I now embrace you and call you brother. Let no vehicle driver feel safe.

DEATH TO ALL TANKS! DESTROY ALL DERPSHIPS! PILE THE LAV CORPSES AS OUR SACRIFICE TO THE GODS OF BATTLE!

Actually you can still use milita AV to kill any tank atm, ive killed Gunlogis and Mauraders no problem on my own against decent tankers and its cheap and easy to do

You're complaining because they don't have to spend as much to counter you, as you spend to counter the other 90% of the playerbase?

Considering tanks are only weak to heavy and av, yet counter EVERYONE else...

I think Tanks aren't expensive enough.

Personally - I like where it is.

And militia MUST have av. If it weren't there, tanks would be 100% pub stomp. You want this game to be a ghost town? Keep touting your elitist ideas.

i was having fun for that first week while all the tankers where still skilling up to get their tanks.

now i can't even have a gunfight anymore?

i didn't wanna be an AV guy but whatever, you all forced this upon me. consider your tank a GIANT target that you're drawing all around yourself. because that's how i see you all now.

really, in my eyes you're at the same level as a redline sniper. you're looking for a way to invincibly farm kills, and i'm sick of it.


actually, you know what. on second thought thank you. i destroyed 6 tanks yesterday (including one guy who ended up 35/2. both of those 2, me. so don't get the idea that it's easy), and it was amazing. my raw hatred for you all is an itch that is oh so satisfying to scratch. burn! all of you burn!

"Rage, rage, rage. I'm not raging, but rage, rage rage."

I love you guys.

Take out one of my LOLTanks (I have a couple of different variants), I can probably afford a replacement from the earnings I got in the match.

Take out one of my GOOD tanks, and it'll take me 2 - 3 matches to replace.

Take out a Prototype tank, and that's a good day's work down the drain.

Take out a decently-fitted Forge Gunner with your tank - just one - and he's probably lost more than it cost me to replace my LOLTank. Which, for the record, has over 5000EHP for under 200,000 ISK.

I'm not sure what the problem is here. Tanks are awesome. AV is designed to counter them, but if you're GOOD with your Tank, it requires skill on the enemy's part to actually kill you. They're more likely to put you out of action WITHOUT killing you than they are to actually blow you up... unless they're using those "squad tactics" you want them to, or you screw up.

In one of my LOLTanks, I always know why I died. If I'm killed solo, it's a mid-high tier Forge Gunner, or I got outplayed. Sometimes by a skilled player hitting me from an unexpected direction and sometimes because I made a stupid mistake or pushed my luck going out in the open without support. Other than those scenarios, I don't die to a solo AV player, even when running Militia gear.

Tanks shouldn't be an "I win" button. They should be a credible threat, but a beatable one. And right now, that's exactly what they are. Except Missile tanks. They need their weapons fixed up a little after the nerf (although I haven't played in a few days, so maybe that already happened?).

I have removed a few troll posts from this thread.

banning corp mates for low level trolling, jerk....

Go play cod if you want to act like a child.

I like how things are at the moment

people quote all these sp and isk relation to AV and tanks but at the end of the day it depends on who is using it

i run an advanced swarm and militia tanks i can take out easily as long as i dont stand in the open, otherwise the tank will shrewd me.

the same way that the advanced tanks where i struggle on my own, some of the pilots are idiots and goes down easy

False, scrubs puck up AV militia fits and shoot you from halfway across the map dipping in and out of cover, cant touch them but lock on range allows them to be assholes. The isk relation is a very real arguement. 0 destroys a 1mil investment. 0 sp destroys 1.6 mil sp investments. Complete and utter bullshit.

M1 abrams comes back after a battle gets hit with 72 RPGs needs its sights refitted, goes back into battle.

Madruger gets hit with three swarm launchers has to limp back and pray the fourth doesnt come.

This is why you make specializations. AV is a bit much, you get more bang for your buck. Yes you can kill 20+ players if nodda damn one pulls out a swarm from across the map.

False, scrubs puck up AV militia fits and shoot you from halfway across the map dipping in and out of cover, cant touch them but lock on range allows them to be assholes. The isk relation is a very real arguement. 0 destroys a 1mil investment. 0 sp destroys 1.6 mil sp investments. Complete and utter bullshit.

M1 abrams comes back after a battle gets hit with 72 RPGs needs its sights refitted, goes back into battle.

Madruger gets hit with three swarm launchers has to limp back and pray the fourth doesnt come.

This is why you make specializations. AV is a bit much, you get more bang for your buck. Yes you can kill 20+ players if nodda damn one pulls out a swarm from across the map.

Well in RL military (and I know this aint RL). But are bazookas more expensive than tanks? If not I guess it makes sense here.

Doesn't driving take more time and skill to train in than does holding an RPG??

:P


My input...Stop complaining and play. This is a TEAM orientated game. If you got killed by AV infantry...where was your team?

And if you can't afford it don't used it.

False, scrubs puck up AV militia fits and shoot you from halfway across the map dipping in and out of cover, cant touch them but lock on range allows them to be assholes. The isk relation is a very real arguement. 0 destroys a 1mil investment. 0 sp destroys 1.6 mil sp investments. Complete and utter bullshit.

M1 abrams comes back after a battle gets hit with 72 RPGs needs its sights refitted, goes back into battle.

Madruger gets hit with three swarm launchers has to limp back and pray the fourth doesnt come.

This is why you make specializations. AV is a bit much, you get more bang for your buck. Yes you can kill 20+ players if nodda damn one pulls out a swarm from across the map.

Militia swarms and forge guns need to be removed or nerfed TBH.

Anything militia that can OHK should be removed in my opinion.

After reading through this thread I find it funny that a lot of tank drivers demand that it take teamwork to take down their tank, yet they want to run solo through the battlefield and decimate all infantry. If you expect the other team to use teamwork to take down your precious tank, then you must use teamwork to keep your tank alive. Right now the balance between vehicles and AV is the best it has been in this beta.