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BetterHideGood
Galactic Alliance 514
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Posted - 2013.02.02 06:23:00 -
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Is it just me or did militia gear get REALLY powerful and items like the GEK seem almost worthless.... I could just be playing bad today but I have held a pretty steady (good game) record over the last few weeks... until yesterday... too many whiny 6th graders who want to be able to instantly compete on the battlefield...
I for one enjoy having to work to build a character up and it would suck to know all that work can get demolished in 3 bullets from a militia gear player who has only been playing for 3 days... |
BetterHideGood
Galactic Alliance 514
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Posted - 2013.02.02 06:28:00 -
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Just talked to a friend who says he is having better games after switching to militia gear...
Are you guys secretly giving the open beta guys a better shot so they don't all leave from the pounding they were getting? |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.02.02 06:37:00 -
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Nothing changed, you got moved up the match pool ladder |
Arron Rift
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.02 07:45:00 -
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it did seem like it was downloading a lot the last time I logged on... |
Spaceman-Rob
Galactic Alliance 514
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:54:00 -
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I'm not sure if suddenly I'm not shooting straight anymore but I agree, I finally upgraded to my Advanced suit and armour the other day, but kind of feel like it was a waste of skill points, The milita guys seemed to be a lot harder to kill, in fact I'm being killed quicker and more often by militia than any other suit. I was cutting them down like Swiss cheese before the update. |
Bigglesworth McQueen
On The Brink
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:58:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:I'm not sure if suddenly I'm not shooting straight anymore but I agree, I finally upgraded to my Advanced suit and armour the other day, but kind of feel like it was a waste of skill points, The milita guys seemed to be a lot harder to kill, in fact I'm being killed quicker and more often by militia than any other suit at the moment. I was cutting them down like Swiss cheese before the update.
With the added confidence from a new dropsuit, comes the extra bullets from an enemies weapon.
What I mean is, consciously or not, you could be playing recklessly because of your recent upgrade. Same logic when you don't play a game for ages because you suck at it, then first time back after months of neglect and you dominate. |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.04 19:58:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:I'm not sure if suddenly I'm not shooting straight anymore but I agree, I finally upgraded to my Advanced suit and armour the other day, but kind of feel like it was a waste of skill points, The milita guys seemed to be a lot harder to kill, in fact I'm being killed quicker and more often by militia than any other suit at the moment. I was cutting them down like Swiss cheese before the update.
That because you think your gear should kill more people, so you take more risks. |
Rynx Sinfar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
186
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:02:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Nothing changed, you got moved up the match pool ladder
Is that a thing? Because it would certainly explain seeing a lot more fancy gear. |
Crimson Moon V
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
187
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:02:00 -
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4447 wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:I'm not sure if suddenly I'm not shooting straight anymore but I agree, I finally upgraded to my Advanced suit and armour the other day, but kind of feel like it was a waste of skill points, The milita guys seemed to be a lot harder to kill, in fact I'm being killed quicker and more often by militia than any other suit at the moment. I was cutting them down like Swiss cheese before the update. That because you think your gear should kill more people, so you take more risks.
Better gear just helps you stay alive longer. If you want to kill people, get better weapons. If you are a good player then you are used to playing with low amounts of health in tight situations. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
175
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:04:00 -
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I think its psychological. I notice I play much better in cheap, cheap tanks than my more pricy ones.
I take stupid risks with expensive gear.
Its a habit Im learning to break. |
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Spaceman-Rob
Galactic Alliance 514
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Posted - 2013.02.04 20:24:00 -
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Nerf the milita  |
Robert Brady III
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:01:00 -
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You have to keep in mind that there are several people who have invested in the support skills rather than going straight to unlocking new gear. While they are in militia gear, they might be running with 25% more shields and armor, have longer range, and have tighter shot groups.
Also I am sure there are several skilled players who run around in strictly militia gear while playing alone. I will not use any dropsuit other than the standard "Enforcer" dropsuit unless I am in a corporate battle. This leads to a massive amount of profit because even if I play poorly for one game, I still have 200k in profit every time |
Spaceman-Rob
Galactic Alliance 514
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Posted - 2013.02.04 21:33:00 -
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Robert Brady III wrote:You have to keep in mind that there are several people who have invested in the support skills rather than going straight to unlocking new gear. While they are in militia gear, they might be running with 25% more shields and armor, have longer range, and have tighter shot groups.
Also I am sure there are several skilled players who run around in strictly militia gear while playing alone. I will not use any dropsuit other than the standard "Enforcer" dropsuit unless I am in a corporate battle. This leads to a massive amount of profit because even if I play poorly for one game, I still have 200k in profit every time
Interesting! And definitely something to take away and think about. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.02.04 22:31:00 -
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Quote:Also I am sure there are several skilled players who run around in strictly militia gear while playing alone. I will not use any dropsuit other than the standard "Enforcer" dropsuit unless I am in a corporate battle. This leads to a massive amount of profit because even if I play poorly for one game, I still have 200k in profit every time
I run the best suit i can afford for my skill level investment, but i don't die enough to ever loose money on a battle
(current suit 37k ISK) if i die 3 times, it was a very very bad match, usually 0 to 1 death and i still take way too many risks, its my play-style, if i play defense, i am not having any fun, if my shields are down 99% of the battle while surrounded by 5 opponents, i am having fun.
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Robert Brady III
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.05 02:51:00 -
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Now that I am back home, here is just an overview of some of the stats that a person going in the support skills will have. If the person has chosen to invest strictly into Weaponry V and Field Mechanics V (all probable at this point in the beta), his standard Militia Drop suit is running at 218.75 armor and 125 shields while using his basic assault rifle which will be dealing 34.1 damage per hit. There are several other thing to take into account such as magazine size, rate of fire, and accuracy, but for the sake of example I am just using the basic numbers. He gets this for a skill point investment of only 621,840. So his totals are 343.75 HP with 34.1 damage per hit.
On the other hand, if he chose to rush to the top end Duvolle Assault Rifle, while bypassing support skills he invests 621,840 just to unlock usage of the weapon. Assuming he has at least Weaponry II, his rifle is doing 35.464 damage per hit. That Duvolle isn't easy to fit either, at a cost of 90 CPU and 13 PG. SO he is going to want at least a decent suit to fit it. So he invests at least 198,000 SP for his Assault Type II. It has 225 shields and 115.5 armor, assuming Field Mechanics II. In this scenario he has a total HP of 340.5 and 35.464 damage per hit with a skill point investment of 896,580.
These scenarios leave out other facts such as fitting. skill level. what other skills could be invested into at this point, but you can at least get an idea of what you can get from investing in those side skills that don't necessarily get you noticed by using unique equipment, but you might be standing toe to toe with people in better dropsuits. The cost to field these is the final punch, militia is free. An Assault Type II with just a Duvolle is 63,000 ISK per lost suit. I am a big fan of fighting the ISK war, and I am sure other people play like I do. If I make your team loses millions of ISK in Dropsuits and Vehicles and I lose nothing, I win the game. |
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