5 tk's = boot. This worked well in warhawk.

Mercs it's time to HTFU!!

This is New Eden, it's a cold and brutal place VTK cannot happen in this world!! TKing is a mechanic we need to have, and the repercussions must come from the community not from people voting you out of the match!

EVE and Dust are 2 different games and in most cases you can't use things that work in EVE and expect them to work for dust.

They're not two different games. Dust is the ground side and Eve is the space side of the same game. They're just two different aspects. It's all one galaxy where the actions of players on either aspect can affect the New Eden universe in it's entirety. So... It's the same game.

Welcome to New Eden carebears.

One is an FPS and one is an RPG, my point is that some ways of doing things in one of them does not work for the other.

One is an FPS and one is an RPG, my point is that some ways of doing things in one of them does not work for the other.

....this system worked remarkably well- if you were that pissed off you could afford to kill one or 2 team mates per hour- which is not a huge incentive to go out and randomly kill blues but say one random guy pisses you off once per hour you have the leeway to kill one team mate per hour.

until I can run an entire match with my corporation friendly fire has no place in this game.

VTK would be fine if you only allow it after someone TK's someone else. You TK'd someone? Well, you're now eligible to be voted out. Don't want to be voted out? Be careful and don't kill your teammates.

Since we are allegedly getting friendly fire how do people feel about a VTK option.

NO! since it screws over poor newbies.

In case I was unclear about VTK:

HELL NO!!!!!

Automatic is better when a friendly kills a friendly then that blue dot gets AUTO kicked and NOT! player voted kicked.

As I said, just enable the option for kicking the player for the whole team once someone kills a team member. 3 votes need to be given by anyone in the team to kick anyone on the team who has TK'd someone. Make sure it's marked on the scoreboard any time someone kills a teammate so you know who to kick. Done, settled, finished.

This way we don't have indiscriminate kicking, we don't have players in a solo squad TKing for fun without being able to be kicked, and we don't have to worry about only one person in the team having the power to kick.

Simple as that.

Tech, please note my post earlier in this thread:


I think this would be more than agreeable for all parties involved.

Since we are allegedly getting friendly fire how do people feel about a VTK option.

Tech, please note my post earlier in this thread:


I think this would be more than agreeable for all parties involved.

Agreed
We can't use the EVE system because there is no CONCORD to police the players; you can't have NPCs running around in pubmatches in lowsec space shooting people that have a low sec rating (well I suppose you could but it would be pretty dumb lol)

So in that case why not make the community the policeing element? Everyone has a security rating that is a function of ones ratio of TKs to enemy kills or overall kills. This sec rating can be viewed on the char info card for anyone to see; in addition as ones sec rating drops the color of there chevron and there dot on the map changes, eventually becoming a glaringly different color that is easy to recognise once the sec rating has droped low enough. This way if a notorious TKer is in a match not only do they have to contend with the redberries but also everyone on there team that may just shoot on sight as if they were a red dot (there should be some kind of sliding scale were the lower the sec rating of the person you TK the less it will affect your own sec rating).
This kind of system would help to discourage wanton TKers but still leave the door open to corp betrayal. We are mercs dammit, if your corp takes a contract and then is offered allot of ISK from the opposing contractor to turn on the rest of the team mid match you should be able to do that with out fear of getting voted out of the scenario, you have to make the decision weather or not the ISK is worth the drop in sec rating.

Just my .02isk on the subject, but I am adamantly opposed to any kind of VTK or auto kick system in this game.

Recycling another old post from: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=350218#post350218

In reading all of these great ideas, I think maybe the teamkilling mechanic I was to see is this:

GÇóAny merc must be able to kill any other merc in any situation. That's New Eden.
GÇóFF-Team and FF-Squad kills on every merc's public record. Let the solution to team killers come from the community.
GÇóTeamkilling drops your security status, and eventually pushes you out to losec, then nullsec. What you have to do to grind it back up i don't care, so long as it is a grind.

^^^THIS^^^

All you people wanting VTK are forgetting the fact that this is New Eden and CCP we are talking about, NOT some game that hand-holds you all the time. Anyone who plays EVE would know this.

Also think about it this way:
An EVE pilot from one corp creates a Dust merc and joins a rival corp. Why? To TK "by accident", sabotage, and gather intel. If there was a VTK system this would become impossible and undermine one of the whole points of combining the two games.

As I said, just enable the option for kicking the player for the whole team once someone kills a team member. 3 votes need to be given by anyone in the team to kick anyone on the team who has TK'd someone. Make sure it's marked on the scoreboard any time someone kills a teammate so you know who to kick. Done, settled, finished.

This way we don't have indiscriminate kicking, we don't have players in a solo squad TKing for fun without being able to be kicked, and we don't have to worry about only one person in the team having the power to kick.

Simple as that.