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Lonnar
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.02.05 20:41:00 -
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I know it's been said before but I figure I'd say it again. Something seriously needs to be done about the spawn points in some of these maps. Spawning right in the middle of three redberries ain't exactly a fun thing. And at least on my part, I feel kinda bad when I stumble on someone who just spawned and I shoot them down. |
suzisage
Mercenaries on Demand
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Posted - 2013.02.06 01:22:00 -
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This needs to be addressed.
Will post in this topic everyday as a reminder. |
Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
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Posted - 2013.02.06 19:19:00 -
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Something really needs to be done about this. It seems to be really bad right at the beginning of the match. Instead of teams spawning at different ends of the map both teams are all mixed together in different areas.
I spawn close to enemies regularly, and vise versa. There have been multiple occasions where I spawned within melee range! |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.02.06 19:27:00 -
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suzisage wrote:This needs to be addressed.
Will post in this topic everyday as a reminder. Ah! Our own little spammer. How cute.
Bigger posts than this have been posted about this topic. Oddly enough, it has improved. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.02.06 20:54:00 -
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Play Skirmish instead of TDM and or use drop uplinks. |
suzisage
Mercenaries on Demand
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Posted - 2013.02.07 03:20:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:suzisage wrote:This needs to be addressed.
Will post in this topic everyday as a reminder. Ah! Our own little spammer. How cute. Bigger posts than this have been posted about this topic. Oddly enough, it has improved.
This is the most recent thread I could find on the matter of spawn points. If I was truely a spammer, wouldn't I be creating a new thread every day? Instead posting in this thread everyday, where other people with similar feedback can post and keep everything nice and orderly?
BMSTUBBY wrote:Play Skirmish instead of TDM and or use drop uplinks.
I only play Skirmish when I have a squad that works together. I tried using uplinks before, and I don't like the fact that there is no way to deactivate them without spawning in and that enemies will camp an uplink.
Anyway...
This needs to be addressed.
Will post in this thread everyday as a reminder. |
Ted Cougarjuice
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.02.07 03:55:00 -
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I agree that this needs to be addressed.
In Battlefield 3, freshly-spawned players have momentary invincibility, for a second or two or until they begin to move and shoot. It can be infuriating to get dropped by someone who spawns in on an enemy you're killing only to have the new person absorb your clip and mow you down. However, in Dust you can't spawn to players- so having a moment to get your bearings and realize you're being spawn camped would be an easy semi-fix to the spawn issue. |
Lonnar
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.02.07 04:11:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Play Skirmish instead of TDM and or use drop uplinks.
Drop uplinks will not solve the start of battle issue ... get with it |
Ted Cougarjuice
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.02.07 04:18:00 -
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Lonnar wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:Play Skirmish instead of TDM and or use drop uplinks. Drop uplinks will not solve the start of battle issue ... get with it
I've camped Drop Uplinks in Ambush. I'm ashamed to admit it, but you're right, Lonnar. |
Lonnar
Doomheim
7
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Posted - 2013.02.07 05:59:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:suzisage wrote:This needs to be addressed.
Will post in this topic everyday as a reminder. Ah! Our own little spammer. How cute. Bigger posts than this have been posted about this topic. Oddly enough, it has improved.
I'm not saying it HASN'T improved. I'm stating that it still needs to be improved. I also know the Devs have recognized this problem, and have also made it a point to work on it. I just felt I'd add my voice (again) to bring light to this problem. |
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Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
21
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Posted - 2013.02.07 14:21:00 -
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Ted Cougarjuice wrote:Lonnar wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:Play Skirmish instead of TDM and or use drop uplinks. Drop uplinks will not solve the start of battle issue ... get with it I've camped Drop Uplinks in Ambush. I'm ashamed to admit it, but you're right, Lonnar.
I've done it too, and had it done to me as well. It's a problem that needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.
This is a major issue for me and it's only going to become more important as the game gets more players. Think about it, more people playing equals more spawn camping which will lead to people getting frustrated and quitting the game.
Dropping into the game with 100,000isk worth of gear on you and getting lit up before you can even take a single step is pretty annoying. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
67
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:18:00 -
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I've posted about this numerous times, but I'm going to continue doing so until it gets fixed. The spawning system (mostly in ambush) is by far the worst I've ever seen in a shooter. It's a major problem, and will only get worst as our fittings get more expensive.
Just as an example, I was about halfway through a match yesterday and randomly spawned on the other side of the map from my team in front of two enemy heavies. Needless to say I died. Then, I got respawned in exactly the same spot, and was instantly murdered again.
It's not even just getting spawned next to reds. I also get placed in wide open areas of the map, with not cover to at least attempt to get to. Or I'll spawn on top of one of those point rocks, perfectly placed for any sniper, or even anyone somewhat close to me. It's ridiculous and completely inexcusable if it makes it to the official launch. |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
63
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Posted - 2013.02.07 15:21:00 -
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Look in today's weekly update. It updates every Thursday anyways their going to work on the ambush spawns.
Close this thread. It's pointless after today. |
Lonnar
Doomheim
7
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Posted - 2013.02.07 17:52:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Look in today's weekly update. It updates every Thursday anyways their going to work on the ambush spawns.
Close this thread. It's pointless after today.
I got no power to close the thread ... but I guess we'll see where the spawn fix goes. Still ... the future is looking bright for both EVE and DUST ... We just gotta wait it out and ride the waves until everything in this grand puzzle fits together nicely |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.02.07 18:03:00 -
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Rendiff Jurr wrote:Ted Cougarjuice wrote:Lonnar wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:Play Skirmish instead of TDM and or use drop uplinks. Drop uplinks will not solve the start of battle issue ... get with it I've camped Drop Uplinks in Ambush. I'm ashamed to admit it, but you're right, Lonnar. I've done it too, and had it done to me as well. It's a problem that needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. This is a major issue for me and it's only going to become more important as the game gets more players. Think about it, more people playing equals more spawn camping which will lead to people getting frustrated and quitting the game. Dropping into the game with 100,000isk worth of gear on you and getting lit up before you can even take a single step is pretty annoying.
