we can do crazy stuff in matches and enjoy ourselves. Rather than having the obligation to log on every day or so just to grind grind grind SP so we don't fall behind.
I think no matter what SP earning system they use, it will always feel like a job and something we do so we can hit that cap and log off. Because when you look at the big picture and wonder why people play, having fun should be #1, but it most certainly is not the norm in Dust.
Well considering the general population on this game is a bunch of sissy ass CareBears afraid to lose corpbattles Hellstorm among many others. The only thing to really do is grind out SP. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2013.02.10 07:08:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I say we fix the people suddenly whining about Skirmish SP, and just cut the amount of SP you can earn in each ambush game after cap to 500.
1000 is still way too high for 10 minute games That'd make you happy wouldn't it? If you're so worried about falling behind why are you spending your time trolling the forums and not earning sp?
And once more, the Imperfects fail to see that I'm not campaigning on my own personal behalf. I don't care about SP for myself, I frequently fail to hit the cap, yet still trash a good number of players in this game. I'm simply concerned with the overall growth of this game, since it's designed to span years into the future and be constantly growing and evolving. So, sorry for standing by my belief that a slow and steady rate of progression for SP is the way to go, because it promotes equality while still allowing those with actual skill to shine.
The simple problem is that people these days feel they have to be rewarded for taking a freaking dump. Not everything is a contest. Not everyone cares. You're plenty rewarded as is, quit trying to inflate your egos, very few of us want to get covered in your mess when you finally pop. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
326
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Posted - 2013.02.10 07:08:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:
You'd like if we stopped playing.
Stop the Jedi mind tricks.
You are a troublesome one, you are. |
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