Play Skirmish instead of TDM then.
BTW Drop up-link camping can be countered by moving the location of the up-link once it gets found.
I like finding guys like you all that are camping my up-link and counter camping the up-link campers.
Like a moth to bright lights.
Oh and stop dropping in with 100,000 ISK suits. |
Ted Cougarjuice
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.02.07 20:44:00 -
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Well, unlike most campers, I don't outstay my welcome.
It's a technique you need to be a good sniper:
Once your enemy knows where you are, be somewhere else. |
Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
21
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:15:00 -
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Last night was playing Ambush and I spawned next to an enemy controlled supply depot with 4 guys standing around it. I was melted before I even had a chance to take a single step. |
Jack Sharkey42
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:28:00 -
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It's happened to me too, but I'm sure they're gonna work on fixing it. That being said, don't lie, you totally mow down people that spawn right next to you ;P |
mott royon
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1
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Posted - 2013.02.08 16:43:00 -
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This problem has been going on for a while. Today I joined a ambush game already in progress and before I even took a step, I was mowed down by a heavy. I usually think its just a one time thing and I'll spawn near my team the next time. But no, I ended up spawning in the same spot three times and getting destroyed by the heavy. I just gave up and left the match. Its not worth getting my gear blown apart again and again. Its even worse when you have a sniper and spawn in the middle of everyone with no cover. I even feel bad when I kill someone before they even have a chance to move. This has to be addressed at some point. |
MileHighChronic
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:08:00 -
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Yes would LOVE to see the spawning fixed. sometime's i get the upper hand with a red in front but sometime's.. i literally spawn with 5-6 enemies around me in EVERY direction so it's basically an immediate death unless somehow i become superman and fly out of there which isn't going to happen. |
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Qubot Sendai
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.08 17:13:00 -
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it's worth noting that one must look at the map, assess the situation, select the best available spawn point.
just hitting X without thinking or merely selecting 'default' can lead to the same situation discussed here. you dont have to get right back into it either. let it cool down for 10 seconds. maybe the enemy will have moved away by then and you can drop in safely...
obviously, if your team mates are worth crap, you're dead no matter where you land ... |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
67
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:20:00 -
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Qubot Sendai wrote:it's worth noting that one must look at the map, assess the situation, select the best available spawn point.
just hitting X without thinking or merely selecting 'default' can lead to the same situation discussed here. you dont have to get right back into it either. let it cool down for 10 seconds. maybe the enemy will have moved away by then and you can drop in safely...
obviously, if your team mates are worth crap, you're dead no matter where you land ...
But the issue is that most of the time (in ambush) you don't have a choice, and "default" is the only spawn option. Even if you happen to have a CRU, they often get overrun/camped, in which case you have to again select default and run the risk of spawning near reds. From what I can gather, default spawning in ambush is almost completely random, so waiting to respawn won't really help.
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suzisage
Mercenaries on Demand
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Posted - 2013.02.09 22:47:00 -
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This needs to be addressed.
Will post in thread every day as a reminder. |
Rendiff Jurr
Black Omega Industrial
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Posted - 2013.02.10 05:01:00 -
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Qubot Sendai wrote:it's worth noting that one must look at the map, assess the situation, select the best available spawn point.
just hitting X without thinking or merely selecting 'default' can lead to the same situation discussed here. you dont have to get right back into it either. let it cool down for 10 seconds. maybe the enemy will have moved away by then and you can drop in safely...
obviously, if your team mates are worth crap, you're dead no matter where you land ...
Nine times out of Ten when you're playing ambush default is your only option. The only only way to use a drop uplink is if someone on the team happens to drop on and it doesn't get taken out. |
suzisage
Mercenaries on Demand
18
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Posted - 2013.02.11 01:27:00 -
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This needs to be addressed.
Will post in thread every day as a reminder. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:18:00 -
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suzisage wrote:This needs to be addressed.
Will post in thread every day as a reminder.
You missed posting on the 10th and make sure to post today because it still is not fixed. |
The-Last-Ninja
FIND CARL CORP
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Posted - 2013.02.12 17:34:00 -
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Qubot Sendai wrote:it's worth noting that one must look at the map, assess the situation, select the best available spawn point.
just hitting X without thinking or merely selecting 'default' can lead to the same situation discussed here. you dont have to get right back into it either. let it cool down for 10 seconds. maybe the enemy will have moved away by then and you can drop in safely...
obviously, if your team mates are worth crap, you're dead no matter where you land ...
It's worth noting that the map doesn't automatically highlight every enemy before you spawn.
Good luck assessing how many people are camping a CRU without spawning into death first.
Drop uplinks are deathtraps. Plenty of free kills to be had from them.
Then there's Ambush spawns. Gotta love the default spawns that place you right in front of 3 opfor. How about when a Heavy spawns behind you and tears you to shreds? Even better? Spawning in the middle of crossfire. |
Ivor Headache
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:26:00 -
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Amen.
If I may add to the list of Ambushs' joyous spawn examples, how about directly in front of a tank's main gun at point blank range? |
Snod Narb
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
0
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:27:00 -
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so as im playing ive noticed that in TDM i have selected where i want to spawn.....maybe test that theory out....ive been spawning behind entire teams and killed em all. sooooo, k.
edit. nvm i tested it out a few more times, its actually random. |
Terry Webber
Gothic Wars Consortium
35
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Posted - 2013.02.13 22:27:00 -
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Be patient, guys. CCP will fix this. |
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